Solved: Allemano's № 532 - Pat Hoare's Ferrari "Charlotte"

Allemano · December 07, 2010, 12:45:21 PM

Today I found this in a wrong folder and I remembered that it's shelved on my HD for years. Once I posted that very pic on another forum, but never got a definite name for it. At least I was told what it appearantly isn't...
So, I don't know what it is except of the make underneath, but for a point I need something reliable...

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Otto Puzzell · December 07, 2010, 03:50:08 PM

Vrooom!

Allemano · December 14, 2010, 03:12:42 AM

Vroooom to experts!

navara · January 04, 2011, 03:10:44 PM

American?

microcars · January 04, 2011, 03:14:06 PM

RHD Corvette of some kind?

Allemano · January 04, 2011, 03:22:47 PM

Not a Corvette of any kind.

Vincent Vell Vet · January 04, 2011, 04:28:55 PM

If the Chev at the right is any indication, it's a '66.
That is my gift to you, whoever has the knowlage to solve the rest!

She's a looker though, huh?
Allthough, is that a clear hood scoop?

!!!!! As if clear wasn't bad enough, the shape sucks too!

Allemano · January 04, 2011, 04:44:32 PM

No Chevy here. I show you a second pic: (I guess this car is not easy to enter...)

microcars · January 04, 2011, 04:57:35 PM

now that it is Black & White it appears to be a Jaguar XKE of some sort modified somewhat for The Thin Man

Allemano · January 04, 2011, 05:05:04 PM

Not a Jag!
As I've mentioned I have very few infos about this car. I have a make, a (nick)name and a (possible) country where it was built, resp. where the builder lived.

Allemano · January 07, 2011, 08:12:31 AM

Edit:

I now have all the infos!

What I want to know is:

The car's history with all significant details
what's under the hood
the name of the builder
the nickname of the car
~~who did the coachwork~~

Paul Jaray · January 07, 2011, 08:26:01 AM

I didn't realize it was that obscure...I hope my info are correct...

Allemano · January 07, 2011, 09:31:36 AM

@PJ: PM sent

Allemano · January 08, 2011, 04:59:46 AM

To the Pro's now

metalshapes · January 08, 2011, 05:00:51 AM

Pat Hoare's Ferrari.
NZ.

It started out as a '58 Dino 246 F1 Chassis # 0007.

Was modified by Ferrari with a V12 TR engine for Pat Hoare and renumbered as 0788F.

He raced it in Nz in '61 and '62.

In '65 it got the sportscar body, done by Mc Winnie's in NZ.

In '78 it went to Neil Corner in the UK, who had it restored back to original by Chrostwhaite & Gardner.

Allemano · January 08, 2011, 05:03:15 AM

Quote from: metalshapes on January 08, 2011, 05:00:51 AM
Pat Hoare's Ferrari.
NZ.

what should I do with that reply?

A lock for you.

metalshapes · January 08, 2011, 05:16:37 AM

Quote from: Allemano on January 08, 2011, 05:03:15 AM
Quote from: metalshapes on January 08, 2011, 05:00:51 AM
Pat Hoare's Ferrari.
NZ.
what should I do with that reply?
A lock for you.

I Edited the rest of the Info in...

Here is a pic of it in earlyer in its life.

metalshapes · January 08, 2011, 05:19:07 AM

Quote from: metalshapes on January 08, 2011, 05:16:37 AM
Quote from: Allemano on January 08, 2011, 05:03:15 AM
Quote from: metalshapes on January 08, 2011, 05:00:51 AM
Pat Hoare's Ferrari.
NZ.
what should I do with that reply?
A lock for you.

I Edited the rest of the Info in...

(Except for its nickname )

Here is a pic of it in earlyer in its life.

Allemano · January 08, 2011, 05:20:20 AM

Quote from: Allemano on January 07, 2011, 08:12:31 AM
Edit:

I now have all the infos!

What I want to know is:

The car's history with all significant details
what's under the hood
the name of the builder
the nickname of the car
~~who did the coachwork~~

Okay I already gave you a point..
And thanks for the pic!

I'll give another to the one who comes with the nickname it was given by one of its owners.

woodinsight · January 08, 2011, 05:50:23 AM

"Charlotte"?

Allemano · January 08, 2011, 05:58:19 AM

Quote from: woodinsight on January 08, 2011, 05:50:23 AM
"Charlotte"?

Yes!

A quite remarkable car:

jotage21 · January 08, 2011, 12:04:26 PM

In my opinion, this is a car that deserves live again, maybe with a recreation engine. Did someone knows what happens with the Charlotte body after the car restoration to its original F1 body?

metalshapes · January 08, 2011, 02:47:01 PM

Quote from: jotage21 on January 08, 2011, 12:04:26 PM
In my opinion, this is a car that deserves live again, maybe with a recreation engine. Did someone knows what happens with the Charlotte body after the car restoration to its original F1 body?

I agree.

That would be nice.

Lets hope they saved the body....

Vincent Vell Vet · January 08, 2011, 02:50:07 PM

Exactly. It would be a crime if this body was ever intently destroyed. It realy does deserve to live again like you say.

metalshapes · January 08, 2011, 03:06:17 PM

I think its kind of a shame that this cars rich history got erased like that...

Its early racing history was significant ( raced by Phil Hill, Wolfgang v. Trips, Olivier Gendebien, and Dan Gurney ), but it was modified for racing in NZ by the factory.

And Enzo knew about it in its Sportscar form, calling it the fastest Street Ferrari...

So if it had to loose its sportscar body at all, I would have chosen the 0788F version.

But its probably worth more as the 0007...

An accurate recreation of it as the sportscar would be nice, or if that is not possible, in the very least drop it over a '80s Ferrari 400 driveline.

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Solved: Allemano's № 532 - Pat Hoare's Ferrari "Charlotte"