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Started by Wendax, September 30, 2013, 04:17:44 PM

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Wendax

Quote from: Paul Jaray on November 24, 2013, 03:31:43 PM
#10: Trenkel Porsche Eigenbau?

As said before, I don't know. But when I look at the Trenkel-Porsche we had in a group puzzle before (http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=9143.msg69874#msg69874), I'd say it is a completely different car.

Paul Jaray

Sorry, I meant 8...it was #10 in that group puzzle!

Wendax

That choice doesn't convince me either, sorry.

grobmotorix

#5 should looks very much like Gottfried Vollmer in his 1950 VW Special, either at Solitude or Schauinsland-Rennen:

Wendax

Sorry, neither driver, car nor place is right.

Wendax


Allan L

No 12 looks very much like an Alta, possibly a 2 litre supercharged sports car rebuilt as an offset single-seater
Opinionated but sometimes wrong

Wendax

I need some kind of proof. The only thing I know is in which country this picture was taken (not UK).

pnegyesi

No5: Reichsbahn-VW which later became the Lok-Kollektiv Fahrzeug 1 VW
while
No10 is the Lok Kollektiv Fahrzeug No3 - those wheels are utterly recognisable

Allan L

Quote from: Allan L on December 23, 2013, 10:59:09 AM
No 12 looks very much like an Alta, possibly a 2 litre supercharged sports car rebuilt as an offset single-seater
I've got a photo of Alta 52S taken from much the same angle, and here (if it works) it is:
Opinionated but sometimes wrong

grobmotorix

You are right! I should have known, as I have several photos of this car on my HDD.

It shows Mr. Cormack on Alta (1496 ccm), starting no. 98 at the 1935 Großglocknerrennen:

nicanary

I've just checked Georgano's Motorsport tome - it was the first Alta single-seater, made in 1935 for A.J.Cormack in this offset style. 1486cc with chain-driven camshafts. I'm not surprised it was being used for a hillclimb - the engines would never last long enough for the road races of those days.
I must be right - that's what it says on Wikipedia

Allan L

We had a long thread about Altas a few years ago in another place:
http://forums.autosport.com/topic/63762-alta-racers/

Because that site doesn't host photos many of the illustations are no longer visible but there's a rear view of this car which I can't link here.
There is a little about 52S confirming it was delivered to A.J. Cormack in July 1935, it was in New Zealand 1953-1980s and was in the USofA when last seen I think.
Opinionated but sometimes wrong

grobmotorix


Wendax

Quote from: pnegyesi on July 12, 2014, 02:00:45 AM
No5: Reichsbahn-VW which later became the Lok-Kollektiv Fahrzeug 1 VW
No, I have another name, and the driver/builder wasn't from Eastern Germany.

Wendax

Quote from: pnegyesi on July 12, 2014, 02:00:45 AM
No10 is the Lok Kollektiv Fahrzeug No3 - those wheels are utterly recognisable
That may be right. Do you have any proof?

Wendax

Quote from: Allan L on July 12, 2014, 03:56:36 AM
I've got a photo of Alta 52S taken from much the same angle, and here (if it works) it is:

Quote from: grobmotorix on July 12, 2014, 05:29:49 AM
It shows Mr. Cormack on Alta (1496 ccm), starting no. 98 at the 1935 Großglocknerrennen:

That is convincing me. All I knew was that the picture was taken in Austria. So it is one point each for Allan L and grobmotorix for identifying car and driver. Guys, you are great.

Here are the two pictures I have from that race:

grobmotorix

Nice photos!

I´ve retouched them a bit to thank you for a point I did not really expect:

Wendax

Another view on #7:

Wendax

This puzzle of unknown race cars has been resting on the Pros and Feature Writers board much too long. So open for all.

Wendax


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grobmotorix