Puzzle #141 - Solved! Rollston Duesenberg JN

Otto Puzzell · December 19, 2006, 03:37:06 AM

Know what it is?

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MG · December 19, 2006, 11:28:39 AM

The red paint in the center of the wheel nut was a Packard trademark.

The overall ARROGANCE of the design reminds me of Charles DeGaulle, he with the schnozzola big enough to blot out the sun. ;D

It could also be a Deusenberg. Whatever it is, it clearly has a straight something engine - Straight 12, perhaps?

With so many perhaps and maybes in the above, KU will have little problem without revealing a damn thing.

So, we KNOW it is bigger than a breadbox. It IS American, no?

Otto Puzzell · December 19, 2006, 11:57:00 AM

Yes!

MG · December 19, 2006, 02:48:45 PM

Is it a Packard? ???

Otto Puzzell · December 19, 2006, 02:57:45 PM

Not a Packard

MG · December 19, 2006, 03:28:40 PM

OK. My second choice is Deusenberg.

Otto Puzzell · December 19, 2006, 03:42:04 PM

Can you be more specific?

cheater · December 19, 2006, 04:23:42 PM

1937 Duesenberg JN Berline by Rollston

For Duesey, it's a pretty ugly car from the front . . .

MG · December 19, 2006, 05:25:44 PM

a pretty ugly car from the front . .

Well, I dunno. It has a certain DISDAINFUL presence that is appealing - in an ugly sort of way. ;D

Can I get half credit here? I really need to beat Rich to 5. Its a matter of personal honor. :P .

cheater · December 19, 2006, 07:58:07 PM

MG,

If you had spelled Duesenberg correctly, I'd be on your side for half-credit, but since you didn't . . . :D

MG · December 19, 2006, 08:22:41 PM

Whoa! THAT is COLD! :o

So...the rule is "e "before"u" except after "d"? As a language convention, THAT is a doozy! ;D

cheater · December 19, 2006, 09:29:18 PM

Yeah, it WAS pretty cold, but I bet you won't wrong ever again! :lmao:

Just remember, Doozey starts with "dues" . . . with proper names, you can toss the "conventions" out the window.

MG · December 19, 2006, 09:52:40 PM

but I bet you won't wrong ever again!

You can say THAT again twice! ;D

Otto Puzzell · December 20, 2006, 02:54:25 AM

Quote from: cheater on December 19, 2006, 04:23:42 PM
1937 Duesenberg JN Berline by Rollston

For Duesey, it's a pretty ugly car from the front . . .

Yes, and yes!

MG · December 20, 2006, 07:07:16 AM

Hey, cheater! Here's a thought. Why don't I just toss YOU out the window?!?!? :hah:

Besides, it is intuitively obvious to the most casual observer that this car was the inspiration for the original Grand Am. :yuck: So there.

porridgehead · December 20, 2006, 08:27:43 AM

The hell with the nose, lookit the size of that horn!

MG · December 20, 2006, 12:50:49 PM

You are absolutely right, P-Brain.

THAT is a HORN!!!! ;D

Otto Puzzell · December 21, 2006, 12:19:48 PM

But it looks like a towel rack.

Tifosi · December 21, 2006, 10:13:17 PM

For some reason, maybe the huge headlights, it looks like something Brooks Stevens might have been involved with. Was he?

Dan

cheater · December 21, 2006, 11:53:19 PM

Tifosi, those are the standard Duesenberg headlamps, though mounted lower on this than on most Dueseys.

I actually got to meet Brooks through a common friend some years back and ran the slide projector for him at a lecture he gave locally. I'm not certain he would have been pleased by your comment! :o

Tifosi · December 22, 2006, 03:04:22 PM

Quote from: cheater on December 21, 2006, 11:53:19 PM
Tifosi, those are the standard Duesenberg headlamps, though mounted lower on this than on most Dueseys.

I actually got to meet Brooks through a common friend some years back and ran the slide projector for him at a lecture he gave locally. I'm not certain he would have been pleased by your comment! :o

I didn't mean any disrespect to Mr. Stevens. I have seen several of his sketches, specifically the Jeep Wagoneer and Gaylord, which features rather large, prominent headlamps. I noticed a similarity, and just wondered. Sometimes, excellent designs are compromised by events beyond the control of the designer, and I thought maybe this was the case here. I can see now that those are indeed stock Deusenberg headlamps.

Dan

cheater · December 22, 2006, 04:39:22 PM

Dan, I was just kidding and meant no offense.

Brooks had very strong opinions about design (as do almost all designers,actually) and I was simply suggesting that he had IMO a little better sense of style than is exhibited by that Rollston berline. At least, most of the cars I know him to have done seemed to . . .

Wonder who did design the front end of that vehicle? Anyone know? My best Duesey references are boxed up.

Otto Puzzell · December 23, 2006, 03:08:29 AM

Old Brooks was known to let fly with a 'challenging' schnoz from time to time. Witness not just the Weinermobile, but the Die Valkyrie, for instance. ;)

The beluga-like protuberance on the Duesenberg was not designed or built by Rollston. It was a Rollston-bodied car that was modified by its Chicago, Illinois owner, Stephen Junkunc III, in 1937.

Tifosi · December 23, 2006, 11:14:36 AM

Yeah, the Die Valkyrie was a rather odd looking car, classic, but odd...the Scimitar was much better, IMO.

Dan

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Puzzle #141 - Solved! Rollston Duesenberg JN