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Title: A 50s racer from Allan L: Peter Collins in Maserati 2509 at Aintree in 1955
Post by: Allan L on November 22, 2007, 12:33:33 PM: Make and model of the car please and name of the driver if you are well informed, and the date/venue/event if you really know a lot!
Title: Re: A 50s racer from Allan L
Post by: Allan L on November 30, 2007, 04:38:57 PM: OK experts, it's all yours
Title: Re: A 50s racer from Allan L
Post by: grobmotorix on November 30, 2007, 06:03:42 PM: BRM?
Title: Re: A 50s racer from Allan L
Post by: Allan L on December 01, 2007, 03:49:30 AM: Not BRM
Title: Re: A 50s racer from Allan L
Post by: D-type on December 01, 2007, 05:29:40 PM: Maserati 250F

Not sure which chassis - probably either 2507, 2508 or 2509. Given time I might be able to nail it down
Title: Re: A 50s racer from Allan L
Post by: Allan L on December 02, 2007, 04:49:36 AM: Quote from: D-type on December 01, 2007, 05:29:40 PM
Maserati 250F

Yes, but which, where and who?
Not too difficult now . . . . ;D
Title: Re: A 50s racer from Allan L
Post by: Paul Jaray on December 02, 2007, 10:37:22 AM: The Maserati 250f raced with that number (among others gp) on
1954/jul/04 4th GP d'Automobile Club de France, Reims driven by B. Bira chassis 2504 engine from 2044...
1954/jul/04 4th GP d’Automobile Club de France, Reims driven by Ken Wharton chassis 2509.
My guess....the first!
Title: Re: A 50s racer from Allan L
Post by: Allan L on December 02, 2007, 01:30:16 PM: Quote from: PAUL JARAY on December 02, 2007, 10:37:22 AM
The Maserati 250f raced with that number (among others gp) on
1954/jul/04 4th GP d'Automobile Club de France, Reims driven by B. Bira chassis 2504 engine from 2044...
1954/jul/04 4th GP d’Automobile Club de France, Reims driven by Ken Wharton chassis 2509.
My guess....the first!
Not France, nor Bira nor Wharton
Title: Re: A 50s racer from Allan L
Post by: Paul Jaray on December 02, 2007, 02:27:56 PM: ok, than:
1955/07/16 R.A.C. British GP driven by Lance Macklin, chassis 2508
1956/09/02 GP d'Italia driven by Umberto Maglioli & Jean Behra, chassis 2523
1958/05/18 GP de Monaco, Monte Carlo, driven by Giorgio Scarlatti chassis 2529.
My guess...the first!
Title: Re: A 50s racer from Allan L
Post by: D-type on December 02, 2007, 03:31:12 PM: I would say definitely 2508 in 1955 as it's the only one 250F I've ever seen pictured with those wheels.

Could the driver be Johnny Claes in practice for the Belgian GP? the Belgians used to use different numbers in practice to foil the programme pirates. In which case the date would be 3rd or 4th of June 1955.

Or am I barking up the wrong tree altogether?
Title: Re: A 50s racer from Allan L
Post by: Allan L on December 03, 2007, 04:04:53 AM: 2508 was the second car to be fitted with those wheels (and brakes).
The other has been mentioned, but with a different driver and location.
Title: Re: A 50s racer from Allan L
Post by: D-type on December 03, 2007, 03:08:41 PM: So does that make it 2009, the Owen Organisation car?
Title: Re: A 50s racer from Allan L
Post by: Allan L on December 03, 2007, 05:46:10 PM: Quote from: D-type on December 03, 2007, 03:08:41 PM
So does that make it 2009, the Owen Organisation car?
Yes, 2509 (as you intended) it is.
Where and who, then?
Title: Re: A 50s racer from Allan L
Post by: grobmotorix on December 03, 2007, 06:08:37 PM: So this is my guess:

Peter Collins drove the #42 Maserati 250F for the Owen Organisation during the 1955 R.A.C. British GP/ Aintree and retired because of a broken clutch.
Title: Re: A 50s racer from Allan L
Post by: Allan L on December 04, 2007, 03:29:03 AM: Quote from: grobmotorix on December 03, 2007, 06:08:37 PM

So this is my guess:

Peter Collins drove the #42 Maserati 250F for the Owen Organisation during the 1955 R.A.C. British GP/ Aintree and retired because of a broken clutch.
That's the one!
Title: Re: A 50s racer from Allan L: Peter Collins in Maserati 2509 at Aintree in 1955
Post by: grobmotorix on December 04, 2007, 02:41:50 PM: Oh, I´ve solved my first racing car guess here, I think...