Connections! Puzzle #1 Solved! Duesenberg / Rambler / AMC / Indy 500

Otto Puzzell · January 18, 2007, 02:09:47 PM

No.

Tifosi · January 20, 2007, 12:51:53 AM

Are both cars powered by straight-8 engines?

Dan

Otto Puzzell · January 20, 2007, 04:35:59 AM

They are not. The new car has a straight 6.

Tifosi · January 20, 2007, 04:56:12 AM

Was the second car an official entry at the Speedway? Did it get any track time?

Dan

Dan

Otto Puzzell · January 20, 2007, 05:07:07 AM

It was entered, and attempted (and failed) to qualify, more than once.

Tifosi · January 20, 2007, 03:29:56 PM

Okay, time to get foxy...

Dan

hugo90 · January 21, 2007, 09:48:31 PM

I don't know the answer but can throw more stuff into the fire. The Kline Kar was from Lancaster Pennsylvania. The widowed Mrs Kline was a neighbor to a friend of mine, and she always drove Cadillacs. So could Cadillac be the answer? I believe that the Klines later started Universal Tire Co., which today makes tires for old cars.

Otto Puzzell · January 22, 2007, 04:11:20 AM

The connection is not Kline.

GTO48 · January 22, 2007, 11:54:19 AM

The connection has to be somehow Duesenberg then right?

Are they similar designs such as the walking beam engines?

Otto Puzzell · January 22, 2007, 03:21:35 PM

The Duesenberg connection is right. However, the configuration of the newer engine is utterly conventional, even a bit outdated, by racing standards.

GTO48 · January 22, 2007, 05:43:47 PM

hmm... So the new car has a Duesenberg motor eh?

Otto Puzzell · January 23, 2007, 04:59:12 AM

No.

Re-read the puzzle question at the beginning of this thread.

Tifosi · January 23, 2007, 03:49:54 PM

Okay, here's what I got... the second car was built by Barney Navarro in 1968 and was powered by a Straight-6 AMC engine displacing 199 cubic inches. It was a flathead, and was twin-turbocharged. Problems with the carburettors werre enough to keep the car from qualifying, even though it was rumopred to have put out from 550-700 hp.

Possible connections between engines:

1. both flatheads
2. both turbocharged
3. both used more than 1 turbo

Connections woiuld be Duesenberg/AMC, Navarro family[?] and one of the afore mentioned engine connections. Am I getting close?

Dan

Otto Puzzell · January 23, 2007, 04:30:53 PM

The Navarro puzzle piece was critical in getting to the AMC part. of the solultion.

Dusenberg is also part of the solution.

You are on the brink of solving this puzzle!

What is the connection between AMC and Duesenberg?

Arthur Dent · January 23, 2007, 04:47:21 PM

both dead?

I dunno maybe it was their respective first tries

Tifosi · January 23, 2007, 08:18:26 PM

Could it be George Mason? I know that he worked for several car companies before he set up AMC, and Mason was a forerunner to Duesenberg...so, is that the connection?

Dan

GTO48 · January 24, 2007, 12:30:03 AM

Here's a connection between AMC and Duesenberg.

AMC is now owned by Chrysler.

The 1966 Duesenberg show car was powered by a Chrysler engine and based off of the Imperial chassis.

GTO48 · January 24, 2007, 12:51:20 AM

Duesenberg had the Mormon Meteor.

Former AMC president/politician George Romney was a Mormon?

Otto Puzzell · January 24, 2007, 02:57:57 AM

You kill me.

GTO48 · January 24, 2007, 03:25:43 AM

Hey, c'mon...

I listed 2 famous brands, and one famous family and connected them all! That's gotta count for something!

Otto Puzzell · January 24, 2007, 03:34:35 AM

Actually, that was a compliment. As obscure as the connection is that I'm looking for, you trumped it!

GTO48 · January 24, 2007, 04:02:18 AM

SWEET!

I actually thought I might have nailed it with the mormon reference!

Otto Puzzell · January 24, 2007, 04:33:05 PM

There is another AMC / Duesenberg angle...

Tifosi · January 25, 2007, 01:36:06 AM

Could the engines have been built in the same factory?

Dan

Otto Puzzell · January 25, 2007, 03:50:22 AM

No.

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Connections! Puzzle #1 Solved! Duesenberg / Rambler / AMC / Indy 500