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Title: Puzzle #257 - Solved! Graham Model 97
Post by: Otto Puzzell on March 17, 2007, 06:18:44 AM
(http://www.autopuzzles.com/RP257.jpg)

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Please, respond below and let us know the make and model designation of the car posted here.

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Title: Re: Puzzle #257
Post by: F(minus)1 on March 19, 2007, 01:01:46 AM
40's Pontiac? These puzzles frustrate me no end.
Title: Re: Puzzle #257
Post by: Otto Puzzell on March 19, 2007, 03:29:24 AM
No a Pontiac.
Title: Re: Puzzle #257
Post by: Granttt73 on March 19, 2007, 09:18:51 PM
The next to last Graham, often called 'Sharknose" unofficially.  Styled by Northrup, and flacked with the theme, "Spirit of Motion."   [Guess I should put 'Model 97' in here somewhere. ] For some reason, growing up in Los Angeles, I had seen a lot of old crs but no 'sharknose.'  So when one of my first grade readers had an illustrator who liked this car and used it in a lot of her art, I though she was completely crazy, that no real car would ever look like that.  When I was about 25 I realized this was her 'model."  I know it came out for '38, they probably took a couple years to sell them;  then they built Hupp Skylarks and Graham Hollywoods from Cord tooling they had bought.  After making WWII products, they turned over to rototillers and let ex-pres Joe Frazer have materials which he and H. J. Kaiser used when they built their postwar new K-Fs.   (Freudian typo changed, I had said "Hupp 'Skylards,' " not that the d and the k are close on a keyboard!) 
Title: Re: Puzzle #257
Post by: Otto Puzzell on March 20, 2007, 03:59:27 AM
A Graham Model 97 Supercharged convertible coupe from1939, to be exact.

Welcome to the pro ranks!  :)
Title: Re: Puzzle #257 - Solved! Graham Model 97
Post by: Granttt73 on March 22, 2007, 06:04:03 PM
Thanks.  It took awhile.  I was worried about that chrome strip, did not match the convertibles I had seen.  So now I can post rookie or pro picks and may only guess pro pics, right? 
Title: Re: Puzzle #257 - Solved! Graham Model 97
Post by: otis89 on March 22, 2007, 08:09:32 PM
You can only guess on pro puzzles now, but you could've posted puzzles of your own before you guessed any correct if you wanted to.
Title: Re: Puzzle #257 - Solved! Graham Model 97
Post by: Otto Puzzell on March 23, 2007, 04:05:33 AM
Quote from: Granttt73 on March 22, 2007, 06:04:03 PM
So now I can post rookie or pro picks and may only guess pro pics, right? 

Correct
Title: Re: Puzzle #257 - Solved! Graham Model 97
Post by: Granttt73 on March 23, 2007, 01:40:27 PM
So we post a lot of shots that we found, stole, purloined.  (I shouldn't have said loined.). 

I am brave enough to enter service stations and ask directions, so is there a FAQ on posting puzzles that we, can't exactly find the Ps and A & O.

Authenticity, provenance, ownership, permission?

Authenticity,  I don't see a problem in this crowd.  Provenance, I guess that isn't important here either--since I wouldn't have any.  Ownership, I don't have a picture of a vehicle that would stump.  Permission,  clearly if it is copyrighted, we don't post it.

All that verbiage should make someone nauseated enough to point me toward the answers!
Title: Re: Puzzle #257 - Solved! Graham Model 97
Post by: Otto Puzzell on March 23, 2007, 01:44:52 PM
I'll bow to siteowner Ultra to answer the legal stuff.

When I remember to, and when I can remember from whence I snarfed the pics, I try to post a credit after the puzzle is solved. Admittedly, I am way behind on this... :-[
Title: Re: Puzzle #257 - Solved! Graham Model 97
Post by: Ultra on March 25, 2007, 09:41:22 PM
Quote from: Granttt73 on March 23, 2007, 01:40:27 PM
So we post a lot of shots that we found, stole, purloined.  (I shouldn't have said loined.). 

I am brave enough to enter service stations and ask directions, so is there a FAQ on posting puzzles that we, can't exactly find the Ps and A & O.

Authenticity, provenance, ownership, permission?

Authenticity,  I don't see a problem in this crowd.  Provenance, I guess that isn't important here either--since I wouldn't have any.  Ownership, I don't have a picture of a vehicle that would stump.  Permission,  clearly if it is copyrighted, we don't post it.

All that verbiage should make someone nauseated enough to point me toward the answers!

I am not a lawyer.  When I spoke with Winding Road, Bob Weber and I agreed that, upon puzzle completion, by giving credit to the website that photos were originally found no legal problems should be incurred.  In the end, my reading on this topic has led me to believe that we are well within fair use laws.  Other factors I considered is that there is no revenue of any kind being generated by this site.  It is strictly a library of esoteric autos.

I tend to feel comfortable with what we do here.   :)
Title: Re: Puzzle #257 - Solved! Graham Model 97
Post by: Tifosi on March 25, 2007, 11:29:16 PM
A problem that I've run into is that I can sometimes download a photo to My Pictures, but when I try to put them into My Documents, I get a rather threatening message about shutting down my computer because an illegal act is about to take place, or words to that effect...it's rather a problem in trying to get photos for an article on the '67 Indy 500 that I'm trying to get ready to post here.  Several photos I have have "watermarks" from the home site that I'm afraid to post, because of a possible copyright infringement issue.  I figured we were probably a no-profit site, but I wanted to make sure...and I don't know if a couple of photos I'd like to use even have a copyright...I don't know who took them, but they're clear and good shots.


Dan
Title: Re: Puzzle #257 - Solved! Graham Model 97
Post by: Ultra on March 25, 2007, 11:43:50 PM
Quote from: Tifosi on March 25, 2007, 11:29:16 PM
A problem that I've run into is that I can sometimes download a photo to My Pictures, but when I try to put them into My Documents, I get a rather threatening message about shutting down my computer because an illegal act is about to take place, or words to that effect...it's rather a problem in trying to get photos for an article on the '67 Indy 500 that I'm trying to get ready to post here.  Several photos I have have "watermarks" from the home site that I'm afraid to post, because of a possible copyright infringement issue.  I figured we were probably a no-profit site, but I wanted to make sure...and I don't know if a couple of photos I'd like to use even have a copyright...I don't know who took them, but they're clear and good shots.


Dan

We are a non-profit site!  We are an automotive library site.  At this point, as far as I am concerned and unless drastic changes take place in the future, we shall remain that way.   As to the photos, if they have that type of copy protection that prevents uploading them, we probably don't want them here.  Anythiing else seems fine to me.