(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u284/GRAYWOLF69/30.jpg)
Mors or Talbot: body by Tomlinson, possibly
Nope.
is it an early Packard?
NOpe
Cadillac?
Dan
It is a Cadillac. I'll give you (or anyone) another point if you can tell me what is so special about it.
This looks very much like a 1908 Model G limousine.
What is special about it:
"The Model G eschewed the complicated planetary transmission used on other luxury four-cylinder cars of the era for a less-complicated sliding gear system."
from: <<< link removed >>>
"Model G cars have the name "Cadillac" embossed on the radiator shell. The standard color for the touring car was dark blue body and frame rails with a fine, primrose stripe, cream and yellow wheels and axles with dark blue stripes; Brewster green with red running gear could be had on option; the motor developed 20HP and this car rode on a 100-inch wheel base, like the 1907 car. The Roadster came with a single "Dickey" or rumble seat; again lights and top were optional; the standard color was French gray with fine red striping and red leather upholstery [the late Phil Dumka lists also the same roadster with double "Dickey" for $2025]. The superbly luxurious Limousine had an electric dome light and a speaking tube; the standard colors were dark blue and black with dark blue running gear and light blue striping; this huge car rode on a 102" wheel base chassis"
from: <<< link removed >>>
Well, I don't know which model this is. I am looking for facts about an award GM received for it and why.
Is this the model that won the (British) RAC Dewar Trophy? This was awarded for something like technical excellence.
Cadillac took three cars to Brooklands, dismantled them to the last nut and bolt, shovelled all the pieces into a heap and mixed them up, then assembled three cars with parts selected 'at random', the cars ran. This demonstrated that they were true mass production cars requiring no 'fettling' of parts to fit.
If I've guessed wrong - read my signature!
I don't see a Sig, but you get the point...
The original pic:
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u284/GRAYWOLF69/gmauto3c18017r.jpg)
Quote from: GRAYWOLF on April 24, 2007, 10:35:13 AM
I don't see a Sig, but you get the point...
He's getting confused, poor lad – in another place he signs off thus:
Oh Lord, please help me keep my big mouth shut until I know what I am talking about!
Thanks Allan, I think that's the omission corrected :-[
I see it now...
(Bringing another old thread back to life)
The puzzle car was not involved in the Dewar Trophy competition. Those were all 2-seaters. The award was presented to Cadillac in 1909 for the 1908 competition.
Here is more information, and a couple of images:
In February 1908, three Model Ks from the 1907 Cadillac production were released from the stock of Frederick Stanley Bennett (UK agent for Cadillac automobiles) at the Heddon Street showroom in London (these were engines Nos. 23391, 24111 and 24118). The three cars, all registered in London under the numbers A2EO, A3EO and A4EO, were driven 25 miles to the Brooklands race track at Weybridge. There, the cars completed another 25 miles before being put under lock and key until Monday March 2, 1908 when they were released and disassembled completely. Their 721 component parts were scrambled in one heap. Eighty-nine parts requiring extreme accuracy were withdrawn from the heap, locked away at the Brooklands club house and replaced with new parts from the Mr. Bennett's showroom stock. A mechanic - Mr. E.O. Young - reassembled the cars with the help of his assistant - Mr. M.M. Gardner. Sometimes they had to work ankle-deep in water, using only wrenches and screwdrivers. The third car was re-assembled by Tuesday evening, March 10. By 2 p.m. on Friday March 13 the three cars had completed the mandatory 500-mile run with singular regularity. Only one point was lost owing to a broken cotter pin in the ignition lever (promptly replaced from stock). During the event, it was reported that one of the sheds where the parts were stored became partly flooded during a heavy storm and some parts became rusted. Only oily rags could be used to remove all traces of the immersion. On completion of the test, one of the cars was placed under lock and key where it remained until the start of the 2000-miles Reliability Trials, several months later. It came out the winner of the R.A.C. Trophy! Parts interchangeability could not have been demonstrated in any more convincing way.
That's the best description of the Dewar Trophy I've ever read. Thanks for posting it!
RtR
Quoted from wikipedia...