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Title: Puzzle #578 - RR 40/50 or 1908 Delaunay-Belleville
Post by: Otto Puzzell on November 07, 2007, 05:49:46 AM
(http://www.autopuzzles.com/PP578.JPG)

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Title: Re: Puzzle #578
Post by: Allan L on November 18, 2007, 11:04:55 AM
Lanchester, probably a Sporting 40 of 1914-15
Title: Re: Puzzle #578
Post by: Allan L on November 22, 2007, 08:07:01 AM
Well?
Title: Re: Puzzle #578
Post by: Otto Puzzell on November 22, 2007, 10:36:05 AM
Nope.
Title: Re: Puzzle #578
Post by: wilsongt on January 01, 2008, 07:50:47 PM
Hispano Suiza?

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Glenn
Title: Re: Puzzle #578
Post by: Otto Puzzell on January 02, 2008, 01:58:19 AM
No sir.
Title: Re: Puzzle #578
Post by: Allan L on January 02, 2008, 04:09:55 AM
"London-Edinburgh" 40/50 Rolls-Royce
Title: Re: Puzzle #578
Post by: Otto Puzzell on January 05, 2008, 03:10:55 AM
Not one of those, but you're getting warmer.
Title: Re: Puzzle #578
Post by: Allan L on February 17, 2008, 11:21:10 AM
Quote from: KarnUtz on January 05, 2008, 03:10:55 AM
Not one of those, but you're getting warmer.
D'you mean it's a Royce, but not a 40/50 (aka inaccurately as Silver Ghost)?
Title: Re: Puzzle #578
Post by: Otto Puzzell on February 17, 2008, 02:50:31 PM
Not a Rolls, nor a Royce.
Title: Re: Puzzle #578
Post by: Otto Puzzell on February 21, 2008, 05:26:07 AM
The coachbuilder of this car was also often associated with Mr. R, and Mr. R.
Title: Re: Puzzle #578
Post by: grobmotorix on April 07, 2008, 06:54:05 PM
Is it based on an Invicta chassis?
Title: Re: Puzzle #578
Post by: Otto Puzzell on April 08, 2008, 05:10:37 AM
Quote from: grobmotorix on April 07, 2008, 06:54:05 PM
Is it based on an Invicta chassis?

No sir.

Go South.
Title: Re: Puzzle #578
Post by: pieter on April 08, 2008, 06:28:07 AM
How far south? A Hispano Suiza? before 1926?
Title: Re: Puzzle #578
Post by: Otto Puzzell on April 08, 2008, 12:28:12 PM
France
Title: Re: Puzzle #578
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 08, 2008, 01:42:33 PM
Cottin & Desgouttes?
Title: Re: Puzzle #578
Post by: grobmotorix on April 08, 2008, 01:59:56 PM
I personally do definitely not think  it´s a 1908 Delaunay-Belleville with coachwork by Mulliner like it seems to be shown here:

http://www.classicdriver.com/uk/magazine/3500.asp?id=11669

, but it is the Rolls Royce Silver Ghost chassis No. 2484 with Tourer coachwork by Cann Ltd. which was delivered to the Rt. Hon. Lord Carbery.

as can be read above the pic...

A well known Delaunay-Belleville (with Mulliner coachwork) of 1908 looks like this one:

(http://www.supercars.net/carpics/2417/1908_DelaunayBelleville_F6MullinerRoidesBelgesTourer1.jpg)

http://www.supercars.net/Pics?v=y&s=c&id=2417&p=1908_DelaunayBelleville_F6MullinerRoidesBelgesTourer1.jpg

they had a quite remarkable round cooler mask.

So I think there must be some mistake in here....


Title: Re: Puzzle #578
Post by: Ray B. on April 08, 2008, 02:23:57 PM
Quote from: grobmotorix on April 08, 2008, 01:59:56 PM
, but it is the Rolls Royce Silver Ghost chassis No. 2484 with Tourer coachwork by Cann Ltd. which was delivered to the Rt. Hon. Lord Carbery.

I think you're right. I found this photo and I believe this is the car in its present state.
Title: Re: Puzzle #578
Post by: grobmotorix on April 08, 2008, 02:36:15 PM
So that´s why I think Allan L deserves the point:

http://www.conceptcarz.com/vehicle/chassisNum.aspx?carID=9102&iDNumID=1371

Title: Re: Puzzle #578
Post by: Ray B. on April 08, 2008, 02:40:56 PM
I completely agree.
Title: Re: Puzzle #578
Post by: @re on April 08, 2008, 03:05:33 PM
I find it a bit intriguing that you found the picture of a pre-1910 Rolls Royce on the web page conceptcarz.com :)

Edit: I guess it's just as funny to find a 1908 Delaunay-Belleville at supercars.net...
Title: Re: Puzzle #578
Post by: Allan L on April 08, 2008, 04:24:23 PM
I'm confused: I was told I was getting warmer when I identified it as a London-Edinburgh 40/50 Rolls-Royce
When I suggested you mean it's a Royce, but not a 40/50 (aka inaccurately as Silver Ghost) I was told "not a Rolls not a Royce"
(perhaps the shorthand "Royce" for Rolls-Royce confused you - it's how they referred to the company themselves, as did we who had dealings with them)
Someone said Invicta and you said go south: Derby is north of Cobham

So
it is a Rolls-Royce
it is a 40/50 (often generically called "Silver Ghost", though strictly that was one car)
it is a London-Edinburgh (or later) (cantilever rear springs)
probably about 1913 from the chassis number, but never Dated by the Veteran Car Club of GB

The classicdriver link didn't work for me, by the way
Title: Re: Puzzle #578
Post by: Otto Puzzell on April 09, 2008, 05:16:00 AM
What do I know? Everyone here says you ID'd it correctly.