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Title: Puzzle #764 - Solved! AM Tourer built by Vinot Et Deguingand
Post by: Otto Puzzell on February 28, 2008, 05:20:38 AM
(http://www.autopuzzles.com/PP764.JPG)

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Title: Re: Puzzle #764
Post by: Paul Jaray on March 01, 2008, 11:59:18 AM
Hi, is that a Peugeot, perhaps type 143 from 1913?
Title: Re: Puzzle #764
Post by: Otto Puzzell on March 02, 2008, 06:50:36 AM
Not a Peugeot. Not entirely French, either.
Title: Re: Puzzle #764
Post by: Ray B. on April 08, 2008, 09:22:33 AM
Is it a Corre La Licorne ?
Title: Re: Puzzle #764
Post by: Otto Puzzell on April 08, 2008, 12:32:08 PM
It is not.
Title: Re: Puzzle #764
Post by: jimjarron on July 01, 2008, 12:55:04 AM
Circa 1912 Humber 12/20?
Title: Re: Puzzle #764
Post by: Otto Puzzell on July 01, 2008, 05:26:22 AM
Not a Humber. Remember not entirely French was an earlier reply/clue.
Title: Re: Puzzle #764
Post by: max on July 01, 2008, 09:25:06 AM
Napier?
Title: Re: Puzzle #764
Post by: Otto Puzzell on July 01, 2008, 11:54:44 AM
No sir.
Title: Re: Puzzle #764
Post by: jimjarron on July 02, 2008, 11:40:59 AM
Can't say I really understand that clue (I didn't even realise it was one), but how about a 1912 Le Zèbre A?
Title: Re: Puzzle #764
Post by: Ray B. on July 02, 2008, 11:50:38 AM
And what about a 1911 Berliet AK (I didn't take time to check what wasn't french in this one)
Title: Re: Puzzle #764
Post by: Otto Puzzell on July 02, 2008, 03:11:52 PM
Quote from: jimjarron on July 02, 2008, 11:40:59 AM
Can't say I really understand that clue (I didn't even realise it was one), but how about a 1912 Le Zèbre A?

The clue was meant to let folks know that while this car is not all French (like a Peugeot, for instance), there some Frech in it.

Not a Le Zèbre .
Title: Re: Puzzle #764
Post by: Otto Puzzell on July 02, 2008, 03:15:23 PM
Quote from: Ray B. on July 02, 2008, 11:50:38 AM
And what about a 1911 Berliet AK (I didn't take time to check what wasn't french in this one)

No
Title: Re: Puzzle #764
Post by: DynaMike on July 28, 2008, 07:50:17 PM
Not entirely French... makes me think of Sunbeam-Darracq or Talbot-Darracq. But I couldn't find anything matching, though.
Title: Re: Puzzle #764
Post by: Otto Puzzell on July 29, 2008, 03:53:11 AM
No, neither of those...
Title: Re: Puzzle #764
Post by: Otto Puzzell on September 26, 2008, 04:29:29 AM
 :bump:
Title: Re: Puzzle #764
Post by: jimjarron on October 03, 2008, 02:56:14 AM
Circa 1911 Sunbeam 16/20?
Title: Re: Puzzle #764
Post by: Otto Puzzell on October 03, 2008, 05:16:23 AM
No sir.
Title: Re: Puzzle #764
Post by: Allemano on October 03, 2008, 05:45:43 AM
Some Czech relation?
Title: Re: Puzzle #764
Post by: Otto Puzzell on October 03, 2008, 06:08:53 AM
No
Title: Re: Puzzle #764
Post by: Joao Gois on November 24, 2008, 09:17:01 AM
Maybe British car with French coachwork?
Title: Re: Puzzle #764
Post by: Otto Puzzell on November 24, 2008, 11:25:01 AM
Sorry, folks. My earlier clues appear to have been incorrect. This car is 100% French, apparently.
Title: Re: Puzzle #764
Post by: Joao Gois on November 24, 2008, 12:29:02 PM
Le Zébre?
Title: Re: Puzzle #764
Post by: Otto Puzzell on November 24, 2008, 01:49:42 PM
No sir.
Title: Re: Puzzle #764
Post by: Ehhxekt on December 12, 2008, 03:31:54 PM
Yesterday, by pure accident, I stumbled upon it: a 1914 Vinot (or Vinot-Deguingand) AM Tourer. I am anything but an expert of the era; here is what a respectable source says of the name of the manufacturer:
The double-barrelled name Vinot-Deguingand was only used early in the company’s history; once the cars became established they were always known simply as Vinots.
They introduced their first cars as early as 1901, so a 1914 model might fall into the ’established’ period I suppose?
Title: Re: Puzzle #764
Post by: Paul Jaray on December 12, 2008, 04:42:45 PM
You are right (about the name), was Vinot after 1907  till 1925 and from 1928 simply Deguingand and Vinot & Deguingand from 1901.
Title: Re: Puzzle #764 - Solved! AM Tourer built by Vinot Et Deguingand
Post by: Otto Puzzell on December 13, 2008, 01:54:19 AM
Let me clear up the confusion then.

It is a,    first built and registered in 1910. I believe the coachwork dates to 1914, hence the confusion. Since I didn't ask for the year, the point is yours, Ehhxekt

Only six examples of this car are known to have survived. It is a combination of French chassis and running gear fitted with English-built coachwork.
Title: Re: Puzzle #764 - Solved! AM Tourer built by Vinot Et Deguingand
Post by: Allan L on December 13, 2008, 04:01:10 AM
As they used to say in Messkirch and Rastatt
in Vinot Veritas ;D