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Q#94 - solved - Vittorio Sorgatto's 1974 compressed air car

Started by Quiller, September 19, 2008, 05:33:29 AM

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Quiller

Another difficult one - open for all!

grobmotorix

#1
Is it the chassis of a Ferves Ranger with Fiat 500 components?

The buildings may be of northern italian origin, too.

EDIT: as I´ve found a pic of a Ferves chassis I think I wasn´t totally wrong:


http://www.fiat500.ch/pics/Modelle/Ferves/ferves_05.jpg

Maybe your chassis is older and of a more conservative design, but there are many parallels, too...

Allemano

Guess the steering wheel is Italian — Nardi, maybe.

Quiller

You're right about the country of origin - Italy - but, although I'm not sure about the chassis, it definitely doesn't have a Fiat 500 engine

Allemano

#4
At the risk to give it away: ISO?

But it also has a huge electric generator.  ???

Quiller

It's not electric - in fact the choice of motive power is what makes this an interesting machine

Allemano

It has no gear-box and it has a strange hose-frame-construction above the front axle. Is it part of the drive?
Hydraulical or hydro-pneumatical?

Quiller


jotage21


Quiller

Nothing to do with Lawil as far as I'm aware

Allemano

Think I won't get further. I need some hints!

Quiller

Here is another car with a similar power source

Allan L

Opinionated but sometimes wrong

Quiller

Quote from: Allan L on September 22, 2008, 05:03:12 PM
Alfa-Laval? ;D

Looked Alfa-Laval up on Google and it says it provides "services for liquid/solid separation". Separating fact from fiction, this car is on a different laval

Allemano

Was this project promoted rather by a "back-yard mechanic" or is a major Italian car manufacturer behind this.

Allan L

Quote from: Quiller on September 22, 2008, 06:16:44 PM
Quote from: Allan L on September 22, 2008, 05:03:12 PM
Alfa-Laval? ;D

Looked Alfa-Laval up on Google and it says it provides "services for liquid/solid separation". Separating fact from fiction, this car is on a different laval
I recall them as manufacturers of milking machines and associated equipment, hence the dig!
Opinionated but sometimes wrong

Quiller

Quote from: Allemano on September 22, 2008, 06:38:10 PM
Was this project promoted rather by a "back-yard mechanic" or is a major Italian car manufacturer behind this.

Yes this was one guy's vision, myopic or otherwise, not a major manufacturer

Allemano

#17
I definetely know the name of the yellow car and very certainly the name of the man explaining the engine. I also know the concept of the engine, but don't want to give it away for the moment.
Concerning to the inventor: is there a strong connection to Australia? Let's say he's an emigrant? Mr. A.d.P from Melbourne born in Italy? Another possibility is Mr. V.S. from Milano who built also such a car in the 1970s..

The terrible thing is: I haven't found a single pic of the puzzle car yet...

Quiller

Excellent sleuthing! Your Milan connection is correct - would you like to reveal the inventor's name for a well deserved point?

Allemano

#19
The inventor's name is Vittorio Sorgato and his car was equipped with an air-engine (compressed air technology).
The yellow car is from the French company M.D.I. (Moteur Developement International) http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=D-A3XHFT5qc&eurl=http://www.techeblog.com/index.php/tech-gadget/a-look-back-air-powered-engine
A collaboration with Indian brand TATA is planned.

There also was a trace to Melbourne respectively to Angelo di Pietro who also works on a similar concept, but he already left Italy in 1970.

Allemano

#20
Do you have a pic of the bodied car?

Arunas

Possibly it is FART Break by Fabbrica Autoveicoli Rimorchi Torino ???

Quiller

Excellent work, sir. I'm afraid the pic I posted is the only one I have - does anyone have any others?

Allemano


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