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Puzzles, Games and Name That Car => Solved AutoPuzzles => 2008 => Topic started by: Allemano on September 10, 2008, 09:07:07 AM

Title: Solved: 19. of.All., AMX III proposal by Giugiaro
Post by: Allemano on September 10, 2008, 09:07:07 AM: 1. Who designed this proposal?
2. For which company it was built?
3. Which car was finally presented?
Title: Re: 19. of All.
Post by: pieter on September 10, 2008, 10:02:17 AM: A wild guess; is it the prototype for the Ford GT40 by Lola, called, iirc, the p-car?
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Post by: pieter on September 10, 2008, 10:55:44 AM: Okay, I'm not so sure about this. All I could find was the car Lola built and campaigned themselves (first pic), the car McLaren built and raced (second pic) and the GTP (third pic).

Looking at it again, it looks like the De Tomaso Mangusta.
Title: Re: 19. of All.
Post by: Allemano on September 10, 2008, 11:09:18 AM: Sorry, wrong direction! All of the mentioned brands/firms were not involved.

I give you a second view:
Title: Re: 19. of All.
Post by: Allemano on September 11, 2008, 06:00:32 AM: time for a help: the car which finally was presented never got into production. It's supposed that only six cars were built.
Title: Re: 19. of All.
Post by: Arunas on September 11, 2008, 08:06:53 AM: Quote from: Allemano on September 11, 2008, 06:00:32 AM
time for a help: the car which finally was presented never got into production. It's supposed that only six cars were built.

European car?
Title: Re: 19. of All.
Post by: Allemano on September 11, 2008, 08:11:58 AM: Not quite easy to answer. The company definetely wasn't European.
Title: Re: 19. of All.
Post by: Arunas on September 11, 2008, 01:04:30 PM: Quote from: Allemano on September 11, 2008, 08:11:58 AM
Not quite easy to answer. The company definetely wasn't European.

South America? Brazilia?
1) You want to know the designer?
2) You are talking about the make's country?
Title: Re: 19. of All.
Post by: Allemano on September 11, 2008, 01:29:25 PM: Look at the first post! Think it's clearly explained! ;)
Title: Re: 19. of All.
Post by: Allemano on September 24, 2008, 06:00:16 AM: Time for a move!
What about the Pros? (http://www.mysmilie.de/midi-smileys/verwirrt/2/0033.gif) (http://www.mysmilie.de/)
Title: Re: 19. of All.
Post by: Otto Puzzell on September 24, 2008, 06:02:50 AM: Any relation to the AMX III?
Title: Re: 19. of All.
Post by: Allemano on September 24, 2008, 06:20:23 AM: Very very good! (http://www.mysmilie.de/midi-smileys/verwirrt/1/0007.gif) (http://www.mysmilie.de/)
Finding the designer should be easy now!
Title: Re: 19. of All.
Post by: Arunas on September 24, 2008, 07:32:44 AM: Quote from: Allemano on September 24, 2008, 06:20:23 AM
Very very good! (http://www.mysmilie.de/midi-smileys/verwirrt/1/0007.gif) (http://www.mysmilie.de/)
Finding the designer should be easy now!

Richard A. (Dick) Teague?
Title: Re: 19. of All.
Post by: Allemano on September 24, 2008, 07:49:31 AM: No, I'm sorry!
Title: Re: 19. of All.
Post by: Otto Puzzell on September 24, 2008, 07:50:11 AM: American Motors AMX III would have been a better reply, but I wasn't sure that was correct. It was somewhat of a guess, because though it was similar, there are quite a few detail differences, compared to the AMX III that was finally presented. Your picture seems to have some AMX II and AMX III elements to it.
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Post by: Otto Puzzell on September 24, 2008, 07:54:00 AM: Differing stories about the AMX III's design are peppered around the internet. Some say it was a Teague design, some say it was Vignale, since they built the short prototype run. I suspect it was a Teague idea, cleaned up and brought to life by Vignale.
Title: Re: 19. of All.
Post by: Allemano on September 24, 2008, 07:54:32 AM: Another pic:
Title: Re: 19. of All.
Post by: Allemano on September 24, 2008, 07:57:55 AM: Quote from: Otto Puzzell on September 24, 2008, 07:54:00 AM
Differing stories about the AMX III's design are peppered around the internet. Some say it was a Teague design, some say it was Vignale, since they built the short prototype run. I suspect it was a Teague idea, cleaned up and brought to life by Vignale.

Some Italians were involved in the AMX/AMC projects: Vignale, Bizzarini for instance, but the white one is definetely designed by another. It's mentioned in well known sources, but you'll hardly find any pics, cos it never was shown to the public.

BTW: Teague was the in-house designer
Title: Re: 19. of All.
Post by: DHoffmann on September 24, 2008, 08:32:38 AM: Was is a BMW proposal? Or one built by Karmann?
Title: Re: 19. of All.
Post by: Allemano on September 24, 2008, 08:34:34 AM: look at posts #10 and #11!
Title: Re: 19. of All.
Post by: DHoffmann on September 24, 2008, 08:36:14 AM: Quote from: Allemano on September 24, 2008, 08:34:34 AM
look at posts #10 and #11!
I know. :)

1969/70 AMX/K Proposal.
"Body?" Dark Grey, prototype for a production run of 1000 units, to be built by Karmann Germany, later droped.
It was cheaper to build the cars in Italy at Bizzarrini's Plant.
Title: Re: 19. of All.
Post by: Allemano on September 24, 2008, 08:43:10 AM: Yes that was one part of the sad story, but there's still the mystery car to solve which was somebody else's design...
Title: Re: 19. of All.
Post by: Otto Puzzell on September 24, 2008, 09:32:23 AM: It looks to have some Tom Tjaarda style to it, or perhaps Marcello Gandini, before he had his morning caffeine.
Title: Re: 19. of All.
Post by: Allemano on September 24, 2008, 09:33:07 AM: No, I'm sorry!
Title: Re: 19. of All.
Post by: Otto Puzzell on September 24, 2008, 09:34:59 AM: Giorgetto Giugiaro?
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Post by: Allemano on September 24, 2008, 09:41:31 AM: Yeeeees!!