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Title: Solved -PJ-16- Biondetti-Norton 4000 Special 1947
Post by: Paul Jaray on December 10, 2008, 04:56:22 PM
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Title: Re: PJ - 16
Post by: Paul Jaray on December 13, 2008, 05:22:12 PM
let's go up....
Title: Re: PJ - 16
Post by: faksta on December 15, 2008, 10:48:57 AM
VERY interesting car, but I don't know what it is...
Title: Re: PJ - 16
Post by: Paul Jaray on December 15, 2008, 11:36:38 AM
Quote from: faksta on December 15, 2008, 10:48:57 AM
VERY interesting car, but I don't know what it is...
If you knew what's beneath that hood...
Title: Re: PJ - 16
Post by: faksta on December 17, 2008, 05:56:43 AM
At least I can suppose it's....well..Italian, eh?
Title: Re: PJ - 16
Post by: Paul Jaray on December 17, 2008, 07:11:52 AM
Sì...
Title: Re: PJ - 16
Post by: faksta on December 17, 2008, 11:21:11 AM
And the track is possibly Monza?
Title: Re: PJ - 16
Post by: Paul Jaray on December 17, 2008, 11:43:56 AM
Not Monza...
Title: Re: PJ - 16
Post by: faksta on December 17, 2008, 12:49:02 PM
Does it have something to do with any big Italian manufacturer? Say, using their chassis?
Title: Re: PJ - 16
Post by: Paul Jaray on December 17, 2008, 12:58:59 PM
No origin are reported for this chassis, even if the previous one and the following ones were taken from 2 different well-known big (not italian) manufacturers. This name is not so obscure because of this latest cars, but this one is particular for ....ok too many clues now!
Title: Re: PJ - 16
Post by: faksta on December 17, 2008, 01:25:56 PM
Could it be Giaur?  ???
Though..no, hardly...I can't recall any Giaur's on foreign chassis except for one Lotus-based car.
Title: Re: PJ - 16
Post by: Paul Jaray on December 17, 2008, 01:39:11 PM
you're right...it's not Giaur.
Title: Re: PJ - 16
Post by: Arunas on December 17, 2008, 01:56:38 PM
Bandini?  ;D
Title: Re: PJ - 16
Post by: Paul Jaray on December 17, 2008, 02:04:18 PM
Not Bandini...
Title: Re: PJ - 16
Post by: faksta on December 17, 2008, 02:40:24 PM
Any connection with Rovelli?
Title: Re: PJ - 16
Post by: Paul Jaray on December 17, 2008, 03:38:40 PM
Not that I'm aware of....
Title: Re: PJ - 16
Post by: Allemano on December 17, 2008, 03:40:01 PM
Alfa Romeo?
Title: Re: PJ - 16
Post by: Paul Jaray on December 17, 2008, 03:42:16 PM
Your question is vague...but no in any case..
Title: Re: PJ - 16
Post by: faksta on December 17, 2008, 04:09:24 PM
By the way, the car was built in the end of fourties, wasn't it?
Title: Re: PJ - 16
Post by: Paul Jaray on December 17, 2008, 04:12:51 PM
Yes it is!
Title: Re: PJ - 16
Post by: faksta on December 17, 2008, 04:33:32 PM
How about O.R.C.A. Hunter then? Though I know nearly nothing about it...
Title: Re: PJ - 16
Post by: Paul Jaray on December 17, 2008, 04:47:09 PM
not an ORCA and not sure I've ever heard about it!
Title: Re: PJ - 16
Post by: faksta on December 17, 2008, 04:51:28 PM
Then another guess will contain the name Giusti and, say, Giusti Daniella in particular.
Title: Re: PJ - 16
Post by: Paul Jaray on December 17, 2008, 04:58:49 PM
Not a Giusti...
Title: Re: PJ - 16
Post by: faksta on December 18, 2008, 09:34:49 AM
Did this company produce any road legal cars?
Title: Re: PJ - 16
Post by: Paul Jaray on December 18, 2008, 09:51:19 AM
Not a company, and about "road legal cars" definition, isn't a Ferrari 250 GTO a road legal car? In those days gentlemen drivers use to drive their cars to the track before the challenge and back home...
If you mean that there were also normal cars for the normal transport purpose, no, because this car is named after its builder-pilot (big clue!) and the other cars named after him were all street-derived, but built for races (even if you could see them along the road!).
Title: Re: PJ - 16
Post by: Allemano on December 18, 2008, 10:17:23 AM
The brand: O.S.C.A.?
Title: Re: PJ - 16
Post by: faksta on December 18, 2008, 10:32:43 AM
Biondetti-Norton - 1947 Circuito di Torino practice.

Pheeeeew.....
Title: Re: PJ - 16
Post by: Paul Jaray on December 18, 2008, 10:36:02 AM
That's the car!!!
And what's under the hood?
Title: Re: PJ - 16
Post by: faksta on December 18, 2008, 10:39:27 AM
There's a 4-liter Norton engine. Made of several motorcycle ones? 8x500cc (Or 5,3333x750cc  ;D )?
Title: Re: PJ - 16
Post by: Paul Jaray on December 18, 2008, 10:42:20 AM
Absolutely correct, 8 motorcycle-Norton engines!
How did you find it!
The first car by Clemente Biondetti was a Bugatti with a Maserati engine, then He baceme popular with his Biondetti-Jaguars.
Title: Re: PJ - 16
Post by: faksta on December 18, 2008, 10:44:54 AM
I've looked through non-championship race results at one great site with statistics and found some 'Biondetti Special'. Further was just googling...
Title: Re: PJ - 16
Post by: Paul Jaray on December 18, 2008, 10:46:40 AM
You mean even this car can be found on the net?
Title: Re: PJ - 16
Post by: faksta on December 18, 2008, 10:49:12 AM
Why not? I've seemingly found the page from the book you've scanned it from - it was on Italian.
Title: Re: PJ - 16
Post by: Paul Jaray on December 18, 2008, 10:52:31 AM
I found it!
But no, it's not the same book, in mine the picture is complete, in that (the one from that VERY famouse site), is partial, and my book it's quite new and that one seems old.
Here's a picture of a Biondetti I saw in a Mille Miglia in Rome.
Title: Re: PJ - 16
Post by: faksta on December 18, 2008, 11:31:19 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 18, 2008, 10:42:20 AM
The first car by Clemente Biondetti was a Bugatti with a Maserati engine

By the way, was it a Maserati-engined Bugatti or a Bugatti-engined Maserati?
Title: Re: Solved -PJ-16- Biondetti-Norton 4000 Special 1947
Post by: Paul Jaray on December 18, 2008, 11:39:22 AM
...a Maserati's engine in a Bugatti's chassis.
Title: Re: Solved -PJ-16- Biondetti-Norton 4000 Special 1947
Post by: faksta on December 18, 2008, 11:52:07 AM
...and Tipo 26 nose?
Title: Re: Solved -PJ-16- Biondetti-Norton 4000 Special 1947
Post by: Paul Jaray on December 18, 2008, 12:23:28 PM
There are no pics and no more details on my book, just a maserati's engine in a Bugatti's chassis in the 30's.
Title: Re: PJ - 16
Post by: D-type on December 19, 2008, 07:50:06 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 18, 2008, 10:52:31 AM
I found it!
But no, it's not the same book, in mine the picture is complete, in that (the one from that VERY famouse site), is partial, and my book it's quite new and that one seems old.
Here's a picture of a Biondetti I saw in a Mille Miglia in Rome.
I would guess that this is the second Biondetti-Jaguar.  he wanted to buy a C-Type Jaguar but they wouldn't sell him one so he made his own based on an XK120.