Puzzle #578 - RR 40/50 or 1908 Delaunay-Belleville

[Otto Puzzell]

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[Allan L]

Lanchester, probably a Sporting 40 of 1914-15

[Allan L]

Well?

[Otto Puzzell]

Nope.

[wilsongt]

Hispano Suiza?

Regards
Glenn

[Otto Puzzell]

No sir.

[Allan L]

"London-Edinburgh" 40/50 Rolls-Royce

[Otto Puzzell]

Not one of those, but you're getting warmer.

[Allan L]

Not one of those, but you're getting warmer.

D'you mean it's a Royce, but not a 40/50 (aka inaccurately as Silver Ghost)?

[Otto Puzzell]

Not a Rolls, nor a Royce.

[Otto Puzzell]

The coachbuilder of this car was also often associated with Mr. R, and Mr. R.

[grobmotorix]

Is it based on an Invicta chassis?

[Otto Puzzell]

Is it based on an Invicta chassis?

No sir.

Go South.

[pieter]

How far south? A Hispano Suiza? before 1926?

[Otto Puzzell]

France

[Paul Jaray]

Cottin & Desgouttes?

[grobmotorix]

I personally do definitely not think  it´s a 1908 Delaunay-Belleville with coachwork by Mulliner like it seems to be shown here:

http://www.classicdriver.com/uk/magazine/3500.asp?id=11669

, but it is the Rolls Royce Silver Ghost chassis No. 2484 with Tourer coachwork by Cann Ltd. which was delivered to the Rt. Hon. Lord Carbery.

as can be read above the pic...

A well known Delaunay-Belleville (with Mulliner coachwork) of 1908 looks like this one:



http://www.supercars.net/Pics?v=y&s=c&id=2417&p=1908_DelaunayBelleville_F6MullinerRoidesBelgesTourer1.jpg

they had a quite remarkable round cooler mask.

So I think there must be some mistake in here....

[Ray B.]

, but it is the Rolls Royce Silver Ghost chassis No. 2484 with Tourer coachwork by Cann Ltd. which was delivered to the Rt. Hon. Lord Carbery.

I think you're right. I found this photo and I believe this is the car in its present state.

[grobmotorix]

So that´s why I think Allan L deserves the point:

http://www.conceptcarz.com/vehicle/chassisNum.aspx?carID=9102&iDNumID=1371

[Ray B.]

I completely agree.

[@re]

I find it a bit intriguing that you found the picture of a pre-1910 Rolls Royce on the web page conceptcarz.com :)

Edit: I guess it's just as funny to find a 1908 Delaunay-Belleville at supercars.net...

[Allan L]

I'm confused: I was told I was getting warmer when I identified it as a London-Edinburgh 40/50 Rolls-Royce
When I suggested you mean it's a Royce, but not a 40/50 (aka inaccurately as Silver Ghost) I was told "not a Rolls not a Royce"
(perhaps the shorthand "Royce" for Rolls-Royce confused you - it's how they referred to the company themselves, as did we who had dealings with them)
Someone said Invicta and you said go south: Derby is north of Cobham

So
it is a Rolls-Royce
it is a 40/50 (often generically called "Silver Ghost", though strictly that was one car)
it is a London-Edinburgh (or later) (cantilever rear springs)
probably about 1913 from the chassis number, but never Dated by the Veteran Car Club of GB

The classicdriver link didn't work for me, by the way

[Otto Puzzell]

What do I know? Everyone here says you ID'd it correctly.