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Title: 1949 Veritas cabriolet Spohn body - once again...
Post by: kocie_ruchy on December 29, 2009, 02:23:56 PM
ok, so once i tried to challenge you guys with two puzzles with very miserable effect. now i'm an expert i come back and have a will to defeat you  :D so try this:

i need a name of the builder and the carrozzeria that made it
Title: Re: kocie_3
Post by: Ultra on December 29, 2009, 02:24:39 PM
Spohn.

http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=9985.new#new
Title: Re: kocie_3
Post by: Paul Jaray on December 29, 2009, 02:45:18 PM
 :lmao: :lmao:
Title: Re: kocie_3
Post by: kocie_ruchy on December 29, 2009, 05:12:54 PM
dang. no, i mean really  ;D as being a fresh (and rather unsuccessful) so-called expert, i dunno wether i should award a point for that or not, being a repost? or should we forget about my fail alltogether?  :P anyway, i'm going back to my evil headquarters for a challenge that will last more than couple of seconds... looks like that's bigger challenge to my than to you!
Title: Re: 1949 Veritas cabriolet Spohn body - once again...
Post by: Paul Jaray on December 29, 2009, 05:27:00 PM
No offese, but your timing was impressive!
The Mercury by Spohn was solved 1 month ago, but you post this 7 minutes after Mr. StillOutThere passed by with what seems to be the solution.
But are we sure they are the same car? I don't think...
Title: Re: 1949 Veritas cabriolet Spohn body - once again...
Post by: Paul Jaray on December 29, 2009, 05:32:49 PM
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Title: Re: 1949 Veritas cabriolet Spohn body - once again...
Post by: Paul Jaray on December 29, 2009, 05:43:53 PM
and here you are the Mercury and the Chevrolet:
Title: Re: 1949 Veritas cabriolet Spohn body - once again...
Post by: DHoffmann on December 29, 2009, 08:56:31 PM
I actually had this one lined up as well to post once the other source had died down a bit and wasn't so fresh anymore, so if Ultra hadn't gotten to it within a minute (wow!) I would've been next in line.  ;D
Title: Re: 1949 Veritas cabriolet Spohn body - once again...
Post by: Otto Puzzell on December 30, 2009, 03:07:34 AM
and here you are the Mercury and the Chevrolet:


One of those pics has 4 taillight lenses per fin. The other three pics have three lenses per fin.
Title: Re: 1949 Veritas cabriolet Spohn body - once again...
Post by: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2009, 04:11:35 AM
and here you are the Mercury and the Chevrolet:
One of those pics has 4 taillight lenses per fin. The other three pics have three lenses per fin.
They are 4 different models, probably only in details, but no one of these is like the others.
I couldn't find other pics of this Veritas, are there any?
(BTW since it's not a repost, Ultra deserves the point)
Title: Re: 1949 Veritas cabriolet Spohn body - once again...
Post by: Otto Puzzell on December 30, 2009, 04:12:39 AM
Three different ream bumper configurations, too. Here are the rest of the set:

(http://www.autopuzzles.com/Scamcar1.jpg)

(http://www.autopuzzles.com/Scamcar2.jpg)

(http://www.autopuzzles.com/Scamcar3 quote 'the owner took it in his driveway in August 1965'.jpg)

(http://www.autopuzzles.com/Scamcar4.jpg)

(http://www.autopuzzles.com/Scamcar5.jpg)

(http://www.autopuzzles.com/Scamcar6.jpg)
Title: Re: 1949 Veritas cabriolet Spohn body - once again...
Post by: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2009, 04:14:37 AM
There are also 2 Ford convertibles and a Lincoln with the same design: I have only the front view, but the tailfins seem like these.
Title: Re: 1949 Veritas cabriolet Spohn body - once again...
Post by: Ultra on December 30, 2009, 05:46:23 AM
;D  45 seconds, actually.
Title: Solved - NEH 1360: Spohn Veritas-BMW - 1949
Post by: Carnut on November 08, 2011, 09:29:54 AM
What's this, from when - for 1 point?
Title: Re: NEH 1360
Post by: fgsavoia on November 08, 2011, 03:41:49 PM
Spohn Veritas BMW Cabriolet (1949)
Title: Re: NEH 1360
Post by: Carnut on November 09, 2011, 04:11:04 AM
Spohn Veritas BMW Cabriolet (1949)

That's right, yes.
It's unmistakeably by Spohn (I wonder if they bought a job-lot of those fins?!) so tracing it would be easy as long as you know what Spohn creations look like.

Here's an earlier picture:
Title: Re: Solved - NEH 1360: Spohn Veritas-BMW - 1949
Post by: Otto Puzzell on November 09, 2011, 04:54:46 AM
The puzzle car was recently sold, as past of the Hartungs Museum liquidation. There is a sub-culture of conspiracy theorists those who believe that Harley Earl copied this design for the Buick Le Sabre show car.

After all it's a '49 Veritas, and the LeSabre debuted in '51, right?  ;)
Title: Re: Solved - NEH 1360: Spohn Veritas-BMW - 1949
Post by: Wendax on November 09, 2011, 05:06:24 AM
The Veritas base car is from 1949. But when were the modifications done by Spohn?
Title: Re: Solved - NEH 1360: Spohn Veritas-BMW - 1949
Post by: Otto Puzzell on November 09, 2011, 05:11:02 AM
The Veritas base car is from 1949. But when were the modifications done by Spohn?

It seems Sphon built a run of Le Sabre-inspired cars in the 1950's, on chassis from a variety of makes. I'm not sure that there is a definitive work that catalogs the years they were completed.

And to set the record straight, I am not one of those conspiracy theorists.  ;D
Title: Re: Solved - NEH 1360: Spohn Veritas-BMW - 1949
Post by: StillOutThere on June 19, 2013, 08:21:56 AM
More has been learned about Veritas Spohn Customs.  Two were built!  This is according to Lieutenant Arthur S. Cooper who was a co-owner of one of the cars and who unfortunately passed away just last month.

The subject car, originally owned by Cooper and his USAF pilot buddy, C.F. Bauer, was originally monotone Turquoise in color and had a full zebra skin interior installed at these owner's specification after a rest and relaxation hunting trip from Germany to Africa netted them several skins.  Photographic proof attached and evidence is still present in the car though the vast majority has been replaced.   Current owner of this car is the Hartung auction buyer, Dale Walksler and is being concours shown in barn find condition as well as on display at his South Carolina business.   The car has been brought up to running /driving condition.

According to Cooper they bought the car after witnessing the original Spohn livery on the Veritas Scorpion be destroyed during race competition by a roll over accident.

The second Veritas Spohn Custom was constructed in largely similar dimensions but the circumstances, colors and other details are not clear as yet and now may never be known.

Title: Re: 1949 Veritas cabriolet Spohn body - once again...
Post by: Wendax on April 23, 2020, 01:00:01 PM
Two more pictures:
Title: Re: 1949 Veritas cabriolet Spohn body - once again...
Post by: Wendax on June 21, 2021, 11:57:04 AM
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