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Title: F#2 - Re-Solved - 1924 Collet-Anzani
Post by: faksta on December 05, 2008, 12:32:03 PM: Name the car and get one point.
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Post by: faksta on December 13, 2008, 09:08:38 AM: Moved for Experts...
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Post by: Joao Gois on December 15, 2008, 10:20:43 AM: Amilcar?
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Post by: faksta on December 15, 2008, 10:24:12 AM: No, not Amilcar
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Post by: Joao Gois on December 16, 2008, 05:30:53 AM: But French?
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Post by: faksta on December 16, 2008, 06:42:38 AM: Not French
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Post by: Joao Gois on December 16, 2008, 07:37:49 AM: Italian then?
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Post by: faksta on December 16, 2008, 07:41:14 AM: Italian is right.
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Post by: Allan L on December 16, 2008, 09:32:25 AM: Is it a Chiribiri?
Possible a Monza Corsa, if so.
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Post by: faksta on December 16, 2008, 11:35:23 AM: Nope, not Chiribiri.
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Post by: Allan L on December 19, 2008, 01:16:17 PM: Diatto?
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Post by: faksta on December 19, 2008, 01:19:10 PM: It doesn't carry Diatto badge, nope.
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Post by: Allan L on December 19, 2008, 02:01:43 PM: Quote from: faksta on December 19, 2008, 01:19:10 PM
It doesn't carry Diatto badge, nope.
Do you mean that it's a Diatto but called something else?
Wrong radiator for the first Maserati.
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Post by: faksta on December 19, 2008, 02:52:53 PM: No, sorry, I meant it is not Diatto at all.
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Post by: faksta on December 21, 2008, 07:45:28 AM: Any guesses, Pros?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on January 19, 2009, 05:38:13 PM: I suppose it's not a Fiat 501 with those wheels so...is this a Camen 1000 Sport from 1926-27?
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Post by: faksta on January 20, 2009, 06:28:34 AM: Not Camen also.
Hint: the company is better known for another vehicles and engines...
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Post by: Paul Jaray on March 21, 2009, 07:13:42 AM: Bianchi 2 litre sport from 1923?
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Post by: faksta on March 21, 2009, 07:30:27 AM: No, 2 liter engine is a bit big for this car ;)
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Post by: Paul Jaray on March 21, 2009, 07:49:36 AM: But is it a Bianchi?
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Post by: faksta on March 21, 2009, 08:37:57 AM: No, not Bianchi.
You know, your 1923 guess was rather accurate.
Also I'd like to note that the company had plants in 3 countries, although the founder was Italian. From what I've found recently, Goao Gois was partly right about France.
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Post by: Paul Jaray on March 21, 2009, 08:48:59 AM: Anzani!
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Post by: faksta on March 21, 2009, 08:51:31 AM: Yes. I'm not sure about the model name though, because it most often is not specified, but this picture I have as Anzani Special.
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Post by: Paul Jaray on March 21, 2009, 09:00:40 AM: In each book I have there is only Anzani Cyclecar, 1098cc, 1923-1924 except the Beaulieu:
Anzani: See Mauve (F)
Mauve:
Eugène Mauve built nad raced the Elfe cyclecar from 1919 to 1921, and the following year turned to a more conventional car powered by a 1086cc single-ohc 4-cylinder anzani engine. He raced the first under the Anzani or Mauve-Anzani, which as led to Anzani being listed as a make of car. Production cars, however, were always called Mauve...(...).

but in the "New Encyclopedia":
ANZANI (I) 1923-1924
Motocicli e motori Anzani, Milan
(....) A factory was opened in France, and Anzani engines were also made in England by the British Anzani Company.(....)
Alessandro Anzani himself settled in France, near Caen, and altough no car appeared after 1924, proprietary engines bearing the name were produced until the 1930s, and after WWII in England.

I don't know why there is nothing about Alessandro Anzani in the Beaulieu, but I have listed this car as an Anzani Cyclecar...and other sources reported his activity in Italy, France and England as engine supplier (England) and builder of cyclecars (Italy) and light 2-cylinder cyclecars (France).
Finally I have a good picture of this Anzani Special!
Title: Re: F#2 - Solved - 1924 Anzani Special
Post by: Paul Jaray on March 21, 2009, 09:30:54 AM: I think we are wrong :-\
This one is a French Collet-Anzani 1100 Sport.
I'll post a picture from an encyclopedia of the 70s.
Title: Re: F#2 - Re-Solved - 1924 Collet-Anzani
Post by: faksta on March 21, 2009, 09:53:57 AM: It says 1927...
Collet Anzani request showed some interesting links. One of them seemingly was a source for the picture in puzzle (I remember the page), but there is clearly written Anzani Collet. I couldn't just think that it's wrong and write my own Anzani Special for the car, so maybe they've changed the info or something else... I don't even know.
But Collet Anzani looks logical, especially after this picture.
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Post by: Paul Jaray on March 21, 2009, 09:57:45 AM: I found those pages too, and in one of them there is the story of this Collet-anzani car with some pictures, in another, the picture of the quiz and other cars and a generic Anzani Spezial definition.
Collet-Anzani were from 1923-1925, I know from my encyclopedia it seems from 1927, but then in the text there are these years.