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Title: Near Mint – Solved by Many!
Post by: Allemano on July 22, 2009, 07:08:10 AM
Twenty cars in "near mint" condition.
I took a couple of easy ones and a bunch of rather difficult!
Are you man enough to identify them?  :D (I'm quite sure there will be enough left for Professionals.)
As usual one point for each.
Points will awarded when everything's cleaned up!

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/pan1968/Near%20Mint/dusty_01.jpg)
1963 Willys Capeta

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/pan1968/Near%20Mint/dusty_02.jpg)
Edmond Pery's DKW/Auto-Union based 'Casino Pery'

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/pan1968/Near%20Mint/dusty_03.jpg)
Bentley Cresta MK VI by Facel Farina

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/pan1968/Near%20Mint/dusty_04.jpg)
Bizzarini Manta

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/pan1968/Near%20Mint/dusty_05.jpg)
Hispano-Aleman Castilla

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/pan1968/Near%20Mint/dusty_06.jpg)
Cisitalia 33 DF Coupé

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/pan1968/Near%20Mint/dusty_07.jpg)
1955 Fiat 1100 Familiare by Viotti

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/pan1968/Near%20Mint/dusty_08.jpg)
Fiat OSCA 1500 Coupé by Michelotti

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/pan1968/Near%20Mint/dusty_09.jpg)
Hansa 1300 by Frua

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/pan1968/Near%20Mint/dusty_10.jpg)
Ghia Mercedes-Benz 300

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/pan1968/Near%20Mint/dusty_11.jpg)
Jaguar XK120 John Blythe Coupé

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/pan1968/Near%20Mint/dusty_12.jpg)
Panther Lazer

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/pan1968/Near%20Mint/dusty_13.jpg)
OSCA MV 1700 GTZ Spyder by Zagato

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/pan1968/Near%20Mint/dusty_14.jpg)
Rocaboy et Kirchner RK200

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/pan1968/Near%20Mint/dusty_15.jpg)
Corver Serra Seat 600

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/pan1968/Near%20Mint/dusty_16.jpg)
Francisco Ejarque's car

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/pan1968/Near%20Mint/dusty_17.jpg)
Sipani Montana

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/pan1968/Near%20Mint/dusty_18.jpg)
TVR Tina Coupé

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/pan1968/Near%20Mint/dusty_19.jpg)
VW Toro Coupé

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/pan1968/Near%20Mint/dusty_20.jpg)
Wendax WS750
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Octavia on July 22, 2009, 07:36:07 AM
NM02 Troll - got to be worth a go !
NM05 Lotus Europa variant
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Allemano on July 22, 2009, 07:37:14 AM
Quote from: Octavia on July 22, 2009, 07:36:07 AM
NM05 Lotus Europa varent
No! ;)
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Allemano on July 22, 2009, 07:38:10 AM
Quote from: Octavia on July 22, 2009, 07:36:07 AM
NM02 Troll
No!
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Carnut on July 23, 2009, 08:17:40 AM
NM 04 is the Bizzarini Manta, the first concept car produced by Giugiaro when he founded his new Ital Design company.
NM 16 I think is a Gilbern?
NM 18 is the (only) TVR Tina Coupe
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Allemano on July 23, 2009, 08:29:31 AM
All correct guesses are listed here:

NM_01: 1963 Willys Capeta (João)

NM_02: 1959 Edmond Pery's DKW/Auto-Union based 'Casino Pery' (75america)

NM_03: 1948 Bentley Cresta MK VI by Facel Farina (João)

NM_04: Bizzarini Manta (Carnut)

NM_05: Hispano-Aleman Castilla (Djetset)

NM_06: Cisitalia 33 DF Coupé (75america)

NM_07: 1955 Fiat 1100 Familiare by Viotti (João)

NM_08: Fiat OSCA 1500 Coupé by Michelotti (João)

NM_09: Hansa 1300 by Frua (guido66)

NM_10: 1956 Ghia Mercedes-Benz 300 (João)

NM_11: Jaguar XK120 John Blythe Coupé (João Gois)

NM_12: Panther Lazer (studhamsmudger)

NM_13: 1965 Zagato OSCA MV 1700 GTZ Spyder (João)

NM_14: Rocaboy et Kirchner RK200 (75america)

NM_15: Corver Serra Seat 600 (João)

NM_16: Francisco Ejarque (Paul Jaray)

NM_17: Sipani Montana (studhamsmudger)

NM_18: TVR Tina Coupé (Carnut)

NM_19: VW Toro Coupé (Djetset)

NM_20: Wendax WS750 (guido66)
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Allemano on July 23, 2009, 08:32:05 AM
Quote from: Carnut on July 23, 2009, 08:17:40 AM
NM 04 is the Bizzarini Manta, the first concept car produced by Giugiaro when he founded his new Ital Design company.
NM 16 I think is a Gilbern?
NM 18 is the (only) TVR Tina Coupe

You're correct on NM_04 and on NM_18, but NM_16 is not the Gilbern T-11 (I suppose you've meant that;))
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Allemano on July 27, 2009, 12:47:49 PM
Expertise!
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: João on July 27, 2009, 01:08:08 PM
Number 1 - My friend and now saved ,,,1963 Willys Capeta ( Devil in english )
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: studhamsmudger on July 27, 2009, 01:10:25 PM
Number 12 - Panther Lazer
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Allemano on July 27, 2009, 01:11:58 PM
Yes and Yes!  :)
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: João on July 27, 2009, 01:14:09 PM
Number 10 - 1956 Mercedes-Benz 300 by Ghia
Number 13- 1965 Zagato OSCA MV 1700 GTZ Spyder
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Allemano on July 27, 2009, 01:16:39 PM
correct again!

If possible do not edit you guesses, but post new ones. Otherwise it's a little chaotic to follow the score.  ;)
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: João on July 27, 2009, 01:22:05 PM
Number 3 - 1948 Bentley Cresta MK VI by Facel Farina
Number 7 - 1955 Fiat 1100 Giardinetta by Viotti
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Allemano on July 27, 2009, 01:23:34 PM
Quote from: João on July 27, 2009, 01:22:05 PM
Number 3 - 1948 Bentley Cresta MK VI by Facel Farina
Number 7 - 1955 Fiat 1100 Giardinetta by Viotti
:)
I've the name 'Familiare' instead of 'Giardinetta', but it's the same car you have in mind I guess.
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: studhamsmudger on July 27, 2009, 01:37:07 PM
Is Number 17 a Sipani Montana?
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: João on July 27, 2009, 01:41:45 PM
Number 8 - Fiat OSCA 1500 Coupé by Michelotti.

Yes,I almost put Familiare,but I found this catalog pic.
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Allemano on July 27, 2009, 01:42:15 PM
Quote from: studhamsmudger on July 27, 2009, 01:37:07 PM
Is Number 17 a Sipani Montana?
  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Allemano on July 27, 2009, 01:43:18 PM
Quote from: João on July 27, 2009, 01:41:45 PM
Number 8 - Fiat OSCA 1500 Coupé by Michelotti.
Correct again!

I'm afraid I'm running out of easy ones...
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: 75america on July 27, 2009, 02:11:03 PM
NM_06: Cisitalia 33 DF coupé
NM_14: Rocaboy et Kirchner RK200
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Allemano on July 27, 2009, 04:11:35 PM
Quote from: 75america on July 27, 2009, 02:11:03 PM
NM_06: Cisitalia 33 DF coupé
NM_14: Rocaboy et Kirchner RK200
correct!
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: guido66 on July 27, 2009, 04:37:23 PM
NM_20 Wendax WS750
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: João on July 27, 2009, 06:49:31 PM
Number 15 - It´s a Fiat Abarth Spyder by Zagato?
Number 16 - It´s a Lamborghini Urraco bodyshell?
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Allemano on July 28, 2009, 04:39:53 AM
Quote from: guido66 on July 27, 2009, 04:37:23 PM
NM_20 Wendax WS750
:thumbsup:
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Allemano on July 28, 2009, 04:41:56 AM
Quote from: João on July 27, 2009, 06:49:31 PM
Number 15 - It´s a Fiat Abarth Spyder by Zagato?
Number 16 - It´s a Lamborghini Urraco bodyshell?

 :shakehead:  :shakehead:
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Joao Gois on July 28, 2009, 12:20:28 PM
NM_05 - Lotus Europa
NM_11 - Jaguar E-Type Coupe special (can't remember the coachbuilder / body maker but I'll have a name tonight, as soon as I get to my DB)
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Allemano on July 28, 2009, 12:24:31 PM
Quote from: Joao Gois on July 28, 2009, 12:20:28 PM
NM_05 - Lotus Europa
NM_11 - Jaguar E-Type Coupe special (can't remember the coachbuilder / body maker but I'll have a name tonight, as soon as I get to my DB)
One of the first guesses was NM_05 = Lotus Elan, but I have to repeat that it's not the correct answer.
It's indeed a Jaguar, but not an E-Type special...
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: faksta on July 28, 2009, 01:56:40 PM
Would Maserati Khamsin be too easy for #16?
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Djetset on July 28, 2009, 04:10:23 PM
One of the best puzzles I've seen for ages.  Well done.   ;D   Here's my small contribution to some answers;

NM05:  Hispano-Aleman Castilla
NM09:  Isuzu Bellel
NM16:  Lamborghini Urraco
NM19:  Toro Coupe (VW-based, made in the Philipines)
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Allemano on July 28, 2009, 05:12:50 PM
Quote from: Djetset on July 28, 2009, 04:10:23 PM
One of the best puzzles I've seen for ages.  Well done.   ;D   Here's my small contribution to some answers;

NM05:  Hispano-Aleman Castilla 
NM09:  Isuzu Bellel 
NM16:  Lamborghini Urraco 
NM19:  Toro Coupe (VW-based, made in the Philipines) 
NM05:  Hispano-Aleman Castilla  :)
NM09:  Isuzu Bellel (Bellet?) :(
NM16:  Lamborghini Urraco  :(
NM19:  Toro Coupe (VW-based, made in the Philipines)  :)
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Joao Gois on July 29, 2009, 07:47:17 PM
Totally right! NM11 is the Jaguar XK120 John Blythe Coupé!! Duuuuh! ;D
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Allemano on July 30, 2009, 03:12:38 AM
Quote from: Joao Gois on July 29, 2009, 07:47:17 PM
Totally right! NM11 is the Jaguar XK120 John Blythe Coupé!! Duuuuh! ;D
:)
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: shamrock on July 30, 2009, 03:52:47 AM
15, is a fiat 850 spyder by bertone
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Allemano on July 30, 2009, 03:54:51 AM
Quote from: shamrock on July 30, 2009, 03:52:47 AM
15, is a fiat 850 spyder by bertone
That would be too easy.. ;)
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Allemano on July 30, 2009, 05:11:50 AM
Not too many left for Pros, but guess they will clean up the remaining four.
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: DynaMike on July 30, 2009, 07:32:12 AM
I think that NM15 might be a Seat 600 with Milton body.
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Allemano on July 30, 2009, 07:43:53 AM
Quote from: DynaMike on July 30, 2009, 07:32:12 AM
I think that NM15 might be a Seat 600 with Milton body.
Very close, but no! Not this one...
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Paul Jaray on July 30, 2009, 11:19:04 AM
#16 MC2 by Francisco Ejarque
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Allemano on July 30, 2009, 12:03:41 PM
I knew you know this!  :thumbsup:
Do you know if it ever was completed? It must have been a great looking car!

The hardest one is already solved I guessed!  :-\
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Paul Jaray on July 30, 2009, 12:07:21 PM
I looked in the site where this car was shown but it is not been updated since June 2007.. :-\ and this was the last stage:
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Allemano on July 30, 2009, 12:10:02 PM
Yes it's from the same source I have. I couldn't figure out if this is a restauration project of a formerly completed car or if it never was finished.. ???
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: João on August 11, 2009, 09:13:48 PM
And number #15 is the 1966 Seat 600 made by Corver-Serra! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Allemano on August 12, 2009, 01:56:58 AM
Quote from: João on August 11, 2009, 09:13:48 PM
And number #15 is the 1966 Seat 600 made by Corver-Serra! ;D ;D

Correct!
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Paul Jaray on August 22, 2009, 06:13:44 PM
Is the missing one Spanish?
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Allemano on August 23, 2009, 03:18:30 AM
Which one? There are still two cars unsolved.
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Paul Jaray on August 23, 2009, 05:50:32 AM
#9 , because I think #2 is a rebodied Simca, or something like that.
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Allemano on August 23, 2009, 11:09:00 AM
Maybe you're a little upset now, but to be honest: neither #9 nor #2 are from Spain. ;D
BTW: #2 is not a rebodied Simca or something like that..
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Paul Jaray on August 23, 2009, 11:10:21 AM
Perfect!
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: guido66 on September 23, 2009, 02:25:09 PM
Is #9 from Japan?
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: DynaMike on September 23, 2009, 02:37:02 PM
Or is there a link between #9 and BMC ? Somehow it looks like being based on a Farina model (Oxford/cambridge)...
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Allemano on September 23, 2009, 02:51:12 PM
Not from GB and no Farina connection. (in any way)
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: DynaMike on September 23, 2009, 03:28:56 PM
Maybe a connection with Glas or BMW?
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Allemano on September 23, 2009, 03:30:50 PM
Not that...
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: guido66 on September 23, 2009, 05:02:36 PM
Quote from: guido66 on September 23, 2009, 02:25:09 PM
Is #9 from Japan?

 ??? ;)
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Allemano on September 23, 2009, 05:12:08 PM
sorry, not Japanese!
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: João on September 23, 2009, 05:21:31 PM
Number 9 is argentinian?
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Allemano on September 24, 2009, 12:44:21 AM
Not Argentinian..
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: João on November 04, 2009, 10:17:24 PM
Number #2 is a Radovitch Peugeot?
Number #9 is Italian?
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Allemano on November 05, 2009, 12:38:40 AM
#2 is not a Radovitch Peugeot, but it's at least from one of the french speaking countries...

#9 is not Italian, but at least an Italian designer was involved...

 ;)
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Allemano on November 24, 2009, 07:13:12 AM
about car#9: If you're not only car-orientated this might be a BIG hint for you..

Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Allemano on November 24, 2009, 08:25:40 AM
and for car #2 another view may interest you
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: guido66 on November 24, 2009, 04:53:05 PM
Quote from: Allemano on November 24, 2009, 07:13:12 AM
about car#9: If you're not only car-orientadet this may be a BIG hint for you..



A griffin logo? Vauxhall?
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Allemano on November 24, 2009, 04:55:25 PM
Quote from: Allemano on November 24, 2009, 07:13:12 AM
about car#9: If you're not only car-orientated this may be a BIG hint for you..
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Paul Jaray on November 25, 2009, 03:24:56 PM
#9 - Hansa 1100?
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Allemano on November 25, 2009, 04:39:56 PM
you're almost there...
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Paul Jaray on November 25, 2009, 05:00:53 PM
I was afraid of that...
Well is it an Hansa, and the last known model was a 1100...but I see it's quite different...
Is it from Argentina?
My guess is Hansa 2300.
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Allemano on November 25, 2009, 05:16:04 PM
If you read the last posts carefully you should be able to find the right car
Not Argentina, no 2300.

Hope you don't mind that it's still open for all..  :-\

Did you need the logo clue?  ;)
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Paul Jaray on November 25, 2009, 05:19:05 PM
Oops...
There is a Bertone Borgward Hansa by Michelotti...is this?
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Allemano on November 25, 2009, 05:19:50 PM
it's getting warmer..
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Paul Jaray on November 25, 2009, 05:29:39 PM
Which part is wrong?
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Allemano on November 25, 2009, 05:35:25 PM
It is a Hansa, but you haven't found the right model, yet.
It was designed by an Italian, but not by those you've mentioned.
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: guido66 on November 25, 2009, 05:37:15 PM
Hansa 1300 by Frua
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Paul Jaray on November 25, 2009, 05:40:44 PM
 :faint:
How many times did I see this!
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Allemano on November 25, 2009, 05:41:09 PM
Quote from: guido66 on November 25, 2009, 05:37:15 PM
Hansa 1300 by Frua
:applause: :applause:
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Allemano on November 25, 2009, 05:43:37 PM
Solve the last one Paul and the night is your friend! ;)
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: João on November 25, 2009, 05:54:56 PM
It´s a Citroën with belgian body?
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Allemano on November 25, 2009, 05:56:38 PM
Belgian body is correct!
But it's not a Citroën..
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Paul Jaray on November 25, 2009, 06:08:21 PM
D'Ieteren?
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Allemano on November 25, 2009, 06:56:12 PM
Not D'Ieteren.
This car was made before the builder/designer launched his own company..
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Paul Jaray on November 25, 2009, 07:06:56 PM
...sounds like Apal...
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Allemano on November 25, 2009, 07:12:45 PM
Oh yes..
Now you're on the right trace...
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: João on November 25, 2009, 08:31:19 PM
Apal - 1959 made by Edmond Perry on an Auto Union chassis!
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Allemano on November 26, 2009, 12:50:36 AM
Quote from: João on November 25, 2009, 08:31:19 PM
Apal - 1959 made by Edmond Perry on an Auto Union chassis!
That's the car! :applause:  :applause:
It's indeed made by Edmond Perry and based on a Auto-Union
But it is not an Apal as the brand was founded not until 1961. Appearantly they gave the car a certain name!
Locked for you for 24h
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: João on November 26, 2009, 07:40:39 AM
I found that it also could be 1958,but a name...... :-\

Let´s try Pery Auto Union?
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Allemano on November 26, 2009, 07:45:16 AM
The name Perry is part of the name, but the other part has nothing to do with cars.
It's quite glamerous, though..
I've found it in one source on the internet and got a confirmation for it..
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: guido66 on November 26, 2009, 07:58:25 AM
I do believe it's Pery (like Paul spells it) and not Perry.
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Allemano on November 26, 2009, 08:04:52 AM
Okay. Found both spellings, but I think you should know what's right! ;)
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Allemano on November 27, 2009, 12:33:47 PM
hurry up João ;) but I think I'll give you a point anyway..
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Paul Jaray on November 27, 2009, 12:40:48 PM
Well, now is too easy...
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: 75america on November 27, 2009, 12:45:33 PM
BTW: On what Auto Union is this car based because I believe there were no such things as Auto Union road cars.
It must have been a DKW.
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Allemano on November 27, 2009, 12:49:25 PM
I still need its name...
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Allemano on November 27, 2009, 12:50:17 PM
As far as I know it was based on a Auto Union 1000S
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Paul Jaray on November 27, 2009, 01:22:13 PM
I thought it was easier...the only model I was able to find was a VW-based GT tuned by Okrasa, that is quite different...
BTW, this is how it looks inside, where you can read 3=6 :
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: 75america on November 27, 2009, 01:33:54 PM
I believe 'Casino-Pery' is the name you are looking for
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: João on November 27, 2009, 01:43:08 PM
That one is hard! I can´t find anything else.. :-\.....open for all ;)
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Allemano on November 27, 2009, 01:45:11 PM
Quote from: 75america on November 27, 2009, 01:33:54 PM
I believe 'Casino-Pery' is the name you are looking for

What you believe is right!  :applause:

Another one's gone!
Points will be awarded later.
Will enjoy the Friday night on some other place...
Title: Re: Near Mint
Post by: Allemano on November 27, 2009, 02:06:26 PM
If I haven't made any mistake the score is as follows:

Joao 7 pts
75america 3 pts
Carnut 2 pts
Djetset 2 pts
guido66 2 pts
studhamsmudger 2 pts
Paul Jaray 1 pt
Joao Gois 1 pt
Title: Re: Near Mint – Solved by Many!
Post by: sixtee5cuda on August 13, 2017, 10:58:09 AM
Sadly, Photobucket has killed most of the original images in this puzzle.
Title: Re: Near Mint – Solved by Many!
Post by: Allemano on August 14, 2017, 03:42:49 AM
Will try to restore it as soon as possible.