Here you are 12 cars.
1 point for each car.
1 point for who can tell me what connect all these cars
1 point for who can tell me what connect all these cars
Exposed spoked wheels.
Good guess, but not that.
Experts?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLMGOJrvdvk
Only 1 guess in all this time?
C'mn Pros, you'll get at least the connection at once!
All Italian cars?
Y E S !
that was all.
1, big, deserved point for you.
Now it's just a matter of time...
QuoteI s There A Legacy In Autopuzzles ?
:D :D Great!!!
Hum...so lets start with I ( Italy,or Italian I believe )12: Marino Torpedo Sport del 1926 costruita a Padova ed unica esistente. ;D
A few guesses...
#1: Temperino
#2: Ceirano 150
#6: Fiat 12 Hp
#7: OM 665 "Superba"
#8: Fiat 509
Quote from: João on October 01, 2009, 06:06:54 PM
All Italian cars?
Good thing each was not American! ;D
Quote from: João on October 01, 2009, 07:43:19 PM
12: Marino Torpedo Sport del 1926 costruita a Padova ed unica esistente. ;D
Quote from: als15 on October 02, 2009, 04:07:13 AM
#1: Temperino
#2: Ceirano 150
#6: Fiat 12 Hp
#7: OM 665 "Superba"
#8: Fiat 509
#1 - not a Temperino
#2 - not a Ceirano
#6 - not a Fiat
#7 - not an OM
#8 - not a Fiat
#12 - Marino 32hp sport 1926
JoãoITA - Italian connection
João
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on October 02, 2009, 04:42:47 AM
Good thing each was not American! ;D
Almighty manufacturing empire reaps iconic cars as nonplused.
:scratch:
Was the car #12 built in 1926? :D
Yes, but it won't help you, it's been already solved!
What about the others?
(a clue, no major brands here)
H E L L O ?
(I should rename it: Is there a puzzler in autopuzzles?)
All these cars are featured in the major books, there are no Fiat, Itala, Diatto or major ones, but the minor ones are not so many.
Might as well have a go...
Is number 3 an Itala? Possible an early GP car?
Is number 4 a Chiribiri?
Since you are one of the few guessing here, I won't tell you to read my previous reply... ;D
#3 not an Itala
#4 not a Chiribiri
Here you won't find:
Ceirano
Chiribiri
Diatto
Fiat
Itala
OM
Temperino
l8: FIAM?
#8 is not a Fiam..................
Ok: not very known brands. :(
So let's do some guesses with something more obscure...
#01: A.M. (Armino Mezzo) Edit (Turin, 1924).
#07: FIAM Tipo C (Turin, 1924).
#09: IENA Tipo Spinto (Lodi, 1923).
#11: A.M. (Armino Mezzo) Motocor 7 Hp (Turin, 1920).
#01: Edit 10Hp 1924 :thumbsup:
#07: Not Fiam....
#09: IENA Tipo Spinto 1923 :thumbsup:
#11: Not Motocor...
Are these just guesses? If not, check again the numbers...
Of course... the Motocor is #10! ;)
The FIAM was actually only a guess.
#01- Edit 10Hp 1924 als15
#02-
#03-
#04-
#05-
#06-
#07-
#08-
#09- IENA Tipo Spinto 1923 als15
#10- A.M. Motocor 7 Hp 1920 als15
#11-
#12- Marino 32hp sport 1926 João
ITA- Italian connection João
Here you won't find:
Ceirano - Chiribiri - Diatto - Fiat - Itala - OM - Temperino
No one is reading between the lines?
There is a clue in my latest replies....
Is #3 a SCAT?
#3 not a SCAT
Here you won't find:
Ceirano - Chiribiri - Diatto - Fiat - Itala - OM - SCAT - Temperino
One of the touring cars from the 1920s (No 7 or 8 ) could that be an Ansaldo?
No 5: San Giusto?
No 6: Taurinia?
Are there any Ceirano-sponsored cars, like Junior or Rapid?
#5 - San Giusto Coupe 1924 :thumbsup:
#6 - Taurinia 10\12HP 1907 :thumbsup:
#7-8 not Ansaldo
#01- Edit 10Hp 1924 als15
#02-
#03-
#04-
#05- San Giusto Coupe 1924 Pnegyesi
#06- Taurinia 10\12HP 1907 Pnegyesi
#07-
#08-
#09- IENA Tipo Spinto 1923 als15
#10- A.M. Motocor 7 Hp 1920 als15
#11-
#12- Marino 32hp sport 1926 João
ITA- Italian connection João
Here you won't find:
Ansaldo - Ceirano - Chiribiri - Diatto - Fiat - Itala - Junior -OM - Rapid - SCAT - Temperino
No3: Nazzaro Tipo 2 by Felice Nazzaro
No2: FLAG touring car from around 1906?
No4: maybe a CMN racecar?
No8: could that be a FAST tourer?
#2 - Not Flag
#3 - Not Nazzaro
#4 - Not CMN
#8 - Not Fast
Here you won't find:
Ansaldo - Ceirano - Chiribiri - CMN - Diatto - Fiat - Flag - Itala - Junior -Nazzaro - OM - Rapid - SCAT - Temperino
No4: Aquila Italiana?
#4 - Not Aquila Italiana
Here you won't find:
Ansaldo - Aquila Italiana - Ceirano - Chiribiri - CMN - Diatto - Fiat - Flag - Itala - Junior -Nazzaro - OM - Rapid - SCAT - Temperino
(there are 2 big clues in my replies...are you familiar with 'master mind'?)
No3: Spa?
No3: Storero?
And maybe it is because my limited knowledge but I don't see your clues :(
#3 - not Storero
Here you won't find:
Ansaldo - Aquila Italiana - Ceirano - Chiribiri - CMN - Diatto - Fiat - Flag - Itala - Junior -Nazzaro - OM - Rapid - SCAT - Storero -Temperino
didn't mean to be offensive, but my clues are not connected to the knowledge of the cars.
If you look at the guesses and at my replies plus the 'master mind' hint, you'll see that there is a reason why I end my replies like I do...
Could perhaps #11 be a FIAM?
And no7 FAST?
Quote from: als15 on October 18, 2009, 02:09:53 PM
Could perhaps #11 be a FIAM?
:thumbsup:
Quote from: pnegyesi on October 18, 2009, 02:20:07 PM
And no7 FAST?
:thumbsdown:
#01- Edit 10Hp 1924
als15#02-
#03-
#04-
#05- San Giusto Coupe 1924
Pnegyesi#06- Taurinia 10\12HP 1907
Pnegyesi#07-
#08-
#09- IENA Tipo Spinto 1923
als15#10- A.M. Motocor 7 Hp 1920
als15#11- Fiam 700 Sport 1925
als15#12- Marino 32hp sport 1926
JoãoITA- Italian connection
JoãoHere you won't find:
Ansaldo - Aquila Italiana - Ceirano - Chiribiri - CMN - Diatto - Fiat - Flag - Itala - Junior -Nazzaro - OM - Rapid - SCAT - Storero -Temperino
Can No2 be a Fast?
#2: not a Fast
#3 - Zust 28/45?
#3 - not a Zust
Here you won't find:
Ansaldo - Aquila Italiana - Ceirano - Chiribiri - CMN - Diatto - Fiat - Flag - Itala - Junior -Nazzaro - OM - Rapid - SCAT - Storero -Temperino - Zust
Isn't Mastermind® the game plugging the right coloured pins at the right position? ;D
Yep, but the answer as to be interpreted as well...
Might car #4 be the FAST?
It is a Fast!
Do you know the model name?
Now I have it! (for the former guesses): right colour wrong position....
That was the clue.
But the only 2 cars that were right but in the wrong position were the Fiam and the Fast, and now they are bot in the right position! ;D
Quote from: Paul Jaray on October 18, 2009, 04:27:59 PM
It is a Fast!
Do you know the model name?
No >:(
I used the Mastermind trick. So the Fast had to be Car #3 or #4. And I think car #3 is older than 1919...so it had to be # 4.
Because it looks like a sportscar, my guess is that it has to be a Tipo Uno...
Number 7 is an Aurea ? Maybe a Series 500?
Quote from: 75america on October 18, 2009, 04:46:36 PM
No >:(
I used the Mastermind trick. So the Fast had to be Car #3 or #4. And I think car #3 is older than 1919...so it had to be # 4.
Because it looks like a sportscar, my guess is that it has to be a Tipo Uno...
well, you found the car, and I often filled the uncomplete answers, but ...wait a moment, Tipo Uno is correct! ;D
#7 not an Aurea
#01- Edit 10Hp 1924
als15#02-
#03-
#04- Fast Tipo Uno 1919
75america#05- San Giusto Coupe 1924
Pnegyesi#06- Taurinia 10\12HP 1907
Pnegyesi#07- SAM C25 spider 1925
João#08-
#09- IENA Tipo Spinto 1923
als15#10- A.M. Motocor 7 Hp 1920
als15#11- Fiam 700 Sport 1925
als15#12- Marino 32hp sport 1926
JoãoITA- Italian connection
JoãoHere you won't find:
Ansaldo - Aquila Italiana - Aurea - Ceirano - Chiribiri - CMN - Diatto - Fiat - Flag - Itala - Junior -Nazzaro - OM - Rapid - SCAT - Storero -Temperino - Zust
Ok,..7 it´s a SAM Spider from 1925? ;D
Yes!
#7 - SAM C25 spider 1925.
No3: Franco?
Good guess, but not a Franco.
Here you won't find:
Ansaldo - Aquila Italiana - Aurea - Ceirano - Chiribiri - CMN - Diatto - Fiat - Flag - Franco - Itala - Junior -Nazzaro - OM - Rapid - SCAT - Storero -Temperino - Zust
No3: Florentia?
Not a Florentia
Here you won't find:
Ansaldo - Aquila Italiana - Aurea - Ceirano - Chiribiri - CMN - Diatto - Fiat - Flag - Florentia - Franco - Itala - Junior -Nazzaro - OM - Rapid - SCAT - Storero -Temperino - Zust
Do we have an OTAV in this puzzle?
No 3: Maybe a DeVecchi?
#3 not a DeVecchi
No OTAV here.
Here you won't find:
Ansaldo - Aquila Italiana - Aurea - Ceirano - Chiribiri - CMN - DeVecchi - Diatto - Fiat - Flag - Florentia - Franco - Itala - Junior -Nazzaro - OM -OTAV - Rapid - SCAT - Storero -Temperino - Zust
Still trying to identify No 3. Could that be an Elka?
#3 not Elka (and not a Targa Florio racer...)
Here you won't find:
Ansaldo - Aquila Italiana - Aurea - Ceirano - Chiribiri - CMN - DeVecchi - Diatto - Elka - Fiat - Flag - Florentia - Franco - Itala - Junior -Nazzaro - OM -OTAV - Rapid - SCAT - Storero -Temperino - Zust
#3 is a Beccaria?
Not Beccaria.
Here you won't find:
Ansaldo - Aquila Italiana - Aurea - Beccaria - Ceirano - Chiribiri - CMN - DeVecchi - Diatto - Elka - Fiat - Flag - Florentia - Franco - Itala - Junior -Nazzaro - OM -OTAV - Rapid - SCAT - Storero -Temperino - Zust
No2: Barison?
Good guess, but not that.
Here you won't find:
Ansaldo - Aquila Italiana - Aurea - Barison - Beccaria - Ceirano - Chiribiri - CMN - DeVecchi - Diatto - Elka - Fiat - Flag - Florentia - Franco - Itala - Junior -Nazzaro - OM -OTAV - Rapid - SCAT - Storero -Temperino - Zust
Or maybe No2 is a Daino?
Not a Daino...
Here you won't find:
Ansaldo - Aquila Italiana - Aurea - Barison - Beccaria - Ceirano - Chiribiri - CMN - Daino - DeVecchi - Diatto - Elka - Fiat - Flag - Florentia - Franco - Itala - Junior -Nazzaro - OM -OTAV - Rapid - SCAT - Storero -Temperino - Zust
Another guess for No3: Fides?
Not Fides...
I will allow also 2 makes per guess.
Here you won't find:
Ansaldo - Aquila Italiana - Aurea - Barison - Beccaria - Ceirano - Chiribiri - CMN - Daino - DeVecchi - Diatto - Elka - Fiat - Fides - Flag - Florentia - Franco - Itala - Junior -Nazzaro - OM -OTAV - Rapid - SCAT - Storero -Temperino - Zust
Anzani? Barosso?
No&No
(the 2 guesses are fine, but matched with a car is better...)
Here you won't find:
Ansaldo - Anzani - Aquila Italiana - Aurea - Barison - Barosso - Beccaria - Ceirano - Chiribiri - CMN - Daino - DeVecchi - Diatto - Elka - Fiat - Fides - Flag - Florentia - Franco - Itala - Junior -Nazzaro - OM -OTAV - Rapid - SCAT - Storero -Temperino - Zust
#2 is a Cantono?
#3 is an Esperia?
#3 - Esperia 20hp 1908 :thumbsup:
#2 - not a Cantono
#01- Edit 10Hp 1924 als15
#02-
#03- Esperia 20hp 1908 João
#04- Fast Tipo Uno 1919 75america
#05- San Giusto Coupe 1924 Pnegyesi
#06- Taurinia 10\12HP 1907 Pnegyesi
#07- SAM C25 spider 1925 João
#08-
#09- IENA Tipo Spinto 1923 als15
#10- A.M. Motocor 7 Hp 1920 als15
#11- Fiam 700 Sport 1925 als15
#12- Marino 32hp sport 1926 João
ITA- Italian connection João
Here you won't find:
Ansaldo - Anzani - Aquila Italiana - Aurea - Barison - Barosso - Beccaria - Cantono - Ceirano - Chiribiri - CMN - Daino - DeVecchi - Diatto - Elka - Fiat - Fides - Flag - Florentia - Franco - Itala - Junior -Nazzaro - OM -OTAV - Rapid - SCAT - Storero -Temperino - Zust
#8 is a Vaghi?
#2 is a Scirea?
Nox2 (we already had the 3-wheeler Vaghi)
Here you won't find:
Ansaldo - Anzani - Aquila Italiana - Aurea - Barison - Barosso - Beccaria - Cantono - Ceirano - Chiribiri - CMN - Daino - DeVecchi - Diatto - Elka - Fiat - Fides - Flag - Florentia - Franco - Itala - Junior -Nazzaro - OM -OTAV - Rapid - SCAT - Scirea - Storero -Temperino - Vaghi - Zust
no2: Meldi?
no 8: Figari?
Nope and nope...
Ansaldo - Anzani - Aquila Italiana - Aurea - Barison - Barosso - Beccaria - Cantono - Ceirano - Chiribiri - CMN - Daino - DeVecchi - Diatto - Elka - Fiat - Fides - Figari - Flag - Florentia - Franco - Itala - Junior - Meldi - Nazzaro - OM -OTAV - Rapid - SCAT - Scirea - Storero -Temperino - Vaghi - Zust
no2: Mentaschi?
no 8: Motta and Baudo?
Man, you deserve each one of your points...
#2 not Mentaschi
#8 not Motta and Baudo
Ansaldo - Anzani - Aquila Italiana - Aurea - Barison - Barosso - Beccaria - Cantono - Ceirano - Chiribiri - CMN - Daino - DeVecchi - Diatto - Elka - Fiat - Fides - Figari - Flag - Florentia - Franco - Itala - Junior - Meldi - Mentaschi - Nazzaro - OM -OTAV - Rapid - SCAT - Scirea - Storero -Temperino - Vaghi - Zust
So # 2 must be Motta and Baudo?
That was an easy point for 75america :censored:
And No8: could it be Restelli?
#2 is a Motta & Baudo, any other detail?
#8 not a Restelli
Ansaldo - Anzani - Aquila Italiana - Aurea - Barison - Barosso - Beccaria - Cantono - Ceirano - Chiribiri - CMN - Daino - DeVecchi - Diatto - Elka - Fiat - Fides - Figari - Flag - Florentia - Franco - Itala - Junior - Meldi - Mentaschi - Nazzaro - OM -OTAV - Rapid - Restelli - SCAT - Scirea - Storero -Temperino - Vaghi - Zust
Motta and Baudo is not in the Georgano encyclopedia and was based in Turin and was fairly short-lived, making cars only in 1925
Motta and Baudo was a light car powered by a 4-cylinder Chapuis Dornier engine, with independent suspension front and rear, and a chassis sharply upsewpt at both ends. It did not go into production - from the Georgano encyclopedia which features 1924 as production year, while online sources claim 1925.
No 8: Rubino?
OK, I'll take the more complete answer. The firm can also be found under the MB name in other sources, and the engine is indeed a Chapuis Dornier 1100 or 1300.
#01- Edit 10Hp 1924 als15
#02- Motta & Baudo MB 1925 Pnegyesi
#03- Esperia 20hp 1908 João
#04- Fast Tipo Uno 1919 75america
#05- San Giusto Coupe 1924 Pnegyesi
#06- Taurinia 10\12HP 1907 Pnegyesi
#07- SAM C25 spider 1925 João
#08-
#09- IENA Tipo Spinto 1923 als15
#10- A.M. Motocor 7 Hp 1920 als15
#11- Fiam 700 Sport 1925 als15
#12- Marino 32hp sport 1926 João
ITA- Italian connection João
#8 - Not Rubino
Ansaldo - Anzani - Aquila Italiana - Aurea - Barison - Barosso - Beccaria - Cantono - Ceirano - Chiribiri - CMN - Daino - DeVecchi - Diatto - Elka - Fiat - Fides - Figari - Flag - Florentia - Franco - Itala - Junior - Meldi - Mentaschi - Nazzaro - OM -OTAV - Rapid - Restelli - Rubino - SCAT - Scirea - Storero -Temperino - Vaghi - Zust
Still trying! No8: Rombo?
The Rombo was quite a particular car.
The missing one was a small car, with a particular name, that can be somehow connected with a later, very popular, italian car.
(the 2-guesses option is still valid)
Ansaldo - Anzani - Aquila Italiana - Aurea - Barison - Barosso - Beccaria - Cantono - Ceirano - Chiribiri - CMN - Daino - DeVecchi - Diatto - Elka - Fiat - Fides - Figari - Flag - Florentia - Franco - Itala - Junior - Meldi - Mentaschi - Nazzaro - OM -OTAV - Rapid - Restelli - Rombo - Rubino - SCAT - Scirea - Storero -Temperino - Vaghi - Zust
Could this be a Prince? Or a San Giusto? I am confused by your hint
There is a spider on the radiator! :o
It´s a Spider? ;D
Quote from: pnegyesi on November 10, 2009, 02:25:41 PM
Could this be a Prince? Or a San Giusto? I am confused by your hint
Not Prince or San Giusto (that is #5 ;) )
Quote from: João on November 10, 2009, 02:34:13 PM
There is a spider on the radiator! :o
It´s a Spider? ;D
Was there such a car?
Ansaldo - Anzani - Aquila Italiana - Aurea - Barison - Barosso - Beccaria - Cantono - Ceirano - Chiribiri - CMN - Daino - DeVecchi - Diatto - Elka - Fiat - Fides - Figari - Flag - Florentia - Franco - Itala - Junior - Meldi - Mentaschi - Nazzaro - OM -OTAV - Prince - Rapid - Restelli - Rombo - Rubino - SCAT - Scirea - Storero -Temperino - Vaghi - Zust
Okay, I am getting tired, San Giusto was somehow familiar - now I know why. Sorry
My last guess for today: Blanc & Trezza from Milan
Not Blanc & Trezza (that was an electric taxi).
This one built only this car, closed soon after and is featured in the major encyclopedias.
(and I wrote that because I know you have those ones, not because it's easy...)
Ansaldo - Anzani - Aquila Italiana - Aurea - Barison - Barosso - Beccaria - Blanc & Trezza - Cantono - Ceirano - Chiribiri - CMN - Daino - DeVecchi - Diatto - Elka - Fiat - Fides - Figari - Flag - Florentia - Franco - Itala - Junior - Meldi - Mentaschi - Nazzaro - OM -OTAV - Prince - Rapid - Restelli - Rombo - Rubino - SCAT - Scirea - Storero -Temperino - Vaghi - Zust
No8: Garanzini?
Not Garanzini
Ansaldo - Anzani - Aquila Italiana - Aurea - Barison - Barosso - Beccaria - Blanc & Trezza - Cantono - Ceirano - Chiribiri - CMN - Daino - DeVecchi - Diatto - Elka - Fiat - Fides - Figari - Flag - Florentia - Franco - Garanzini - Itala - Junior - Meldi - Mentaschi - Nazzaro - OM -OTAV - Prince - Rapid - Restelli - Rombo - Rubino - SCAT - Scirea - Storero -Temperino - Vaghi - Zust
No8: Odetti?
Not Odetti.
you can also make 2 names per guess.
Ansaldo - Anzani - Aquila Italiana - Aurea - Barison - Barosso - Beccaria - Blanc & Trezza - Cantono - Ceirano - Chiribiri - CMN - Daino - DeVecchi - Diatto - Elka - Fiat - Fides - Figari - Flag - Florentia - Franco - Garanzini - Itala - Junior - Meldi - Mentaschi - Nazzaro - Odetti - OM -OTAV - Prince - Rapid - Restelli - Rombo - Rubino - SCAT - Scirea - Storero -Temperino - Vaghi - Zust
No8: SABA Stelvio?
And with that I ran out of guesses.
Not Saba.
time for an hint: this car was active only one year, late 20s..(not 29!)
Ansaldo - Anzani - Aquila Italiana - Aurea - Barison - Barosso - Beccaria - Blanc & Trezza - Cantono - Ceirano - Chiribiri - CMN - Daino - DeVecchi - Diatto - Elka - Fiat - Fides - Figari - Flag - Florentia - Franco - Garanzini - Itala - Junior - Meldi - Mentaschi - Nazzaro - Odetti - OM -OTAV - Prince - Rapid - Restelli - Rombo - Rubino - Saba -SCAT - Scirea - Storero -Temperino - Vaghi - Zust
No8: Eia?
:applause: :applause:
EIA 1928
Società Lombarda Anonima Industriale Automobili
This was a conventional 1-litre 4-cylinder car with 3-speed gearbox which never passed the prototype stage
(The Beaulieu Encyclopedia of the Automobile)
EIA
Società Lombarda Economica Industria Automobili
In 1928 presented a light car, to be produced at a rate of 10 cars per day. The protoype had 4-cylinder, side valves, 850cc (56x88 mm), three-speed gears, top speed 65-70km\h and 6-7 liters per 100 km. Torpedo should cost 12000 lire and the spider 11 000.
The word 'EIA' (such as 'Balilla') had a certain meaning in the Italy of those years, that was the meaning of one of my previous clues.
#01- Edit 10Hp 1924 als15
#02- Motta & Baudo MB 1925 Pnegyesi
#03- Esperia 20hp 1908 João
#04- Fast Tipo Uno 1919 75america
#05- San Giusto Coupe 1924 Pnegyesi
#06- Taurinia 10\12HP 1907 Pnegyesi
#07- SAM C25 spider 1925 João
#08- EIA 1928 75america
#09- IENA Tipo Spinto 1923 als15
#10- A.M. Motocor 7 Hp 1920 als15
#11- Fiam 700 Sport 1925 als15
#12- Marino 32hp sport 1926 João
ITA- Italian connection João
als15 - 4 points
João - 4 points
Pnegyesi - 3 points
75america - 2 points