PJ - 218 Is there a legacy in Autopuzzles?

Paul Jaray · November 01, 2009, 06:12:20 AM

No&No
(the 2 guesses are fine, but matched with a car is better...)
Here you won't find:
Ansaldo - Anzani - Aquila Italiana - Aurea - Barison - Barosso - Beccaria - Ceirano - Chiribiri - CMN - Daino - DeVecchi - Diatto - Elka - Fiat - Fides - Flag - Florentia - Franco - Itala - Junior -Nazzaro - OM -OTAV - Rapid - SCAT - Storero -Temperino - Zust

João · November 01, 2009, 08:08:00 AM

#2 is a Cantono?
#3 is an Esperia?

Paul Jaray · November 01, 2009, 02:49:07 PM

#3 - Esperia 20hp 1908 :thumbsup:
#2 - not a Cantono

#01- Edit 10Hp 1924 als15
#02-
#03- Esperia 20hp 1908 João
#04- Fast Tipo Uno 1919 75america
#05- San Giusto Coupe 1924 Pnegyesi
#06- Taurinia 10\12HP 1907 Pnegyesi
#07- SAM C25 spider 1925 João
#08-
#09- IENA Tipo Spinto 1923 als15
#10- A.M. Motocor 7 Hp 1920 als15
#11- Fiam 700 Sport 1925 als15
#12- Marino 32hp sport 1926 João
ITA- Italian connection João

Here you won't find:
Ansaldo - Anzani - Aquila Italiana - Aurea - Barison - Barosso - Beccaria - Cantono - Ceirano - Chiribiri - CMN - Daino - DeVecchi - Diatto - Elka - Fiat - Fides - Flag - Florentia - Franco - Itala - Junior -Nazzaro - OM -OTAV - Rapid - SCAT - Storero -Temperino - Zust

João · November 01, 2009, 03:02:07 PM

#8 is a Vaghi?
#2 is a Scirea?

Paul Jaray · November 01, 2009, 03:04:57 PM

Nox2 (we already had the 3-wheeler Vaghi)
Here you won't find:
Ansaldo - Anzani - Aquila Italiana - Aurea - Barison - Barosso - Beccaria - Cantono - Ceirano - Chiribiri - CMN - Daino - DeVecchi - Diatto - Elka - Fiat - Fides - Flag - Florentia - Franco - Itala - Junior -Nazzaro - OM -OTAV - Rapid - SCAT - Scirea - Storero -Temperino - Vaghi - Zust

pnegyesi · November 10, 2009, 11:31:42 AM

no2: Meldi?
no 8: Figari?

Paul Jaray · November 10, 2009, 12:22:16 PM

Nope and nope...

Ansaldo - Anzani - Aquila Italiana - Aurea - Barison - Barosso - Beccaria - Cantono - Ceirano - Chiribiri - CMN - Daino - DeVecchi - Diatto - Elka - Fiat - Fides - Figari - Flag - Florentia - Franco - Itala - Junior - Meldi - Nazzaro - OM -OTAV - Rapid - SCAT - Scirea - Storero -Temperino - Vaghi - Zust

pnegyesi · November 10, 2009, 12:28:32 PM

no2: Mentaschi?
no 8: Motta and Baudo?

Paul Jaray · November 10, 2009, 12:56:56 PM

Man, you deserve each one of your points...
#2 not Mentaschi
#8 not Motta and Baudo

Ansaldo - Anzani - Aquila Italiana - Aurea - Barison - Barosso - Beccaria - Cantono - Ceirano - Chiribiri - CMN - Daino - DeVecchi - Diatto - Elka - Fiat - Fides - Figari - Flag - Florentia - Franco - Itala - Junior - Meldi - Mentaschi - Nazzaro - OM -OTAV - Rapid - SCAT - Scirea - Storero -Temperino - Vaghi - Zust

75america · November 10, 2009, 12:59:10 PM

So # 2 must be Motta and Baudo?

pnegyesi · November 10, 2009, 01:01:05 PM

That was an easy point for 75america :censored:

And No8: could it be Restelli?

Paul Jaray · November 10, 2009, 01:07:34 PM

#2 is a Motta & Baudo, any other detail?
#8 not a Restelli

Ansaldo - Anzani - Aquila Italiana - Aurea - Barison - Barosso - Beccaria - Cantono - Ceirano - Chiribiri - CMN - Daino - DeVecchi - Diatto - Elka - Fiat - Fides - Figari - Flag - Florentia - Franco - Itala - Junior - Meldi - Mentaschi - Nazzaro - OM -OTAV - Rapid - Restelli - SCAT - Scirea - Storero -Temperino - Vaghi - Zust

pnegyesi · November 10, 2009, 01:09:53 PM

~~Motta and Baudo is not in the Georgano encyclopedia and was based in Turin and was fairly short-lived, making cars only in 1925~~

Motta and Baudo was a light car powered by a 4-cylinder Chapuis Dornier engine, with independent suspension front and rear, and a chassis sharply upsewpt at both ends. It did not go into production - from the Georgano encyclopedia which features 1924 as production year, while online sources claim 1925.

pnegyesi · November 10, 2009, 01:19:33 PM

No 8: Rubino?

Paul Jaray · November 10, 2009, 01:19:47 PM

OK, I'll take the more complete answer. The firm can also be found under the MB name in other sources, and the engine is indeed a Chapuis Dornier 1100 or 1300.

#01- Edit 10Hp 1924 als15
#02- Motta & Baudo MB 1925 Pnegyesi
#03- Esperia 20hp 1908 João
#04- Fast Tipo Uno 1919 75america
#05- San Giusto Coupe 1924 Pnegyesi
#06- Taurinia 10\12HP 1907 Pnegyesi
#07- SAM C25 spider 1925 João
#08-
#09- IENA Tipo Spinto 1923 als15
#10- A.M. Motocor 7 Hp 1920 als15
#11- Fiam 700 Sport 1925 als15
#12- Marino 32hp sport 1926 João
ITA- Italian connection João

Paul Jaray · November 10, 2009, 01:21:47 PM

#8 - Not Rubino

Ansaldo - Anzani - Aquila Italiana - Aurea - Barison - Barosso - Beccaria - Cantono - Ceirano - Chiribiri - CMN - Daino - DeVecchi - Diatto - Elka - Fiat - Fides - Figari - Flag - Florentia - Franco - Itala - Junior - Meldi - Mentaschi - Nazzaro - OM -OTAV - Rapid - Restelli - Rubino - SCAT - Scirea - Storero -Temperino - Vaghi - Zust

pnegyesi · November 10, 2009, 01:24:06 PM

Still trying! No8: Rombo?

Paul Jaray · November 10, 2009, 01:27:01 PM

The Rombo was quite a particular car.
The missing one was a small car, with a particular name, that can be somehow connected with a later, very popular, italian car.
(the 2-guesses option is still valid)

Ansaldo - Anzani - Aquila Italiana - Aurea - Barison - Barosso - Beccaria - Cantono - Ceirano - Chiribiri - CMN - Daino - DeVecchi - Diatto - Elka - Fiat - Fides - Figari - Flag - Florentia - Franco - Itala - Junior - Meldi - Mentaschi - Nazzaro - OM -OTAV - Rapid - Restelli - Rombo - Rubino - SCAT - Scirea - Storero -Temperino - Vaghi - Zust

pnegyesi · November 10, 2009, 02:25:41 PM

Could this be a Prince? Or a San Giusto? I am confused by your hint

João · November 10, 2009, 02:34:13 PM

There is a spider on the radiator! :o

It´s a Spider? ;D

Paul Jaray · November 10, 2009, 02:46:33 PM

Quote from: pnegyesi on November 10, 2009, 02:25:41 PM
Could this be a Prince? Or a San Giusto? I am confused by your hint

Not Prince or San Giusto (that is #5 ;) )

Quote from: João on November 10, 2009, 02:34:13 PM
There is a spider on the radiator! :o
It´s a Spider? ;D

Was there such a car?

Ansaldo - Anzani - Aquila Italiana - Aurea - Barison - Barosso - Beccaria - Cantono - Ceirano - Chiribiri - CMN - Daino - DeVecchi - Diatto - Elka - Fiat - Fides - Figari - Flag - Florentia - Franco - Itala - Junior - Meldi - Mentaschi - Nazzaro - OM -OTAV - Prince - Rapid - Restelli - Rombo - Rubino - SCAT - Scirea - Storero -Temperino - Vaghi - Zust

pnegyesi · November 10, 2009, 02:50:08 PM

Okay, I am getting tired, San Giusto was somehow familiar - now I know why. Sorry

My last guess for today: Blanc & Trezza from Milan

Paul Jaray · November 10, 2009, 03:13:59 PM

Not Blanc & Trezza (that was an electric taxi).
This one built only this car, closed soon after and is featured in the major encyclopedias.
(and I wrote that because I know you have those ones, not because it's easy...)

Ansaldo - Anzani - Aquila Italiana - Aurea - Barison - Barosso - Beccaria - Blanc & Trezza - Cantono - Ceirano - Chiribiri - CMN - Daino - DeVecchi - Diatto - Elka - Fiat - Fides - Figari - Flag - Florentia - Franco - Itala - Junior - Meldi - Mentaschi - Nazzaro - OM -OTAV - Prince - Rapid - Restelli - Rombo - Rubino - SCAT - Scirea - Storero -Temperino - Vaghi - Zust

pnegyesi · November 20, 2009, 12:26:09 AM

No8: Garanzini?

Paul Jaray · November 20, 2009, 06:04:02 AM

Not Garanzini

Ansaldo - Anzani - Aquila Italiana - Aurea - Barison - Barosso - Beccaria - Blanc & Trezza - Cantono - Ceirano - Chiribiri - CMN - Daino - DeVecchi - Diatto - Elka - Fiat - Fides - Figari - Flag - Florentia - Franco - Garanzini - Itala - Junior - Meldi - Mentaschi - Nazzaro - OM -OTAV - Prince - Rapid - Restelli - Rombo - Rubino - SCAT - Scirea - Storero -Temperino - Vaghi - Zust

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