Here's my first group puzzle.
First, some guidelines:
- it is not enough to idenfity the cars, you are better off finding the connection first
- to get one point, you need to tell me the make, model and the reason why it is part of this puzzle
- the order of the cars is also relevant. If you realize why, it will be a bit easier to solve the puzzles
This puzzle is not perfect, I had to relax my own rules a bit on three occasions. I don't think it will cause chaos, but we will see :)!
I have also tried to avoid reposts. When it was not possible, I chose a different model from the company which was already featured. So I hope all of these cars are appearing for the first time on AutoPuzzles.
Part 2
3rd and final batch
Here are the solutions:
No 1: Moustique, cca 1925 made in Brussels, Belgium - Faksta
No 2: Kevah cyclecar, cca 1923 made in Paris, France - ftg3plus4
No 3: Puma Gatto Spyder, made in Rome, Italy - Paul Jaray
No 4: MDI Taxicat made in Luxembourg - 75america
No 5: Ruska Regina made in Astermdam, The Netherlands - guido66
No 6: Ego 4/14 PS, 1922 made in Berlin, Germany - Faksta
No 7: Hammel, 1888 made in Copenhagen, Denmark - Joao
No 8: Thomond No2, cca 1929 made in Dublin, Ireland - ftg3plus4
No 9: Bersey Electric Cab, 1897 made in London,England - Joao
No 10: Tzen, 1970 made in Athens, Greece - 75america
No 11: Roa, 1960 made in Madrid, Spain - Joao
No 12: AG Traction Volumax, 1998 made in Lisboa, Portugal- 75america
No 13: Gräf&Stift Voiturette, 1897-1898, made in Wien, Austria - the world's first front-wheel-drive automobile. - Paul Jaray
No 14: Gurik, 1907 made in Stockholm, Sweden - 75america
No 15: Teijo Monika, 1980 made in Finnland - Joao
No 16: Carol Galea Special, made in Malta - Joao
No 17: Douglas TF, 1992 made in Cyprus - guido66 - I don't know the city where it was built, so this is one of the exceptions.
No 18: Victor BMW 328, made in Ljubljana, Slovenia - 75america
No 19: Estonia 2, made in Tallin, Estonia - 75america
No 20:Leutner Rossija, 1899 made in Riga, Russian Empire then, Latvia nowadays - Faksta
No 21: Lada VFTS made in Vilnius, Lithuania - 75america
No 22: Wadera (based on a Fiat 126p which is known as Maluch in Polish) by Metal-Incar. Made in Warsaw, Poland between 1994-1997. Later its production was taken over by a company, called Bartek. - guido66
No 23: 1930 Walter Super 6B made in Praha-Jinonice, Czechoslovakia - Joao
No 24: BAZ MNA 1000 made in Bratislava, Slovakia - Joao and 75america - I have a light heart. Hope you don't mind.
No 25: MÁG Magomobil Postal van, cca 1925 - made in Budapest, Hungary - Joao
No 26: Velizar Andreev's Vilicar, 1990 made in Sofia, Bulgaria - 75america
No 27: Rocar TV12F made in Bucharest, Romania - 75america
Here's the final score
Faksta: 3 points
Ftg3plus4: 2 points
Paul Jaray: 2 points
guido66: 3 points
Joao: 8 points
75america: 10 points
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Before I start: Are there 27 letters in the Hungarian alphabet? ;)
No, that's not the connection.
27 - try to think about that.
from 27 different countries?
Yes, 27 different countries but there's something which connects these countries - and this is only part of the connection
The European continent? :D
European...
URSS cars?
#8 is Thomond No. 2 from Ireland.
Number 24: BAZ MNA 1000 from 1989...(Slovakia)
Though the cars are identified alright, one element is missing. Joao is almost there with Slovakia, and Ireland is fine as well - I just need one more thing.
I told you, first realize the connection 8)
Quote from: pnegyesi on October 13, 2009, 03:54:38 PM
I told you, first realize the connection 8)
27 members of the European Union?
Yes, that's the deal. Each member country is represented by a car. The order is also not accidental - you have to study the EU's story a bit. But without figuring out the order, you can identify the cars.
Now, in addition to identifying the member state, I need one additional tiny element . It is not so difficult either :)
Does it have anything to do with the order in which the countries joined the EU?
Car #10 is the Greek Tzen sports car from 1970
#2 is the Kevah Type E cyclecar from France.
Car #21 is a Lada Sport Group B rally car made in Togliatti... But the car did race in Finland and Estonia.
3: Apal buggy from Belgium?
5: Ruska Classica from the Netherlands?
Hmmmmm
Yes, the order is based on when the countries joined the EU
As for identifying the cars.
8, 24, 10, 2, 5 are partially complete.
As I said there's one more thing which would be nice to be added to each identification.
The country and one more thing. I think I was clear enough that I will only award points when everything is in place.
From the identified cars so far, No8 is one of the three exceptions.
It sounds like you mean #21 is complete, so... city where it was made?
By excluding #3 from your list, are you saying it's complete or incorrect?
It wasn't that difficult, was it? Yes, the city is quite important (in 24 of 27 cases, it is the capital)
So to get a point you have to give me make, model, country, city
Now as for the cars. Number 3 is incocrrect, and number 21 - well, it is obviously a Lada, but Russia is not a member of the EU....
Well, then, here you go:
#2 - Kevah Type E cyclecar from France (Paris)
#8 - Thomond No. 2 from Ireland (Dublin)
You said #8 was an exception to the rule, but the information I have (which comes from the very family that built the car) says the Thomond was built in Dublin (the capitol of Ireland). I can point you to the source (privately) if need be, because if your info says something else I have to question it.
Oops, sorry, I stand corrected, Thomond was built in Dublin so it is not one of the three exceptions.
I will edit the post after the pictures so that's where the solutions will be featured.
Quote from: 75america on October 13, 2009, 04:09:52 PM
Car #10 is the Greek Tzen sports car from 1970
So: Car #10 Tzen sports car from Athens
Yep, that's the one
Quote from: pnegyesi on October 14, 2009, 08:12:55 AM
number 21 - well, it is obviously a Lada, but Russia is not a member of the EU....
I still believe that this particular Lada was made in Togliatti. But there were also some Lada VFTS (Zhiguli 2105) cars made or at least modified in Vilnius.
Well, this particular car was featured in an English-language VFTS brochure, so yes, this is a Lada - modified by VFTS in Vilnius, Lithuania.
Car #4: MDI Citycat taxi from Luxembourg
Another one solved...
Quote from: pnegyesi on October 13, 2009, 11:28:34 AM
Here are the solutions:
No2: Kevah cyclecar, cca 1920 from Paris, France - ftg3plus4
No4: MDI Taxicat from Luxembourg - 75america
No8: Thomond No2, cca 1933 from Dublin, Ireland - ftg3plus4
No 10: Tzen, 1970 from Athens, Greece - 75america
No 21: Lada VFTS from Vilnius, Lithuania - 75america
BTW, the date on the Kevah is probably about 1923. The Thomond No. 2 dates from 1929 (being converted to No. 4 in 1933).
Corrected. You see this is my first group puzzle, it's not so easy....
nr5 Ruska Classica, built in Amsterdam, the Netherlands
It's a Ruska, but not a Classica.
Is # 24 a BAZ MNA 1000 as Joao mentioned, or is it a Moskvich 3733. It was made in Bratislava.
Quote from: pnegyesi on October 14, 2009, 12:02:30 PM
It's a Ruska, but not a Classica.
Indeed, it's a Regina
nr.3 Albar Buggy from Berlin, Germany?
Number 3 is not an Albar
All the others are correct.
#17: Douglas MG TF replica (based on a Triumph Herald) from Cyprus
Wow, was that really so easy?
Car #27: ARO / Rocar T.V. (Tudor Vladimirescu) from Bucharest Romania
Car #26: Vilicar Sofia from...euh...Sofia (Bulgaria)
both are correct
Car #19: Estonia 2 from ...Euh...Estonia (Tallinn)
Car #18: Victor 328 from Ljubljana (Slovenia)
Quote from: pnegyesi on October 14, 2009, 02:53:11 PM
Wow, was that really so easy?
If proved more difficult to find the city where it was made ;) I couldn't find and after an hour or so I decided to post it anyway.
guido66: Yes, unfortunately I don't know the city either
75america: two more points for you!
Pnegyesi can you make a list with the solved ones? ;D
Would be nice what you think?!
Quote from: João on October 15, 2009, 01:10:07 PM
Pnegyesi can you make a list with the solved ones? ;D
Would be nice what you think?!
He's been maintaining this in Reply #3 on page 1.
Car #12: A.G. Engineering Traction from portugal (Lisbon)
Quote from: ftg3plus4 on October 15, 2009, 01:17:32 PM
Quote from: João on October 15, 2009, 01:10:07 PM
Pnegyesi can you make a list with the solved ones? ;D
Would be nice what you think?!
He's been maintaining this in Reply #3 on page 1.
:bag: ;D
Not sure about this one but can Car # 14 be a Gurik or Gea Runabout from Stockholm (Sweden)?
75america: I have No12 as the AG Traction Volumax, but I accept the shorter solution :)
And you're right, No14 is indeed a Gurik from 1907.
PS 23 is a 1930 Walter Super 6B made in Praha-Jinonice, Czechoslovakia
Another one solved. So far so good
#7 : 1888 Hammel made in Kopenhagen,Denmark
Yes, that's the first automobile made in Denmark by Urban Johansen und Albert F. Hammel in 1888. Today it is preserved in Copenhagen at the Danish Museum of Science and Technology
#22 FSM 126 jeep from Poland (from Bielsko-Biala or Tychy)
#22 Maluch Wadera (based on a 126 of course) by Metal-Incar from Warsaw ( the car was in Germany known as Pop Wadera)
:thumbsup:
Professionals, here's your chance to fill in the blanks!
After the pictures you can see which ones have been solved.
To get a point you have to give me: make, model, city, country.
This puzzle is about the EU - 1 car/country. The order reflects the date when the countries joined the EU
#6 - Loryc from Spain?
OK, ok, no more wild guesses...
#3 Puma Buggy from Italy?
No6 is not a Loryc
No3 is indeed a Puma, but please can you be more specific? A model name would be great. Locked for you 'til your next reply
#25 - Marta form Hungary?
The Puma should be a Deserter.
Puma Gatto Spyder?
This pic cames from the original brochures that says: "Adriano Gatto presents: the Dune Buggy Puma". Some sources calls it Deserter.
#13 Graf & Stift 3 1|2hp 1895-1897, Austria
#20 - Leutner Rossija from Riga, Russian Empire then, Latvia nowadays
No3, No13 and No20 are okay, while No25 is indeed Hungarian but not a MARTA. And this picture is not in the Magyar Auto book :)
Number #9: 1897 Bersey Electric Cab made in London,England.
:thumbsup:
#25: It´s a Fejes manufactured in Budapest,Hungary ,between 1923 and 1932?
No, not Fejes
#11 is a 1960 ROA from Madrid,Spain.
#25 is a M.A.G. "Magyar Általános Gépgyár R. T. Mátyásföld Magomobil Panel truck,the most important Hungarian vehicle manufacturer before WWII, based in Budapest.
Right you are, that is a MÁG Magomobil postal van :applause:
And No 11 is also correct
#6 Fadag, Germany?
Nope, but the country is right
I don't know what #1 is, but is it from Belgium?
Yes, No 1 is from Belgium
Number one is a FN,Brussels-Belgium?
No, it is not an FN
Is #6 a Szawe from Berlin, Germany?
No, it is not a Szawe
#1 - Metallurgique from Marchienne-au-Pont, Belgium?
No, No1 is not an exception, it was made in Bruxelles (small clue :) )
:doh:
Gonna be Moustique then?
Yes, that's it :thumbsup:
I'm not sure about the model name, though. They've made a 2-cyl. mdel in 1925 and a 4-cyl. in 1927, but no model names mentioned in my source.
Could #6 be an Ego from Berlin?
It could be and it is an Ego indeed!
Only two cars left and as you can see, both are "exceptions" so these were made outside the capital of the given country.
There is a lot of snow in Malta :lmao:
That is a very good point :touched:
So one is from Malta, the other is from a country with a lot of snow.
Neither of them was built in the capital
The builder of one is still playing an important role in the local motoring scene
The other, well, it is a bit obscure. You have to search for a connection with the best-known German people's car to guess the make
Well, the pickup thing is Finnish as far as I can judge, but I couldn't find anything on it yet, as well as on the racer from Malta (hillclimb special?).
Yes, the pickup is from Finland and that special is from Malta. The caption to the latter only says that the guy who built it achieved many nice results.
So no one knows a Finn-made vehicle which was connected to a German people's car? This is not it, but you'll find it more quickly...
And how about that man in Malta who was a racer, but nowadays he's looking more into the past...?
(huge clues methinks)
Caroldisineo?
Hoooray, another one down, only one to go!!!
C'mon, there's only one left :)!
It is from Finnland. The brand made similar type of vehicles based on a German people's car and this was the prototype for its replacement, based on a Swedish car. You can find it if you research in Finnish a bit :)
Quote from: pnegyesi on November 10, 2009, 04:30:25 AM
You can find it if you research in Finnish a bit :)
That's all very well for you Hungarians!
For some of us it's a case of two impenetrable languages which may possibly be related! ;D
Korvensuu?
Finnish and Hungarian are very distantly related...
And it's not Korvensuu
Sisu?
Nope, it is not Sisu.
Last call before it is being tossed into a Black Hole
The name of the last car (not the brand name, but the model name) is a popular female name, which was also given to a French luxury-sportscar which was originally designed in UK and after years of development was presented in 1972.
This female name was used with a "c" for the French car, but it is used with a "k" for this car.
And with that we go down into the Black Hole.
Th
Quote from: pnegyesi on December 06, 2009, 12:33:06 AM
The name of the last car (not the brand name, but the model name) is a popular female name, which was also given to a French luxury-sportscar which was originally designed in UK and after years of development was presented in 1972.
This female name was used with a "c" for the French car, but it is used with a "k" for this car.
That should be Monika, then!
Sure, the name of this pickup is Monika. But which company made it? And when? And where?
Monika is a car from Suomi, correct?
Yes, we have established long time ago, that this car is from Finnland. But where (which city?) it was made? A clue: note Helsinki
something to do with W.I.I.M.A.?
Quote from: pnegyesi on December 06, 2009, 04:56:14 AM
A clue: note Helsinki
(did you mean "
note Helsinki" or "NOT Helsinki"?)
I don't think it got anything to do with WIIMA
And it's not Helsinki - sorry I was in a hurry
I'm 100% sure I've seen it somewhere else before, but I can't rember no more... >:(
browse through my clues and maybe you'll remember...
I hope this one will help you solve this in no time.
Finnish Version of the VW Bus/truck. Named Teijo. It is powered by a standard VW aircooled motor.....so it´s the Teijo Monika?
Yes, the last one is the Teijo Monika, based on a Saab. Planned replacement for the VW-based version, but it never got beyond the prototype stage.
Thanks for your participation!
Once again, here's the Final score:
Faksta: 3 points
Ftg3plus4: 2 points
Paul Jaray: 2 points
guido66: 3 points
Joao: 8 points
75america: 10 points
Solutions are featured right after the list of cars.