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Q572 - solved - 1957 Marsonetto Luciole Rallye

Started by Quiller, August 03, 2009, 05:27:45 PM

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Quiller

What's the make and model designation of this car?

Hubert


Quiller


pnegyesi

Is this French from the mid-1950s?

pnegyesi

Can this be another Marsonetto, a cca 1956 model?

Here's a later model from them:
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=6052.0

latham_f2

Ford based?

Slightly remeniscent of a Tornado, but different in the headlight area.

Possibly a Watford Cheetah?

Quiller

#6
Quote from: pnegyesi on August 24, 2009, 01:23:01 AM
Is this French from the mid-1950s?

:)

(but not Marsonetto)

Carnut

I figured with those wheels it had to be French..  Looks very Panhard-esque but have trawled through all my books and can't find anything.  I know I have a picture of it somewhere but where to find it...!
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Quiller

Have at it experts......

shamrock

4cv Berlinette Izoard Pichon - Parat  , based on a Renault 4cv , 1955.

Quiller

That's not the name I have...

pguillem

1953 Panhard Dyna X by Chapron ?

pguillem

Second guess (my best) : Panhard Luciole by Marsonetto ?

Quiller

Ahhh... some more research at my end has uncovered that this is indeed a Marsonetto, as pnegyesi and pguillem have both suggested, so apologies for putting you off the scent. Pguillem - your guess is closest but not 100% there.

I will therefore lock the puzzle for 48 hours for either pnegyesi or pguillem to come back with another try

pnegyesi

Marsonetto Luciole Rallye with Panhard Dyna engine from 1957 - according to Rene Bellu's book

pguillem

Ohh, the difference of timezones.  I'm at my office and can't do much research.  Hooray for pnyegesi anyway !

Quiller

That's correct, well done. Although it could be 4CV engined as well - Marsonetto offered the same body with either engine

DynaMike

...but I guess that the Marsonetto with Renault 4CV engine also would have had Renault wheels... And these are Panhard wheel for sure  ;)

Quiller

#18
Here are two together

faksta

Quote from: DynaMike on September 24, 2009, 11:06:57 AM
...but I guess that the Marsonetto with Renault 4CV engine also would have had Renault wheels... And these are Panhard wheel for sure  ;)

I'd say these are 4CV wheels  ???

DynaMike

They do look rather similar, both consisting of an inner and an outer part, kept together by five bolts. But the inner part of the 4CV wheels is smaller, covering even smaller brake drums, about the same size as the hubcaps. On the Panhard Dyna wheels the outer part is fixed directly to the much bigger brake drums (well visible on the left car, above), only covered usually by the hubcaps.

faksta


grobmotorix

No visible puzzle photo.

The puzzle car with the Renault 4CV-style wheels is the model LUXE.

The Rallye was the car with the flash on the sides and the Panhard-style wheels.