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Puzzles, Games and Name That Car => Solved AutoPuzzles => 2009 => Topic started by: Quiller on October 02, 2009, 10:59:35 AM

Title: Q600 - solved - 1971 Bizzarrini 128P
Post by: Quiller on October 02, 2009, 10:59:35 AM
What's the make and model designation of this car?
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Post by: Quiller on October 14, 2009, 02:48:25 PM
Up to the Xs
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Post by: Oswald on October 15, 2009, 04:10:45 AM
Bizzarrini 1900 GT?
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Post by: Quiller on October 15, 2009, 10:05:00 AM
Not that...
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Post by: Carnut on October 15, 2009, 10:16:47 AM
Must say I would have said the same thing: Bizzarrini 1900 GT Europa!
Will have to look for something else that used the same body...!
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Post by: 75america on October 15, 2009, 11:39:23 AM
Opel GT proposal by Bizzarrini?
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Post by: Carnut on October 15, 2009, 12:21:52 PM
Opel GT proposal by Bizzarrini?

The 1.9 engine in the Bizzarrini GT Europa was actually an Opel engine wasn't it?
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Post by: 75america on October 15, 2009, 12:39:21 PM

The 1.9 engine in the Bizzarrini GT Europa was actually an Opel engine wasn't it?

If I'm correct, not all of the cars were equipped with an Opel engine. 
Wasn't the car first intended to be an Opel?...therefore my guess...
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Post by: guido66 on October 15, 2009, 12:44:14 PM
The first car(s) had a Fiat engine
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Post by: Quiller on October 15, 2009, 04:04:32 PM
This is not Opel-engined ...
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Post by: Quiller on October 21, 2009, 05:06:08 PM
Proper pro pickings
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Post by: Allemano on October 21, 2009, 05:16:30 PM
There definetely was one with a BMW engine
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Post by: P132 on October 21, 2009, 05:23:43 PM
May it be the "Bizza" 1500?
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Post by: Otto Puzzell on October 22, 2009, 03:06:29 AM
An Alfa-based prototype?
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Post by: Quiller on October 22, 2009, 09:22:45 AM
This is a little-know Bizzarrini variant. Not powered by an Opel or Alfa engine, nor is this one of the early Fiat 1500-powered examples
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Post by: Allemano on October 22, 2009, 09:24:09 AM
There definetely was one with a BMW engine
Neither?
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Post by: pnegyesi on October 22, 2009, 10:32:47 AM
Could it be this one?

BIZZARRINI 5300 GT AMERICA • # BA4 201/7413
Bought by Paolo Pratali (Pisa) from the factory bankruptcy in 1972 as new rolling chassis (60 %) without engine, gearbox, interior and front body.
Car completed by Pisa mecanic and road registered with chassis number 7413/13 as a one off prototype with a Fiat 6 Cylinders 2300 cc.
1975 - Sold to a dealer who sold it to USA .
Fiat engine removed and replaced with a Chevrolet unit
Giotto Bizzarrini added a Bizzarrini chassis number "BA4 201" when the car came back from USA as it was the chassis number who belong to this car.
1980 - sold back to Italy (Mr Pratali accept to make a invoice to the italian new owner as the targa was never cancelled)
1986 - for sale in Florence .
2001 - for sale in Italy
The last Bizzarrini 5300 America Race car built.
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Post by: Paul Jaray on October 22, 2009, 10:53:11 AM
The body seems definetly the 1500/1900 one, according to the line of the side-windows continuing on the roof.
This car was equipped with Fiat and Opel engines. Your reply about Fiat engine seems vague, is there a Fiat engine?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on October 22, 2009, 10:56:02 AM
I remind a Bizzarrini with a Fiat 128 Rally engine...I'll look for more.
EDIT - nothing to do with that, but, probably, I found a full pic of this car with no details...
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Post by: Paul Jaray on October 22, 2009, 11:03:49 AM
Here you are:
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Post by: DynaMike on October 22, 2009, 11:31:54 AM
Paul, is your picture mirrored ?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on October 22, 2009, 11:37:06 AM
Nope, this is how it looks in an old encyclopedia.
I also noticed the differences...probably it was printed like that.
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Post by: Quiller on October 22, 2009, 03:41:05 PM
Hmmm, a lot to reply to here.
Not BMW-engined.
Not a 5300 GT.
Paul J has come closest....
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Post by: Arunas on October 22, 2009, 03:46:31 PM
Bizzarrini 1500 Berlinetta?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on October 22, 2009, 03:50:55 PM
Bizzarrini made 2 different cars with the Fiat 128 rally engine, the one in 1971 (the one in the puzzle) was shown at the Nardi stand and had a plastic body, the other in 1972 and was a red barchetta, with big fins.
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Post by: Quiller on October 22, 2009, 04:02:43 PM
Bizzarrini made 2 different cars with the Fiat 128 rally engine, the one in 1971 (the one in the puzzle) was shown at the Nardi stand and had a plastic body, the other in 1972 and was a red barchetta, with big fins.

That's correct - this is the Fiat 128-engined Bizzarrini as shown at the 1971 Turin show. It's sometimes called the Bizzarrini 128P and predates the more well-known barchetta.
Here's the full picture I have:
Title: Re: Q600 - solved - 1971 Bizzarrini 128P
Post by: Djetset on November 04, 2009, 02:18:15 PM
From what I gather the Bizzarrini 128P was the name given to the later barchetta-bodied car, which was fully known as the 128P Targa Florio.  This Bizzarrini seems to be called the 1300 Sport.
Title: Re: Q600 - solved - 1971 Bizzarrini 128P
Post by: Quiller on November 19, 2009, 10:19:55 AM
From what I gather the Bizzarrini 128P was the name given to the later barchetta-bodied car, which was fully known as the 128P Targa Florio.  This Bizzarrini seems to be called the 1300 Sport.

This car appears in Winston Goodfellow's Bizzarrini book on p121, and there it's captioned as the 128P.
Interestingly, it's mid-engined.
Title: Re: Q600 - solved - 1971 Bizzarrini 128P
Post by: Allemano on November 21, 2009, 07:15:12 AM
This car appears in Winston Goodfellow's Bizzarrini book on p121, and there it's captioned as the 128P.
Interestingly, it's mid-engined.

here you go: