Time for group puzzle number three! These ten cars all have something in common: They were all built, conceived and/or customised by people or companies whose main occupation is something else than building cars. The results are... erm... interesting.
So, what do you say? Do you recognise these?
#1 is an OSI Secura
#2 is the 1980 Briggs & Stratton Hybrid Concept Car
#10 Looks like a Tatra 603
Quote from: KarnUtz on April 26, 2008, 07:26:16 AM
#1 is an OSI Secura - yes! The 1965 O.S.I Quattroruote Secura, built after an idea for a safe vehicle, that Italian car magazine Quattroruote came up with.
#2 is the 1980 Briggs & Stratton Hybrid Concept Car - yes! And Briggs & Stratton normally build small engines for such appliances as lawnmowers.
#10 Looks like a Tatra 603 - it does, and that's not coincidental. But it has a different name and has been quite heavily modified - by people who don't normally build cars.
French interiors supplier Faurecia displayed that Tatra concept in Los Angeles: a stripped-out Tatra 603/2.
QuoteThe huge rear-engined luxury saloon - originating from 1972 - has had its B-pillar removed to give a clear view of the roomy cabin.
The cabin demonstrates Faurecia's process for applying 'wraparound' ultra-thin wood veneers and designs for instrument panels and seat-mountings that allow for more interior space. The shallow instrument panel, rigid enough not to need bulky cross-bracing, can dip at high-speed driving to shield the driver from non-essential information and the seats can lower with speed to enhance its effects.
Yes! But why stop with the customiser? Why not tell me the whole name of the creation for an easy point? ;)
The car is called the Faurecia Premium Attitude, and is based on a 1972 Tatra 603. There doesn't seem to be any provision for a powertrain, but this thing just screams for a Hemi...Tatras have always fascinated me, and this one is no exception. Give Karn the point.
I'm not sure, but I think # 4 might be the ASC Vision from 1985.
Dan
Quite correct in both cases. Faurecia's main focus is interior solutions, while ASC originally was short for American Sunroof Company (and that was what the company was still called when the Vision was built in 1985). Now they've changed that to American Specialty Cars, but they still mainly supply "highly engineered and designed roof systems, body systems and other specialty-vehicle systems for the world's automakers" (Wikipedia).
Which means that this is the list so far:
1 - 1965 O.S.I Quattroruote Secura (KarnUtz)
2 - 1980 Briggs & Stratton Hybrid (KarnUtz)
3 - ?
4 - 1985 ASC Vision (Tifosi)
5 - ?
6 - ?
7 - ?
8 - ?
9 - ?
10 - 2007 Faurecia Premium Attitude (KarnUtz)
#3 - Wolfrace Sonic - maker of wheels
#5 - Quaife - I don´t know what the company does
Wolfrace Sonic - yes!
Quaife - yes, but what's its name?
Tifosi should get the point for #10
You guys! You're fighting to avoid the point :)
#5 - Quaife R4 GTS
# 8 - Alpine Electronics Imprint RLS (based on Merc R500)
# 9 - Italcar T2
Right, all three - although I didn't know the third one by that name (if I had I might not have included it here). You see, it is also built by a company that is well-known for manufacturing something else than cars. Can you name it?
Quaife is a manufacturer of car parts, and Alpine makes car stereos. And, occasionally, cars :)
1 - 1965 O.S.I Quattroruote Secura (KarnUtz)
2 - 1980 Briggs & Stratton Hybrid (KarnUtz)
3 - 1981 Wolfrace Sonic (jotage21)
4 - 1985 ASC Vision (Tifosi)
5 - 1999 Quaife R4-GTS (Quiller)
6 - ?
7 - ?
8 - 2007 Alpine Imprint RLS (Quiller)
9 - Italcar T2 (Quiller) - also known as...?
10 - 2007 Faurecia Premium Attitude (Tifosi - on Mr. Utz' request)
"9 - Italcar T2 (Quiller) - also known as...?"
The parent company is called Tasso
The car is also known as something completely different, manufactured in a different country, by somebody who is more famous for building something with fewer wheels...
Two cars remaining here:
#6 is built by a company that normally doesn't build whole cars.
#7 is a backyard project by an American enthusiast, and it's not conventionally powered.
Also, I'd still like that other name of number 9. I'll say it straight out: It's also built by a company famous for building motorcycles. Better?
I've promoted this so that our Professionals will still be able to guess.
More clues:
#6: The company that has built this car normally focuses on the top end of cars.
#7: This car is powered by a quite conventional, gasoline-driven engine - but it's not normally used to push cars along.
#9: The motorcycle manufacturer that builds this car is located in Eastern Europe.
That should make it easier for you!
I'll give you a big, juicy clue to solving #6. Have another look at the picture. If you still don't recognise it, I can tell you that right now would probably be the easiest time to identify the car.
Well, I know what it is, but I can't figure out what you're going for...unless you mean that the coachbuilder doesn't build cars.
I'm not asking for anything else than what it is, so if you know (and I think you do) you can provide the answer. The company in question has, in recent years, focused more on building roof solutions for other manufacturers than coachbuilding, or am I completely wrong?
It's the Karmann Transformer, a recently solved puzzle elsewhere on the site. I see now that I am also guilty of a re-post, and will forgo any points I might have earned in this puzzle.
If anybody should solve that, it should be the father of the re-post ;D
I'll still award you the point, though. If somebody can please solve #7 and #9. #7 is very obscure, I agree, so that might still be a bit hard, but I've given so many clues to what manufacturer that builds #9 that I'm amazed that nobody's found it yet. I mean, how many relatively well-known motorcycle manufacturers are there in Eastern Europe?
#9 Jawa King 500 from 2005
Ah!! Finally!
Only #7 left... and one more clue for that: It's powered by an engine of a type that is normally used to propel the kind of vehicles normally built by the company that built the car that was just solved. Did you get that?
The (almost complete) list:
1 - 1965 O.S.I Quattroruote Secura (Otto Puzzell)
2 - 1980 Briggs & Stratton Hybrid (Otto Puzzell)
3 - 1981 Wolfrace Sonic (jotage21)
4 - 1985 ASC Vision (Tifosi)
5 - 1999 Quaife R4-GTS (Quiller)
6 - 2002 Karmann Transformer (Otto Puzzell)
7 - ?
8 - 2007 Alpine Imprint RLS (Quiller)
9 - Italcar T2 (Quiller) - also known as the Jawa Chic or King 500 (Paul Jaray)
10 - 2007 Faurecia Premium Attitude (Tifosi - on Otto's request)
Let me give you the minute details here:
The last one solved here was a Jawa.
The one unsolved puzzle in the flock has an engine of a type that Jawa normally builds.
Jawa normally builds motorcycles.
Rookies? Experts? Professionals?
#7 wants to be retired!
Let's see if you can get this one, too, if I give you one last, fat clue.
First, I'll spell it out for you: Car 7 has a motorcycle engine.
And the man who built it has a first name used by a US president, and a last name used by a US president.
Good luck!
Let's make the search for the man a presidential quiz, with Obama moving in next week and all.
To narrow down the list of possible names for the builder of car 7, you need a list of the presidents of the United States.
Then you remove from the list all those who share their last name with anybody else on the list.
And then you remove from the list all those who have been in office for any other period of time than:
a) One whole period (from election to election), or
b) Two whole period (from election to election to election).
By now, your list should be reduced from 43 names (or 42, depending on whether you wrote Grover Cleveland once or twice), to 18.
From this list, you can also remove all the presidents who share their first name with anybody else on the list. That should rid you of another four. You can also delete William Howard Taft and Bill (William) Clinton.
This leaves you with 12 names. Among these 12 first names and 12 last names you will find the ones that are used by the builder of car 7. Which is powered by a motorcycle engine (which, by the way, is not from the same country as the builder).
This probably made you more confused. But hey! That's what puzzling's all about :)
To finish this puzzle here comes number #7 George Carter with Yamaha motorcycle engines.
Oh yes! You did it!
That completes this puzzle - finally... :)
Which gives this list:
The (almost complete) list:
1 - 1965 O.S.I Quattroruote Secura (Otto Puzzell)
2 - 1980 Briggs & Stratton Hybrid (Otto Puzzell)
3 - 1981 Wolfrace Sonic (jotage21)
4 - 1985 ASC Vision (Tifosi)
5 - 1999 Quaife R4-GTS (Quiller)
6 - 2002 Karmann Transformer (Otto Puzzell)
7 - 2006 Can-Am Yamaha Racer by George Carter (João)
8 - 2007 Alpine Imprint RLS (Quiller)
9 - Italcar T2 (Quiller) - also known as the Jawa Chic or King 500 (Paul Jaray)
10 - 2007 Faurecia Premium Attitude (Tifosi - on Otto's request)
Points awarded:
Otto Puzzell 3, Quiller 3, Tifosi 2, jotage21 1, Paul Jaray 1 and João 1.
Congratulations!