Solved - Name That Make #24: 1908 PMC (Peets)

Started by ftg3plus4, August 09, 2009, 03:52:35 PM

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ftg3plus4

For one point: Make & year.

This one's different because I have seen & photographed this very car myself (although this is not my photo of it). Also, I'm not asking for the name that it's exhibited under (which is the manufacturer's name) but the correct make name that's listed for it pretty much everywhere else!
"May I submit 'Utopian Turtletop'? Do not trouble to answer unless you like it."
-- Marianne Moore, suggesting a name for what would become the Edsel

ftg3plus4

"May I submit 'Utopian Turtletop'? Do not trouble to answer unless you like it."
-- Marianne Moore, suggesting a name for what would become the Edsel

pnegyesi

I am not an expert as such, but I'd say that it is a high-wheeler with a steering wheel (as opposed to the more popular tiller).

International Harvester maybe?

ftg3plus4

Nope... right part of the world, but this is less well-known and much more short-lived.
"May I submit 'Utopian Turtletop'? Do not trouble to answer unless you like it."
-- Marianne Moore, suggesting a name for what would become the Edsel

pnegyesi

Tudhope or Tudhope-McIntyre? 1908-1909

ftg3plus4

Nope... still less well-known & more short-lived. And by "right part of the world" I meant "American." You've got the right time-frame, though.
"May I submit 'Utopian Turtletop'? Do not trouble to answer unless you like it."
-- Marianne Moore, suggesting a name for what would become the Edsel

pnegyesi


ftg3plus4

"May I submit 'Utopian Turtletop'? Do not trouble to answer unless you like it."
-- Marianne Moore, suggesting a name for what would become the Edsel

pnegyesi

These autobuggies or high-wheelers look very much alike. Though there are only a few with steering wheels. I just found another one: Menard Auto Buggy?

ftg3plus4

Nope.

Another hint: This make existed only during one calendar year, and this example is the only one still in existence.
"May I submit 'Utopian Turtletop'? Do not trouble to answer unless you like it."
-- Marianne Moore, suggesting a name for what would become the Edsel

75america

#10
1908 Peets High Wheeler?

ftg3plus4

Ahhh... you've hit on the "wrong" name given at its place of exhibition. But what is the make generally called elsewhere?

Holding for you for 24 hours.
"May I submit 'Utopian Turtletop'? Do not trouble to answer unless you like it."
-- Marianne Moore, suggesting a name for what would become the Edsel

75america


ftg3plus4

#13
That's it!

It seems that the manufacturer's nameplate (C. S. Peets Mfg. Co, New York, NY) on the surviving car has led to its being exhibited as the "1908 Peets," but contemporary references to the make list it as the PMC. No one knows how many were made, but this car is "No. 33."

This is undoubtedly the most obscure make I've personally gotten to see "in the metal." I will post my own pic of it when I get the chance.
"May I submit 'Utopian Turtletop'? Do not trouble to answer unless you like it."
-- Marianne Moore, suggesting a name for what would become the Edsel

ftg3plus4

Here is my own pic of the car, taken earlier this month.
"May I submit 'Utopian Turtletop'? Do not trouble to answer unless you like it."
-- Marianne Moore, suggesting a name for what would become the Edsel

ftg3plus4

Just came across this contemporary pic of a 1908 PMC. I wonder if this was a totally different model or if the surviving car lost some parts (convertible top, running boards, lights, etc.) somewhere in its history?
"May I submit 'Utopian Turtletop'? Do not trouble to answer unless you like it."
-- Marianne Moore, suggesting a name for what would become the Edsel