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Title: Solved -PJ100- All American Engineering Jet-Powered plane-arresting gear tester
Post by: Paul Jaray on May 03, 2009, 12:52:32 PM
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Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: Ray B. on May 03, 2009, 01:21:31 PM
Don't read this, Paul.

As if it wasn't enough that he should have about twice the points of his immediate follower, that he should solve the toughest puzzles.... No, we may do whatever we can, but when it comes to find the most rare and beautiful streamliners, or the strangest oddball cars, PJ is the master.
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: Paul Jaray on May 07, 2009, 07:22:39 AM
(thank you Ray)
Your turn...
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: K5ING on May 07, 2009, 04:25:31 PM
Is it a giant Roomba for parking lots?   ;D
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: Paul Jaray on May 07, 2009, 04:39:04 PM
Nope, and it's not an early Batmobile.
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: Paul Jaray on July 04, 2009, 02:51:31 PM
For this one, not the name, but the purpose is needed, and after all it won't be so hard...
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: Allemano on July 04, 2009, 04:11:07 PM
for heavy loads, maybe a tractor for rockets?
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: guido66 on July 04, 2009, 04:12:18 PM
A giant leafblower for airport runways?
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: Paul Jaray on July 04, 2009, 04:28:10 PM
Quote from: Allemano on July 04, 2009, 04:11:07 PM
for heavy loads, maybe a tractor for rockets?
Not a rocket tractor
Quote from: guido66 on July 04, 2009, 04:12:18 PM
A giant leafblower for airport runways?
That's an idea! But not this....
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: guido66 on July 04, 2009, 04:45:15 PM
a huge runway de-icer?
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: Paul Jaray on July 04, 2009, 04:53:19 PM
Not a de-icer but your guesses are in the right direction....
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: guido66 on July 04, 2009, 04:59:08 PM
It's seems to be a bit over the top to use it to get rid of a flock of birds  ;)
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: Paul Jaray on July 04, 2009, 05:08:19 PM
Quote from: guido66 on July 04, 2009, 04:59:08 PM
It's seems to be a bit over the top to use it to get rid of a flock of birds  ;)
Definetly, if you consider that in the airport where I work, they use vehicles like this:
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: Allemano on July 05, 2009, 03:52:12 AM
for sport stadiums (to level off cinder tracks)?
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: Allemano on July 05, 2009, 03:53:05 AM
or a huge mower?
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: Paul Jaray on July 05, 2009, 05:03:37 AM
Quote from: Allemano on July 05, 2009, 03:52:12 AM
for sport stadiums (to level off cinder tracks)?
Not that...
Quote from: Allemano on July 05, 2009, 03:53:05 AM
or a huge mower?
Neither...
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: Otto Puzzell on July 05, 2009, 06:20:23 AM
Built for an LSR attempt?
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: Paul Jaray on July 05, 2009, 06:24:40 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on July 04, 2009, 04:53:19 PM
Not a de-icer but your guesses are in the right direction....
Not for speed records...
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: Otto Puzzell on July 05, 2009, 06:59:16 AM
For testing jet engines?
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: Paul Jaray on July 05, 2009, 07:02:41 AM
Not for that...
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: Otto Puzzell on July 05, 2009, 07:45:25 AM
Used to launch aircraft?
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: Paul Jaray on July 05, 2009, 07:56:45 AM
That's another project behind this....
one point for you!
Another point for the actual job of this ...thing.
It won't be so hard now...
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: Otto Puzzell on July 05, 2009, 08:06:46 AM
To launch the planes without a overly-long build up of speed - sort of like the catapult on aircraft carrier decks.
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: Paul Jaray on July 05, 2009, 08:10:18 AM
Yes, this was another project, but actually, this thing has been used for another purpose...
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: Otto Puzzell on July 05, 2009, 08:11:29 AM
To dry pavement?
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: Paul Jaray on July 05, 2009, 08:21:00 AM
Not that, but your previous guess contains a precious element...
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: Otto Puzzell on July 05, 2009, 08:22:21 AM
To catapult something - trash bags into a landfill?

Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: Paul Jaray on July 05, 2009, 08:27:14 AM
Is really out there such a device?
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: Otto Puzzell on July 05, 2009, 08:37:05 AM
I have no idea - that would be fun to watch, wouldn't it?  :D
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: Paul Jaray on July 05, 2009, 08:41:21 AM
..and the day you don't need the catapult anymore, just remove the brakes!
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: Otto Puzzell on July 05, 2009, 08:59:38 AM
Hmmm....

Could this have been used to test aircraft brakes?
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: Paul Jaray on July 05, 2009, 09:05:37 AM
.......................sort of..............................
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: guido66 on July 08, 2009, 04:07:14 PM
Runway rubber removal?
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: Paul Jaray on July 08, 2009, 05:24:59 PM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on July 05, 2009, 08:59:38 AM
Hmmm....

Could this have been used to test aircraft brakes?
Quote from: Paul Jaray on July 05, 2009, 09:05:37 AM
.......................sort of..............................
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: gilescooperuk on July 08, 2009, 05:28:59 PM
Drag unit to get gliders in the air?
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: Paul Jaray on July 08, 2009, 05:35:01 PM
Not that...
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: Otto Puzzell on July 09, 2009, 05:15:27 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on July 08, 2009, 05:24:59 PM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on July 05, 2009, 08:59:38 AM
Hmmm....

Could this have been used to test aircraft brakes?
Quote from: Paul Jaray on July 05, 2009, 09:05:37 AM
.......................sort of..............................


Perhaps, to test automobile brakes?
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: Paul Jaray on July 09, 2009, 08:28:08 AM
Not that....
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: Otto Puzzell on July 09, 2009, 08:48:24 AM
As the tree said to the lumberjack, I'm stumped.  ???
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: Paul Jaray on July 09, 2009, 08:53:54 AM
You were really there...I don't know how to give a clue without revealing too much...it is not for the aircraft brakes, but....
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: Otto Puzzell on July 09, 2009, 08:58:12 AM
Aircraft engines?
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: Otto Puzzell on July 09, 2009, 08:58:33 AM
Aircraft tires?
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: Paul Jaray on July 09, 2009, 09:00:25 AM
Not engines or tires...you were closer with the brakes, not fisically....
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: Otto Puzzell on July 09, 2009, 09:01:31 AM
Braking parachutes?
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: Paul Jaray on July 09, 2009, 09:03:34 AM
Right direction, wrong item.
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: Otto Puzzell on July 09, 2009, 09:11:50 AM
Jet engine thrust-reversers?
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: Paul Jaray on July 09, 2009, 09:19:50 AM
...all the guesses are in the correct direction, braking chutes, brakes, jet reverse...but there is another, common, device to stop a plane....
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: Allemano on July 09, 2009, 09:26:57 AM
first when Otto gives up I'll post my presumption..  ;D
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: Paul Jaray on July 09, 2009, 09:57:49 AM
Technically this is always open to all and Otto will get a point for spotting the 'launching aircraft' pourpose...but I respect your decision.
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: metalshapes on July 09, 2009, 12:20:05 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on July 09, 2009, 09:19:50 AM
...all the guesses are in the correct direction, braking chutes, brakes, jet reverse...but there is another, common, device to stop a plane....

Airplane arresting net?
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: Paul Jaray on July 09, 2009, 12:31:18 PM
OK, since you decide to proceed, you are really, really there. One point for the correct name of the device and the way it is tested by this vehicle.
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: metalshapes on July 09, 2009, 12:39:50 PM
Sorry, I did not realise Allemano was waiting for Otto.

Please disregard my answer, and I'll stay out of it for now...
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: Paul Jaray on July 09, 2009, 12:43:53 PM
This one is free for all.
Otto was really close, Allemano probably got it, you are pratically there.
One point is still there for the correct use of this vehicle.
Feel free to proceed at your discrection.
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: Allemano on July 09, 2009, 12:44:07 PM
Quote from: metalshapes on July 09, 2009, 12:39:50 PM
Sorry, I did not realise Allemano was waiting for Otto.

Please disregard my answer, and I'll stay out of it for now...

No, continue please. :)
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: guido66 on July 09, 2009, 01:33:09 PM
a headwind generator, placed at the end of the runway  ???
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: Paul Jaray on July 09, 2009, 01:43:16 PM
When it will be solved, 2 or 3 of you will say...that's it? was it so easy?
Read the past replies and you'll find that it's almost solved....
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: guido66 on July 09, 2009, 01:50:23 PM
Testing the wing brake flaps?
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: Paul Jaray on July 09, 2009, 01:52:47 PM
Not that...someone was really close, pratically there....and from now on, only complete answers: how this vehicle is supposed to test the still unnamed braking device.
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: Allemano on July 09, 2009, 01:56:33 PM
A kind of drivable "shoe" which slows down the plane while its landing gear is locked in the openings/intakes of this 'device'?

Probably pure nonsense.....  ^-^
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: gilescooperuk on July 09, 2009, 02:00:42 PM
arrestor cable testing
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: Paul Jaray on July 09, 2009, 02:03:13 PM
Quote from: Allemano on July 09, 2009, 01:56:33 PM
A kind of drivable "shoe" which slows down the plane while its landing gear is locked in the openings/intakes of this 'device'?

Probably pure nonsense..... ^-^

Yes...pure. (much easier)
Quote from: gilescooperuk on July 09, 2009, 02:00:42 PM
arrestor cable testing
Quote from: Paul Jaray on July 09, 2009, 01:52:47 PM
...someone was really close, pratically there....and from now on, only complete answers: how this vehicle is supposed to test the still unnamed braking device.
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: gilescooperuk on July 09, 2009, 02:08:52 PM
Well if I was close with the arrestor cable testing.

The machine would be fitted with an arrestor hook and placed at one end of a runway with the cable stretched across at the other (or about halfway down).

You would power it up and bring it up to about 120mph (normal landing speed for most aircraft) and send it down the runway.

As it catches the cable it will be bought to a stop (we hope) presumably by varying the engine power it can simulate different weights of aircraft.

Any good?
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: Paul Jaray on July 09, 2009, 02:14:48 PM
The device is called arresting gear, and it is correct, but the dynamic you wrote is not...(too expensive in case of cable failure, don't you think?)
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: gilescooperuk on July 09, 2009, 02:18:27 PM
well in that case the only other way I can see it working would be to attach it to the cable and try to pull it from its mountings on the runway. You could do this facing the 'wrong way' to give you a mile to bring it to a stop in case of a snap!
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: Paul Jaray on July 09, 2009, 02:42:47 PM
That's very clever indeed, but it doesn't work like that...
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: Otto Puzzell on July 10, 2009, 04:32:09 AM
Ah - I hadn't thought of that. There's also the hook-and-wire thingy on carrier decks. Allemano, please jump in if you have it. Like that Crosley puzzle, I'm running out of ideas.
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: Paul Jaray on July 10, 2009, 04:36:08 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on July 09, 2009, 01:52:47 PM
how this vehicle is supposed to test the still unnamed braking device arresting gear?
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: Allemano on July 10, 2009, 04:38:45 AM
I don't have any idea either. Already made my guess which was a complete failure ;D
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: Paul Jaray on July 10, 2009, 01:03:44 PM
The remaining part is really not so hard...take a look at my 2nd pic and look how it was supposed to work in the drawing...then it's just a simple matter....
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: D-type on July 10, 2009, 07:55:18 PM
For testing braking parachutes?
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: Paul Jaray on July 11, 2009, 05:07:21 AM
gilescooperuk was right, it is a testing vehicle for the arresting gear...now the point is to find out how it is supposed to do that...it is not going to hit the cable with a hook, and a clue can be found in the drawing I posted...
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: Otto Puzzell on July 11, 2009, 05:09:41 AM
Does the hook grab something on the guide rail?
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: Paul Jaray on July 11, 2009, 05:12:22 AM
Now will be a matter of time:
the pic above the drawing shows the system...it's there!
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: guido66 on July 11, 2009, 05:31:01 AM
There's an arrestor hook on top of the cart.

I guess that the cart is pushed up to speed by the jet engined vehicle. After this vehicle stops pushing and brakes or makes the turn, the cart runs into to an arrestor cable.
Title: Re: PJ - 100
Post by: Paul Jaray on July 11, 2009, 07:27:35 AM
That's it...I posted it hoping nobody notice it ...and you didn't!
Title: Re: Solved -PJ100- All American Engineers Jet-Powered plane-arresting gear tester
Post by: Paul Jaray on July 11, 2009, 08:08:52 AM
Guido66 explains it very well...there are no planes involved in the arresting gear test, it is just the cart mounted in front of the vehicle that is pushed toward the cable, it can be loaded with different amount of weight, simulating different type of aircraft and if it fails, just the cart goes crash. The vehicle runs on a rail, when it reaches the correct speed, it pushes the brakes and let the cart go free.
Title: Re: Solved -PJ100- All American Engineers Jet-Powered plane-arresting gear tester
Post by: Paul Jaray on July 11, 2009, 08:10:45 AM
 :scratch:
Title: Re: Solved -PJ100- All American Engineers Jet-Powered plane-arresting gear tester
Post by: Allemano on July 11, 2009, 08:23:46 AM
Sorry I've temporarily deleted my last post (thought I suddenly had an idea...)

again:
"Maybe I'm a little lame, but I still don't understand the landing process ...
Does the plane land piggy-back on top of the speed synchronized cart?"

Now I see, it's only propelling "jets" to take off.
Obviousely not a device for decelerate planes during the landing process.