Solved -PJ120- Let's fly away to the solved section.

Started by Paul Jaray, May 11, 2009, 05:15:09 AM

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Paul Jaray

#25
Yes!
Fly 1 - French Aero 1914                                                João
Fly 2 - Traction Aerienne 1921                                    Allan L
Fly 3 -  ???
Fly 4 - Helicron no.1 1932                                          Cabrius
Fly 5 - Clifford Robin's Propeller Car 1955                    Pguillem
Fly 6 -  ???
Fly 7 - Leyat Helica Sport 1913-14                              Pguillem
Fly 8 -  ???
Fly 9 - B. F. Ponder's self-built auto-plane 1934            Arunas
Fly 10 - Count Bertrand de Lesseps' Auto Aero 1912       @re
Fly 11 -  J. C. Thomas' 'Windmobile''                                  Arunas              
Fly 12 -  ???


Paul Jaray

Bt1,2 and 3 have already a name...who will add the Bt4 and name them all will get the bonus point...

Quiller

Bt4 is the Begalet by Scarab Aviation Labs
Bt3 is the Jetstream
Bt2 is the FEI X-1
Bt1 is the Aerocar from Argentina

Otto Puzzell

Thus the whirligig of time brings in his AutoPuzzles.
You wanna be the man, you gotta Name That Car!

Paul Jaray

Quote from: Quiller on June 16, 2009, 03:59:11 AM
Bt4 is the Begalet by Scarab Aviation Labs
Bt3 is the Jetstream
Bt2 is the FEI X-1
Bt1 is the Aerocar from Argentina
All correct!

Arunas

#30
#11 - J. C. Thomas' 'Windmobile'' :)


Arunas

A very interesting car indeed! But I think, in order to solve this puzzle copletely some hinting may be needed.

Paul Jaray

#3 - It's quite obscure, I have a blurred pic of the builder name so when someone will find it I can verify. It is French.
#6 - Self-built car, Continental aircraft engine. If you google the builder's name, here's the result:

Arunas

#8 - Guthrie Mitchell's Windjammer


Paul Jaray


Fly 1 - French Aero 1914                                                João
Fly 2 - Traction Aerienne 1921                                    Allan L
Fly 3 -  ???
Fly 4 - Helicron no.1 1932                                          Cabrius
Fly 5 - Clifford Robin's Propeller Car 1955                    Pguillem
Fly 6 -  ???
Fly 7 - Leyat Helica Sport 1913-14                              Pguillem
Fly 8 - Guthrie Mitchell's Windjammer                           Arunas
Fly 9 - B. F. Ponder's self-built auto-plane 1934            Arunas
Fly 10 - Count Bertrand de Lesseps' Auto Aero 1912       @re
Fly 11 -  J. C. Thomas' 'Windmobile''                                  Arunas              
Fly 12 -  ???

jotage21


Paul Jaray

Not Diringos...another view with a clue:

jotage21



jotage21


Paul Jaray

Not that, but in the same book you can find this...

jotage21


Paul Jaray

#44
Correct!
Fly 1 - French Aero 1914                                                João
Fly 2 - Traction Aerienne 1921                                    Allan L
Fly 3 -  ???
Fly 4 - Helicron no.1 1932                                          Cabrius
Fly 5 - Clifford Robin's Propeller Car 1955                    Pguillem
Fly 6 -  ???
Fly 7 - Leyat Helica Sport 1913-14                              Pguillem
Fly 8 - Guthrie Mitchell's Windjammer                           Arunas
Fly 9 - B. F. Ponder's self-built auto-plane 1934            Arunas
Fly 10 - Count Bertrand de Lesseps' Auto Aero 1912       @re
Fly 11 -  J. C. Thomas' 'Windmobile''                                  Arunas              
Fly 12 -  Canzol 1931                                                         Jotage21


Ray B.

This tells us that it was made by Robert Bourbeau and Henri Devaux, who were the owners of Bédélia (same address, 32 rue Félicien David). So I guess it's a Bédélia, but i still have to check.
He Touched Me With His Noodly Appendage

Paul Jaray

Finally!
I thought it was that, but was waiting for an expert on French cars... I have no record of a Bédélia like this, but the coincidences are many...can you find any prove of that?

Ray B.

If you google the address, you will easily find a page about Bedelia, with the name of its two owners (not fully readable on your picture). But I could find no relation between Bedelia and this propeller car. Except that in 1911 a special model equipped with a airplane engine won the course de côte of Gaillon. Had this special model also a propeller?

In the meantime, let's call it simply a Bourbeau-Devaux.
He Touched Me With His Noodly Appendage

Ray B.

On the plate, I think you can read (bottom left) BD2.

BD2 was a model name for the Bedelia. Maybe this car was a special order from a special customer (they did this quite often, I read), a try at a propeller-type car.
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