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Solved -PJ135- SMZ S-3L 1956

Started by Paul Jaray, May 26, 2009, 03:28:14 PM

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Paul Jaray

Not that. The name I have is new to me too and it's not reported in any other source.

Arunas



faksta

And not ZMA, I guess?
Does it have 'Z' in the name?

Paul Jaray

Thank you for the question, yes, one of these 3 letters is a 'Z'.

pnegyesi

That's just as well: Z for zavod (factory)

Paul Jaray

OK, time for another clue, the 'Z' in the middle.

faksta

Quote from: pnegyesi on October 01, 2009, 03:57:19 PM
That's just as well: Z for zavod (factory)

I was asking exactly because of this :P Otherwise we could go in a completely wrong direction in case these three letters meant simply the word, and not a factory name :)

Quote from: Paul Jaray on October 01, 2009, 04:11:00 PM
OK, time for another clue, the 'Z' in the middle.

Hmm...

pnegyesi

KZA as in Kubishevsky Zavod Avtodetaley?


Arunas



João

Could it be the CZL 8HP? ;D

Paul Jaray

#38
Yes!
Tell me that you have some more info! 

João

Unfortunately no :-\..
I have a collection of Brazilian car magazines from late 50´s called: Revistas de Automóveis,that shows exactly this article with the same info but in portuguese...


Paul Jaray

I'm sure our friends will have some info, at least on these letters, I'm afraid that something got ... lost in translation!

faksta

You know... I have a smooth feeling something indeed got lost. Written like this, it could be transliterated into Russian as СЗЛ, ЦЗЛ, С3(three)Л or Ц3(three)Л. To be honest, I think the text contains an information about S-3L (three, not Z - they're identic in Russian alphabet). As a proof: SMZ S3L was presented in 1956 and had a 7.5hp engine. But the maximum speed was just about 55kmh and, what is more important, it was a three-wheeler...
I'll have to find out more abou tthis car - it may well become some NAMI or SMZ own prototype or, or maybe there was indeed something called SZL and I may be completely mistaken.
Pictured are SMZ S-3L and a 1958 prototype called SMZ S-4A. Note how the design was meant to change - four wheels and a closed body, the ideas close to the car on a first picture.

Can I share the above article with text at another forum and try to get some information?

Paul Jaray

That will be great.
My first idea was that too, S-3L, but as you wrote, and as your pics show, there is not such a model.
let's see how is going to end... (if ever)

faksta

OK, now we just wait.

Arunas


Paul Jaray

I'm moving this one to the solved section, waiting for updates...(if any)
2 points for João.

faksta

So, after some time of a very intriguing silence, I think this one may be finally identified. I'd like to thank those who has helped with it here:
http://rcforum.ru/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=659609#659609 and personally Dietryh for this picture from his personal archive.
The prototype should be called S-3L indeed and seemingly comes from 1956. You can also note a very interesting detail invisible from a previous point of view: the car has a retractable soft top.

Allemano

It's okay to thank those Russian guys, but following the link there are some other obscurities to find. Maybe you better remove it...

Paul Jaray

OK, since the true identity of this car was discovered by faksta, one point for his detective works is due.
About the link, if the guys who helped you want to be credited for that, I think it's nice to do it.

faksta

They asked to be credited, as they have provided the very rare picture from a personal archive. 'Photo credit links only, please' - I hope this fits.
And thanks, PJ :)