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Solved -PJ274- Adams Eight 35-40HP Touring 1906 & Mercer Raceabout 1915

Started by Paul Jaray, November 15, 2009, 07:55:32 AM

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Ray B.

Mercer-Adams Funeral Service, Bethany, Oklahoma.
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Paul Jaray

There is a particular _____ that connect Mercer with Adams...it's not about the names...

Allemano

kind of blow of fate?


Allemano

#30
anything to do with a ship?

Paul Jaray

You are there...
time for my final clue, then?

Allemano

just let us have a look...!

Ray B.

Washington Augustus II Roebling, of the Roebling family who owned half of the Mercer company, died aboard the Titanic.
After the Titanic sinking, Hiram Stevens Maxim, owner of the Adams Manufacturing company (and inventor of the Maxim machine gun), proposed a new system of echolocation (like the bats) for locating the ships.
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Paul Jaray

the connection is much easier...
(never heard of Hiram Stevens Maxim as owner of the Adams Manufacturing...each day you learn something new!)

Allemano

Where's that big clue?


75america

They both were present on a boat that sunk?

Allemano

That Chrysler Norseman got lost on the Andrea Doria desaster. It was designed by Virgil Exner who later designed a relaunch Mercer car, the Mercer Cobra, built by Sibona Basano.
but that says nothing about the Adams Hewitt brand...

Paul Jaray

Quote from: Ray B. on November 22, 2009, 07:31:38 AM
Washington Augustus II Roebling, of the Roebling family who owned half of the Mercer company, died aboard the Titanic.
After the Titanic sinking, Hiram Stevens Maxim, owner of the Adams Manufacturing company (and inventor of the Maxim machine gun), proposed a new system of echolocation (like the bats) for locating the ships.
You were very close
Quote from: 75america on November 22, 2009, 09:08:14 AM
They both were present on a boat that sunk?
I think that the 1915 Mercer runabour din't had the canche...and the connection is about the Makes...Ray was really close.
Quote from: Allemano on November 22, 2009, 09:12:43 AM
That Chrysler Norseman got lost on the Andrea Doria desaster. It was designed by Virgil Exner who later designed a relaunch Mercer car, the Mercer Cobra, built by Sibona Basano.
but that says nothing about the Adams Hewitt brand...
The clue had to point you in the right direction, and you and Ray got it.
The answer is now much easier than you think....

Allemano

#40
So, I guess one of the important members of the Adam (Hewitt) company died on a ship accident as well?
Find nothing about it so far..

75america

BTW is this a photo of the Chrysler Norseman.  
In my literature there is mentioned that no picture of the car exists.

Paul Jaray

Quote from: 75america on November 22, 2009, 09:27:17 AM
BTW is this a photo of the Chrysler Norseman. 
In my literature there is mentioned that no picture of the car exists.
There are different pictures of the car...
Quote from: Allemano on November 22, 2009, 09:27:03 AM
So, I guess one of the important member of the Adam (Hewitt) company died on a ship accident as well?
...I'm counting the seconds now...

Ray B.

Quote from: Paul Jaray on November 22, 2009, 07:56:55 AM
the connection is much easier...
(never heard of Hiram Stevens Maxim as owner of the Adams Manufacturing...each day you learn something new!)
I guess you're right. I got misled by the Wikipedia page about the Adams automobile (check it). Nevertheless, it establishes a indirect connection between the Adamas car, through Edward Hewitt, and Hiram Maxim.
And the connection I found, through the Titanic disaster, between Maxim and the Mercer is quite dandy in my opinion. ;D
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Paul Jaray

Quote from: Ray B. on November 22, 2009, 09:36:32 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on November 22, 2009, 07:56:55 AM
the connection is much easier...
(never heard of Hiram Stevens Maxim as owner of the Adams Manufacturing...each day you learn something new!)
I guess you're right. I got misled by the Wikipedia page about the Adams automobile (check it). Nevertheless, it establishes a indirect connection between the Adamas car, through Edward Hewitt, and Hiram Maxim.
And the connection I found, through the Titanic disaster, between Maxim and the Mercer is quite dandy in my opinion. ;D
The one you found was a 5-star connection!
I'm surprised that no-one found the solution, so far!

Allemano

I'm surprised as well, but I'm stuck.

Paul Jaray

Quote from: Paul Jaray on November 22, 2009, 09:28:37 AM
Quote from: Allemano on November 22, 2009, 09:27:03 AM
So, I guess one of the important member of the Adam (Hewitt) company died on a ship accident as well?
...I'm counting the seconds now...
There is nothing I can add now..

Paul Jaray

It's so easy, but I can't do it
So risky - But I gotta a chance it
It's so funny, there's nothing to laugh about
My money, that's all you wanna talk about
I can see what you want me to be
But I'm no fool
It's in the lap of the Gods

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ya0FPFdCSY

Ray B.

Sarah Cooper Hewitt and her sister, Eleanor Cooper Hewitt were abord the Lusitania in 1907. Sarah Cooper Hewitt (a very well-known and wealthy family of socialites) was I believe the mother of Edward L. Hewitt, father of the Adams car but more well known for his books about fish and fishing. But the Lhe Lusitania wasn't sunk before 1915, so I think the connection is very weak.

The is another: after the Titanic survivors landed in America, they were nursed by many "women of prominence" as said the New York Times in the following excerpt. One of them was Mrs Edward Hewitt, which we can guess is logically our Edward L. Hewitt's spouse.

"...Women of prominence could be seen moving about from task to task. Miss Anne Morgan was always busy, Mrs. August Belmont and Mrs. Eugene Kelly were helping with this case and that, Mrs. Edward Hewitt was a tower of strength, and Mrs. Henry Dimock was tireless as her bundles of clothing arrived, stack on stack, and her motor car carried her from one errand to another..."
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Paul Jaray

I'm trying to find more about the story I have, but there are a lot of strange things...
You wrote about Hewitt and the Lusitania, referring to Hewitt as the father of the Adams make, but there was another man involved...