ADG 40 - SOLVED - Opel Kapitän - liftback conversion by Vogt Autotechnik

[75america]

I would like to know what it is (no point will be awarded for this because it is to easy) and who converted it (for a point).
Because I don't know the converter myself, I need some proof before I can award the point

[75america]

Experts?

[D-type]

I would like to know what it is (no point will be awarded for this because it is to easy) and who converted it (for a point).
Because I don't know the converter myself, I need some proof before I can award the point

Please don't be so smug and patronising.  I haven't a f*ing clue what it is!

[75america]

Please don't be so smug and patronising.  I haven't a f*ing clue what it is!

I understand that you might doubt between 2, possibly even 3 cars.

[franck.kegelart]

I think it is an Opel Admiral - liftback conversion by Vogt Autotechnik ; I believe it was made for german television.

[75america]

I think it is an Opel Admiral - liftback conversion by Vogt Autotechnik ; I believe it was made for german television.

Not an Admiral, so only 1 possibility left.
Can you prove that it was made by Vogt Autotechnik?
I already looked for Vogt conversions, but I was not able to find this particular one.

[D-type]

If the "easy" bit isn't an Opel Admiral, is it a Holden Statesman?

[woodinsight]

Opel Kapitan (introduced in early 1969)?
Not sure about the converter (I have the self same photo but unfortunately there is no caption)
I'll keep searching........

[75america]

It is indeed a Kapitän

[75america]

Pro's?

[grobmotorix]

This Opel Kapitän was converted to a kind of fastback Coupé by Karosseriefabrik Wender (NOT Wendler), located at Berlin-Charlottenburg.

I do not know more and it would be great to get any additional information about the coachbuilding company.

I suppose we both have the same book...

[guido66]

I have another book in which it says that it is by Vogt and it was made for ZDF. They also did a Diplomat. I'll post a scan tonight when I get home.

[grobmotorix]

This is definitly not the Vogt version.
Have a closer look at the rear end.
The Wender version has a breaking line at the middle of its rear end and the huge trunk lid includes the rear screen.
The roof-mounted hinges can be seen clearly in the Wender-pic on top of this puzzle.
The Vogt (Be it Admiral, Kapitän or Diplomat) had a straigt fastback line and a small standard-type trunk lid as can be seen here:

The bottom picture shows the WENDER Kapitän again. I´ve scanned it again from my source.

[Paul Jaray]

Still out there:

[75america]

I tend to believe grobmotorix that it is indeed a Wender conversion, but until now, no clear evidence is given...

I also wonder if the car on the pics that PJ published are one and the same car.  That one 'says' (in the more recent script) Admiral and has a dual exhaust.  Things that are, of course, easy to modify.

And it has also the newer (1972) front.

[grobmotorix]

One gear back, guys!
My fault, I´ve mixed up two subtitles in the book where I´ve found the puzzle pic, too....



I´m sure now this is indeed a second Vogt version of the K-A-D Opels (Kapitän/Admiral/Diplomat).

So the point has to go to 75america in my eyes. He´s given it the name "Vogt" first.

Please excuse this blunder. To satisfy your autopuzzler´s minds, you may like this K-A-D puzzle, I´ve placed as a kind of compensation some minutes ago:

http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=14281.0

[Allemano]

So the point has to go to 75america in my eyes. He´s given it the name "Vogt" first.
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=14281.0

Err... 75america was the author of this puzzle, I don't think he deserves a point for this. 

[Paul Jaray]

I think it is an Opel Admiral - liftback conversion by Vogt Autotechnik ; I believe it was made for german television.

[grobmotorix]

Err...Franck, of course...

[75america]

=>

http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=14281.0

Now I drive an unreliable and expensive 1997 Alfa GTV

Mine is rock solid and inexpensive  

And back on topic: I believe that I will award the point to franck.kegelart because he first came up with Vogt.

[grobmotorix]

Mine came from Belgium and it IS a cost nightmare...

[75america]

Mine came from Belgium and it IS a cost nightmare...

1997 is a series 1 => better to avoid the first (1995-1997) series.
Is it a 2.0 T. Spark? => Better avoid the Fiat T.Spark engines (my 75 with the orginal Alfa 2.0 T. Spark was, how predictable, rock solid and inexpensive as well)

[guido66]

Back to Opels now  

No new photo's but this time with captions from the 1987 book: 125 Jahre Opel: Autos und Technik, by Hans-Jürgen Schneider

The car on the puzzle photo has a plate that ends at 761, the one on my photo ends at 764. Could this mean that at least 4 were built?

[grobmotorix]

The car on the puzzle photo has a plate that ends at 761, the one on my photo ends at 764. Could this mean that at least 4 were built?

MZ stands for Mainz, where the ZDF (second german television) is located. So in my eyes it is most likely that there were at least MZ-MZ 761, 762 763 and 764.

[Wendax]

With opened hatch: