An obvious but quite distant connection - Solved by a few Americans (North & South) and a Briton.

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streamliner

Just a guess to open this up to more successful puzzlers:  The 1937 P4 in "Doomed to Die" (1940)?

Ray B.

#26
Not that one. The Plymouth in this film is a convertible. The one we're talking of is a Coupe, as you previously guessed. We've had The Big Sleep in one of my recent group puzzles, so this one should be easy to check.

I first was sure that it was a 1937 model, but it appears that the character drives a 1937 in some scenes, a 1938 in others. Apparently the studio had a couple of cars and used them interchangeably.
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streamliner

Ahhhh...  Then I'll go with "High Sierra"  ;)

Ray B.

#28
And you'll do well. High Sierra it is. Now you  can move on to Character B.
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João

Link number #8 ( The engine picture ) is a 1937 Lincoln Model K Sedan by Brunn.

Ray B.

Correct. That engine bay is that of a 1937 Lincoln model K. Maybe a sedan, I don't remember, but the car I'm after is not a sedan.
Links 7, 8 and 9 are locked for Joao  24 hours (as often with connection puzzles, this part is becoming rather complicated. Sorry).
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João

You´re looking for a "Parade Phaeton" by Willoughby?

barrett

This is the most incredibly complex puzzle i've ever seen..... Am I the only one whose brain has been slightly fried by trying to work out what's going on here??  ???

Ray B.

Quote from: João on September 21, 2010, 12:29:56 PM
You´re looking for a "Parade Phaeton" by Willoughby?

I am not sure if it's by Willoughby or LeBaron, or if the true denomination is "Parade Phaeton. But I am sure that it's a phaeton, in other words a convertible sedan.
This link is locked for you 24 hours.

@barrett: Not as complex as you think, maybe. For instance, a good guess at this link (N°8) and an identification of the man you can see in link 6 will unveil link 7, and so on.

Now once your brain has reached the right temperature, you could be able to finish solving this one by Otto.
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Take a look at his last "clues" (that's what he calls them., some nerves). That's what I call a brain frying puzzle!
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João

#34
uhmmm....This Lincoln is associated with a Song or something like a Movie too?

Tom_I

Quote from: barrett on September 21, 2010, 12:38:44 PM
This is the most incredibly complex puzzle i've ever seen..... Am I the only one whose brain has been slightly fried by trying to work out what's going on here??  ???

You are not!  ;D

Ray B.

Quote from: João on September 21, 2010, 01:46:43 PM
uhmmm....This Lincoln is associated with a Song or something like a Movie too?

I'd say you begin to know me. A movie, let's say (by the way, the song is great too. I've been looking for that record for years.)
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Tom_I

Ah, at last I'm beginning to get my slightly fried brain around this puzzle.

I think I now see the significance of Ray's comment about "Character A (or C, it doesn't matter)". The series of links is symmetrical, and can be solved from either end.

So what happens at one end, happens in reverse at the other end.

I can't work out the middle yet, but going from the Lincoln Model K, the next link must be its hood ornament, which in this case is a greyhound.

Then the next link (vehicle) is a Greyhound bus.

And finally Character C is Carl Wickman, founder of Greyhound Lines Inc.

Ray B.

#38
Fine thinking, Tom! This a symmetrical puzzle indeed, but I didn't fry my own brain enough to assemble this. So it's longer on one end than on the other.

Now the photo for the last character ( captioned Connection #1) does not come from the internet. But there are other ways to find who he is.
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streamliner

Any chance that Connection 1 is crime writer Robert B. Parker, who seems to basically have continued Raymond Chandler's work (and also created Spenser For Hire)?

Ray B.

#40
Not Robert B. Parker, but you're on the right direction.
Here's what we have now:
Quote from: Ray B. on September 17, 2010, 04:30:19 AM



Character A (or C, it doesn't matter): Christopher Jones (Joao), Captain of the Mayflower, played by Spencer Tracy (Otto Puzzell)
Link 1 (vehicle): The Mayflower (Joao)
Link 2:  Plymouth "Mayflower" hood ornament (Joao)
Link 3 (car):  1937 Plymouth DeLuxe Coupe (streamliner)
Link 4: High Sierra (streamliner)
Character B (picture "Connection 1):  ???       
Link 5: ???
Link 6 : John McIntire (Aaron 65)
Link 7: Honkytonk Man (Joao)
Link 8 (car) 1937 Lincoln Model K convertible sedan (Joao)
Link 9: Lincoln "greyhound" hood ornament (Tom_I)
Link 10 (vehicle): A Greyhound bus (Tom_I)
Character C: Carl Wickman, founder of Greyhound Lines Inc. (Tom_I)


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Aaron65

Link #6 looks like actor John McIntire, from the movie Winchester '73 maybe???  He played Joe Lamont in that movie.

Ray B.

You've got a good eye. It's McIntire indeed in Winchester 73. And the link here is the actor, not this particular film.
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Aaron65

John McIntire is buried in Lincoln County, Montana.

streamliner

John McIntire played "Grandpa" in "Honkytonk Man"

Ray B.

He sure did. Now can you trace how he can be linked to "High Sierra"?
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Aaron65

I'm going to take a stab at Link #5...How about John Huston, who directed McIntyre in The Asphalt Jungle, and also cowrote and directed High Sierra's screenplay, with W.R. Burnett...I'm not sure if Burnett is Character B though...I don't think so.

Ray B.

#47
Aaron, you're almost home. Link#5 is "The Asphalt Jungle". But John Huston is not in the picture.
Here is another picture of Character B / Connection #1.
Locked for you 48 hours.
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Aaron65

That's W.R. Burnett, who wrote High Sierra and co-wrote the screenplay for the film...

Ray B.

#49
It sure is Burnett (who had lost some weight since the first photograph). This last one is the sole picture of him I could find on the internet.
So we can consider that the connection is established between Christopher Jones and Carl Wickman, with all the links found.

Character A (or C, it doesn't matter): Christopher Jones (Joao), Captain of the Mayflower, played by Spencer Tracy (Otto Puzzell)
Link 1 (vehicle): The Mayflower (Joao)
Link 2:  Plymouth "Mayflower" hood ornament (Joao)
Link 3 (car):  1937 Plymouth DeLuxe Coupe (streamliner)
Link 4: High Sierra (streamliner)
Character B:  William Riley Burnett (Aaron 65)      
Link 5: The Asphalt Jungle (Aaron 65)
Link 6 John McIntire(Aaron 65)
Link 7: Honkytonk Man (Joao)
Link 8 (car) 1937 Lincoln Model K convertible sedan (Joao)
Link 9: Lincoln "greyhound" hood ornament (Tom_I)
Link 10 (vehicle): A Greyhound bus (Tom_I)
Character C: Carl Wickman, founder of Greyhound Lines Inc. (Tom_I)

It's not gonna be easy for me to make the points count. For instance, I'd say that although Aaron 65 identified John McIntire he didn't explain wha t he was doing in this puzzle, something that was established by streamliner.
I'll think this over and will make a proposal later to all the puzzlers who helped put the pieces together.
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