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Title: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3 : SOLVED!
Post by: João on November 01, 2009, 11:04:23 AM
20 points - 20 cars

Complete answers please ;)

Have fun hunters!
Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3
Post by: João on November 01, 2009, 11:07:32 AM
Second group:
Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3
Post by: Arunas on November 01, 2009, 11:48:15 AM
Really great puzzle. Unfortunately, I have noticed several reruns...
Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3
Post by: HEMI 426 on November 01, 2009, 12:12:09 PM
#13 - Ford Galaxie Convertible 1964
#14 - Lamborghini Jalpa Spyder Prototype
Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3
Post by: João on November 01, 2009, 02:52:18 PM
I´m sorry :-\  It´s true, I´ll seach better next time

#13 Indeed a 1964 Ford Galaxie Convertible,but this one is special and has a different name.
#14 Right again but can you tell me the year?
 
Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3
Post by: HEMI 426 on November 01, 2009, 08:05:21 PM
#13 - Ford Galaxie Convertibile 1964 - " Constellation", custom car by Gene Winfield from Modesto,California
#14 - Jalpa Spyder - I have 2 relevant dates. 1982 - Spyder project started and 1986 - prototypes completed... chose one you need ;)
Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3
Post by: João on November 01, 2009, 08:55:35 PM
Yes and yes! the Constellation and the 1982 Jalpa!


  #1:1973 Ford Mustela II by Ghia - studhamsmudger
  #2:1950s PE Coupé Prototipo from Portugal - faksta
  #3:1961 Raynall Special - Carnut
  #4:1961 Seat 750 Primavera by Bagovia - 75america
  #5:1962 Alfa Romeo 2600 Prototipo - Carnut
  #6:1963 Metra GT (Never made) a rendering by Dan Palatinik 2009 - Paul Jaray
  #7:1968 Alfa Romeo 1750 Berlinetta Sperimentale by Centro Stile Alfa Romeo - 75america
  #8:1968 Monica 350 1st Prototype - 75america
  #9:1969-70 BMW 1600ti Proposal by Paul Bracq - 75america
#10:1953 AC Bristol - Carnut
#11:1951 AFM 2.5 litre Prototyp Coupe.Ordered by the Brazilian government. - ftg3plus4
#12:1958 Almquist Speedster Kit Car - metalshapes
#13:1964 Ford Galaxie "Constellation" by Gene Winfield - HEMI 426
#14:1982 Lamborghini Jalpa Spyder Prototype - HEMI 426
#15:1948 Cisitalia 202 Cabriolet Vistotal by Castagna - biz5300
#16:1950-59 Raven by Arthur Bentas of Massachusetts.Starting with a 1950 Dodge chassis finished in 1959 - Paul Jaray
#17:1950s Simca Sport Conversível by Monarca - Paul Jaray
#18:1961 Williams Steam Roadster - HEMI 426
#19:1980s Chevrolet Monza Hatch with optical kit from Envemo - jotage21
#20:1966 Fraser GT K9 - JR
Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3
Post by: HEMI 426 on November 01, 2009, 09:49:52 PM
I got another one...

#18 - Williams Steam Roadster 1961 ( steam powered car )
Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3
Post by: João on November 01, 2009, 10:04:49 PM
Congratulations!
Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3
Post by: biz5300 on November 01, 2009, 10:40:58 PM
number 15 is a one Cisitalia
Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3
Post by: biz5300 on November 01, 2009, 10:47:48 PM
10.  AC Ace Tojeiro? 
1. Volvo  2000 Zagato
2. Looks like a Ghia car..  but make ?
9. LMX?
Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3
Post by: João on November 01, 2009, 11:04:51 PM
#15 is a Cisitalia but I need a complete answer..year,model,coachbuilder...
#10 is an AC Ace,what year?  ..coachbuilt body too! (I´m not sure about it but if someone brings a prove,worth another point)
#1 not the Zagato Volvo...
#2 not a Ghia bodied car
#9 not a LMX
Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3
Post by: biz5300 on November 01, 2009, 11:07:10 PM
cisitalia 202 Castagna .. Vistotal.....1948
Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3
Post by: João on November 01, 2009, 11:10:10 PM
cisitalia 202 Castagna .. Vistotal.....1948

Yes Nik!
Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3
Post by: biz5300 on November 01, 2009, 11:14:54 PM
nice seeing you again... Ill put my MSN on... CIAOO
Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3
Post by: João on November 03, 2009, 01:20:04 PM
EX-Rookie
Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3
Post by: 75america on November 03, 2009, 01:22:15 PM
#4: Seat 750 Primavera by Bagovia
#7 Alfa Romeo Alfetta GT proposal by Centro Stile Alfa Romeo.  Thank got the Giugiaro proposal was chosen!
#8: Monica prototype (1st)
9 BMW 1600 by Paul Braq.  But I’m sure this is a rerun.
Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3
Post by: ftg3plus4 on November 03, 2009, 01:26:30 PM
#11 - 1951 AFM 2.5l
Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3
Post by: studhamsmudger on November 03, 2009, 02:47:29 PM
#1 Ghia Ford Mustela I
Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3
Post by: João on November 03, 2009, 03:05:52 PM
Yes..

And another pic :
Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3
Post by: 75america on November 03, 2009, 03:23:10 PM
IS the AC body Italian?  By Motto?
Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3
Post by: João on November 03, 2009, 03:31:58 PM
That´s is the problem...I don´t know who is the coachbuilder..
I´ll give the point to the person with a prove (period pic or something else) and the year...The cars is an AC Ace.
Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3
Post by: metalshapes on November 03, 2009, 08:51:17 PM
#12.

ALMQUIST Speedster Kit Car.
Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3
Post by: JR on November 04, 2009, 01:39:25 PM
I can't see 20 mentioned yet, unless I've missed it, which looks like the Fraser GT, also known as the Le Mans Prototype or K9.

JR
Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3
Post by: João on November 04, 2009, 02:00:21 PM
Yes it´s the 1966 Fraser GT K9
Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3
Post by: João on November 07, 2009, 09:29:10 AM
Pro guess!
Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3
Post by: Paul Jaray on November 07, 2009, 10:05:37 AM
#6 - Metra GT , a rendering by Dan Palatinik 2009
#16 - Raven by Arthur Bentas, late Fifties.
#17 - Monarca  by Tony Bianco, 1955
Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3
Post by: faksta on November 07, 2009, 10:05:57 AM
#2 - D.M. coupe from Portugal? Circa 1952, IIRC.
Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3
Post by: João on November 07, 2009, 01:51:39 PM
#6 - Metra GT , a rendering by Dan Palatinik 2009
#16 - Raven by Arthur Bentas, late Fifties.
#17 - Monarca  by Tony Bianco, 1955

Yes,Yes and half yes....Number #17: Monarca is the coachbuilder,Bianco the designer...and the chassis? which make?
Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3
Post by: João on November 07, 2009, 01:53:37 PM
#2 - D.M. coupe from Portugal? Circa 1952, IIRC.

Yes it´s from Portugal but that´s not the name I have...
Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3
Post by: Allan L on November 07, 2009, 04:28:40 PM
That´s is the problem...I don´t know who is the coachbuilder..
I´ll give the point to the person with a prove (period pic or something else) and the year...The cars is an AC Ace.
If that is an Ace, it has to be the only one with those wheels which don't even look much like those on the AC saloon of the time.
Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3
Post by: Paul Jaray on November 08, 2009, 03:00:17 AM
#6 - Metra GT , a rendering by Dan Palatinik 2009
#16 - Raven by Arthur Bentas, late Fifties.
#17 - Monarca  by Tony Bianco, 1955

Yes,Yes and half yes....Number #17: Monarca is the coachbuilder,Bianco the designer...and the chassis? which make?
...Citroen?
Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3
Post by: João on November 08, 2009, 09:08:19 AM
No.....but close!
Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3
Post by: Paul Jaray on November 08, 2009, 09:10:58 AM
...french?
Renault?
Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3
Post by: João on November 08, 2009, 01:54:43 PM
...french?


Yes,Renault
Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3
Post by: Paul Jaray on November 08, 2009, 02:14:09 PM
Citroen?
Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3
Post by: faksta on November 08, 2009, 02:29:08 PM
You're right, that is not a DM, that is a PE, they are quite similar :)
Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3
Post by: jotage21 on November 08, 2009, 03:27:15 PM
#19  Chevrolet Monza with optical kit from Envemo
Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3
Post by: João on November 08, 2009, 05:17:58 PM
Not a Citroën.. :-\

Yes! It´s the PE and right!..it´s a Envemo Monza!
Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3
Post by: Paul Jaray on November 08, 2009, 06:24:38 PM
Unfortunately the sources I found do not mention the base...i can try to list all the french chassis, but they will be just guesses... Simca? (looking at the wheels covers...)
Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3
Post by: João on November 09, 2009, 08:14:17 AM
That´s it!  ;)
Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3
Post by: João on December 01, 2009, 10:26:42 AM
#3 is British ans starts with R
#5 is Italian
#10 I´ll give the AC´s point if someone solve both above
Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3
Post by: 75america on December 01, 2009, 11:24:56 AM
Can car # 5 be an early proposal for a Lancia Flavia successor (Beta)?
Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3
Post by: Carnut on December 01, 2009, 11:34:08 AM
Think #5 is more likely an Alfa.
Proposal for new Giulia Saloon?

#3 looks like a Falcon Caribbean to me but that doesn't start with an 'R'...
Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3
Post by: João on December 01, 2009, 01:01:44 PM
You´re right Carnut! Car number #5 is an Alfa Romeo,but not a Giulia Saloon,............Early 60´s car and proposal..

And car number #3 - Not a Falcon Caribbean.Shares the name with one of the members of this forum,and then the last part of the name,remember starts with R ;) Not a Kit Car too.

Another picture:
Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3
Post by: Carnut on December 01, 2009, 01:59:17 PM
Yes - have got the Alfa now.
It dates from 1962 and is by Alfa-Romeo's own Centro Stile studio.
Will have to dig further to find that Ford side-valve based special though!
Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3
Post by: João on December 01, 2009, 02:09:08 PM
Yes! it´s from 1962! I´ll give the point,now waiting for the other

BTW it´s a proposal for the 2600 Berlina!
Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3
Post by: 75america on December 01, 2009, 02:32:56 PM
Is there more info (and pics) available of this Alfa Romeo car. (can you PM me the link if it was found on the internet?)
Strange that it is a 1962 proposal for the 2600 because the production version of the 2600 was presented in 1962 as well.
Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3
Post by: Carnut on December 01, 2009, 03:02:12 PM
Is #3 an Ashley Regent?
Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3
Post by: João on December 02, 2009, 04:29:55 AM
Not an Ashley Regent
Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3
Post by: Carnut on December 02, 2009, 10:17:47 AM
Not an Ashley Regent

I would try AKS but there isn't anyone called that on the Forum.
There IS a Falcon but the only Falcon it could really be is an early Bermuda and that doesn't start with an R...
So I seem to be stumped!
Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3
Post by: João on December 02, 2009, 12:53:03 PM
Another clue :) :

There is a Lancia by Nardi with this partial name but in italian.....Now it´s easy! ;)
Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3
Post by: Allemano on December 02, 2009, 12:59:35 PM
....Blue Ray?
Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3
Post by: João on December 02, 2009, 01:00:55 PM
....Blue Ray?

Yes!!! Ray is the first part of the name!
Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3
Post by: Carnut on December 02, 2009, 07:03:38 PM
I did think of Ray but discounted it because there is nothing at all in any of my 'Complete Encyclopedias' that begins with Ray at all. So I have no chance whatsoever of getting this one.
And there doesn't seem to be anything on the Internet either, although I'm sure you'll know otherwise...
Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3
Post by: João on December 02, 2009, 08:14:52 PM
It´s an one-off! .....designed and built by the same person.

I only have one source for it. Famous site.
Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3
Post by: Carnut on December 04, 2009, 09:19:36 AM
It´s an one-off! .....designed and built by the same person.

I only have one source for it. Famous site.

Was it designed and built by Raymond Flowers after he left the Frisky outfit in about 1958?
Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3
Post by: João on December 04, 2009, 09:39:34 AM
No... :-\ The car´s name starts with Ray
Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3
Post by: Carnut on December 04, 2009, 11:05:24 AM
No... :-\ The car´s name starts with Ray

OK, believe he did build another car but it was just named after him..
But I may be wrong as I can't find a picture of it!
Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3
Post by: João on December 04, 2009, 04:31:37 PM
I think ...there aren´t connections between them
Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3
Post by: pnegyesi on January 02, 2010, 03:11:02 PM
this car, which starts with Ray, could that be built by a guy, called Raymond?
Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3
Post by: João on January 02, 2010, 05:09:45 PM
this car, which starts with Ray, could that be built by a guy, called Raymond?

No sorry :-\
Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3
Post by: pnegyesi on January 03, 2010, 12:28:15 AM
Rayfield?
Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3
Post by: João on January 03, 2010, 07:16:06 PM
Not Rayfield
Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3
Post by: Carnut on January 11, 2010, 09:33:45 AM
Car #3 is the Raynall Special from about 1961.
Complete home-made one-off!
Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3
Post by: João on January 11, 2010, 12:20:16 PM
 :D  :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:   Sure!!! It is!

Congratulations Carnut and now the Automobile Evolution Puzzle number #3 is solved!

The Points:

studhamsmudger : 1 point
faksta : 1 point
ftg3plus4 : 1 point
metalshapes : 1 point
biz5300 : 1 point
jotage21 : 1 point
JR : 1 point
Carnut : 3 points
HEMI 426 : 3 points
Paul Jaray : 3 points
75america : 4 points
Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3
Post by: Carnut on November 07, 2012, 06:06:02 AM
Car #3 is the Raynall Special from about 1961.
Complete home-made one-off!

Here's another picture of it:

Title: Re: Automobile Evolution Group Puzzle #3 : SOLVED!
Post by: Otto Puzzell on April 25, 2016, 04:11:49 AM
A modern-day pic of #16

Arthur Bentas of Chelmsford, Massachusetts built a beautiful custom car during the 1950s, known as the Raven. It was built from scratch and the project actually began with a 1939 Dodge chassis and a 6-cylinder L-head engine. The windshield was also from a Dodge. The doors, hood and front fenders were courtesy of a 1954 Kaiser. A 1952 Chevrolet hood was modified to become the trunk and was given a Lasalle tire cover. The taillight rings were from a 1950 Pontiac while the taillight lenses came from a 1956 Desoto. The hardtop and dashboard were created by hand by Arthur out of fiberglass. The rear bumper came from a Kaiser and a dual exhaust system was snaked through the bumper.