A point for you, if you tell me what this is:
up..
and up again
Australian?
Not from there.
Babcock?
Not a Babcock
European?
Yes :)
Swiss?
Nein, leider nicht
British?
not British
Scandinavian?
Not from there, either
French?
Es ist nicht Fransozisch
German?
Yes! ;)
an early Wartburg?
No, it's much more obscure than that.
eigenbau?
No, it was made in a factory, which produced more then one car
AAG?
It´s a Primus?
Twice no.
1899 Cudell?
Not a Cudell, but you're in the right century!
Klingenberg?
1898 Kühlstein?
Again, twice no. And not 1898 ;)
Lux?
DeDietrich?
No, no.
Orient Express?
You're not kidding are you? Was there really a German car with that name? If so, this one is not it ;)
1899 Henschel?
Vindelica?
(Orient Express 1895-1903, Bergmann's Industriewerke, Gaggenau ;) )
Twice no, and older than any year mentioned before.
Hille?
Nope.
Lutzmann?
1894 Spieß ?
No, no, and still older
Marcus?
No
steampowered?
Not steam...
Immisch?
No
At the 1st German auto show in 1893 (if I recall correctly) there were four local carmakers: Benz, Daimler, Lutzmann and Kühlstein.
So, what's left? Benz?
None of the above, and earlier than 1893
Wow, this is getting interesting. A factory which was making cars prior to 1893 in Germany. We are re-writing automotive history here.
I've found another source for this photo which says that the photo is one of the later models. The first car was made before 1893, though.
Just found a photo of what is probably this man's first car
Anything to do with Willy Seck?
Siemens?
Twice no.
Was the man's first car (I assume electric) built between 1883-1888?
Hmm, the electric AAG (the later NAG) came years after 1893.
Is Schuckert involved?
Quote from: pnegyesi on July 25, 2010, 01:38:22 PM
Was the man's first car (I assume electric) built between 1883-1888?
Twice yes :)
No relation to Schuckert that I know of.
Well, all I needed was to take a step back and think. So this morning I found this:
Andreas Flocken mit seiner Frau in dem zweiten von ihm entwickelten Elektrowagen, luftbereift, mit Spurstange unten und der Batterie vorne. Das Foto stammt aus dem Jahr 1903
Andreas Flocken with his wife in the 2nd electric car, which he developed. Pneumatic tires, batteries at the back. Photo is from 1903. Flocken lived and worked in Coburg. "Spurstange" is a kind of steering.
QuoteNone of the above, and earlier than 1893
I´ve found the name of Mr.Flocken before , too.
But as you said, his car came past 1893 according to my sources, so I wasn´t inquiring further...
Flocken it is, of course!
I'm sorry I've got the years of the 2 vehicles mixed up. But he built his first electric vehicle in 1888!