...Bits and Pieces...
Here's something a little different. A puzzle with a potential payoff, and a potential risk. These pictures - either heavily cropped shots of the parts you see every day or some of the parts that help them go - range from mundane to exotic automobiles, from a wide chronological range.
Name them all correctly to get 10 points. :)
Name less than all of them correctly, and loose a point from your current points rating for each misidentified picture. :o
A. (http://www.autopuzzles.com/A.jpg) B. (http://www.autopuzzles.com/B.jpg)
C. (http://www.autopuzzles.com/C.jpg) D. (http://www.autopuzzles.com/D.jpg)
E. (http://www.autopuzzles.com/E.jpg) F. (http://www.autopuzzles.com/F.jpg)
G. (http://www.autopuzzles.com/G.jpg) H. (http://www.autopuzzles.com/H.jpg)
I. (http://www.autopuzzles.com/I.jpg) J. (http://www.autopuzzles.com/J.jpg)
K. (http://www.autopuzzles.com/K.jpg) L. (http://www.autopuzzles.com/L.jpg)
M. (http://www.autopuzzles.com/M.jpg) N. (http://www.autopuzzles.com/N.jpg)
O. (http://www.autopuzzles.com/O.jpg) P. (http://www.autopuzzles.com/P.jpg)
Q. (http://www.autopuzzles.com/Q.jpg) R. (http://www.autopuzzles.com/R.jpg)
S. (http://www.autopuzzles.com/S.jpg) T. (http://www.autopuzzles.com/T.jpg)
A Volvo P1900 Sport 1956 SeaLion
B 1932 Aston Martin Le Mans ecurie
C 1939 Delage D8 120 Aaron65
D 1940 Tatra Zenith Carbs guido66
E Chaparral-PL4 Aaron65
F 1969 Ford GT 40 Bonnet Clasps Aaron66
G Rolls Limo Comm Device Stephen M
H ULF Sensor GTR SeaLion
I 1966 Mustang Ray B
J Ferrari 166 Inter Stablimenti Farina Berlinetta Ehhxekt
K Kaiser Darrin 1954 SeaLion
L 1972 Oldsmobile Cutlass Aaron65
M AMC Javelin AMX (1973) Ehhxekt
N 61 Dodge Dart Phoenix Paul Jaray
O Fiat Ritmo/Strada SeaLion
P Chevrolet Nomad SeaLion
Q Pontiac Bonneville Special Ray B
R Pontiac Solstice SeaLion
S Triumph TR3 Paul Jaray
T Saab 9X SeaLion
Item G was from a previous puzzle at a previous place. I remember it well...
That having been said, I'm keeping my guesses to myself until I know I have positive net points. That could be a while. :)
Then again, a quick demotion to rookie status might actually be invigorating ;D
I ain't goin' there. No way, no how. I mean, just look at J. I don't even know what the hell I'm looking at, let alone what car it's from. Is it a semaphore? A door opener? A bonnet latch? A tissue dispenser? Somebody may know, but it sure ain't me. As for N, I can't even come up with a single reasonable guesses for what it might be. So, I'm looking at a guarantee of -eleventybillion points here. I'll be sub-rookie.
Now, if the rules were modified just a tad, I'd be more inclined to get involved. Say, you get a provisional one for every correct answer and you get minus one for every incorrect. Get half and you net zero. Get less than half and you go in the toilet. The provisional points don't get permanently added to your total unless you get them all correct, at which point grobmotorix gets all ten points. Of course, you won't tell which ones are correct, nor even how many are right. Unless somebody guessed less than half.
I may be able to achieve half of them so I don't get penalized. Maybe.
But it's a helluva great puzzle, other than the fact that I'm a complete weenie when it comes to gambling with my points. The vig is just too high for my skills.
Serious question:
Is it within the spirit of the thing to think out loud, and share my thoughts with anyone else so bold as to make an official set of guesses? Basically donate my limited knowledge to someone more courageous than I. :)
There's a lot of good digging to be done here, and I think it'd make for interesting discourse, but I don't want to water down the spirit of the thing....high risk, high reward.
BTW, Great puzzle submission, even if it scares the hell out of me :applause:
Do I understand the rules right? ???
I just have to make 14 wrong guesses and I can answer rookie puzzles again. And if I make 20 dumb guesses I can have a score of -7 so I then have to get 12 questions correct to be reinstated as a pro? :huh:
Tempting :nana:
Quote from: porridgehead on August 06, 2007, 04:03:13 PM
I ain't goin' there. No way, no how. I mean, just look at J. I don't even know what the hell I'm looking at, let alone what car it's from.
But it's a helluva great puzzle, other than the fact that I'm a complete weenie when it comes to gambling with my points. The vig is just too high for my skills.
The eblem beneath the whatzit should give you a place to begin looking... ???
I may employ your suggested rules in a future puzzle. :)
Quote from: Stephen M on August 06, 2007, 06:30:49 PM
Serious question:
Is it within the spirit of the thing to think out loud, and share my thoughts with anyone else so bold as to make an official set of guesses? Basically donate my limited knowledge to someone more courageous than I. :)
There's a lot of good digging to be done here, and I think it'd make for interesting discourse, but I don't want to water down the spirit of the thing....high risk, high reward.
Such thinking out loud and discussion is what the forum's all about, IMO. Have at it! ;D
As to the risk involved, I was hoping the experts who rack up points solving scads of expired rookie puzzles, might have a go at something a bit more challenging... ;)
Quote from: KarnUtz on August 07, 2007, 06:12:19 AM
The eblem beneath the whatzit should give you a place to begin looking... ???
I may employ your suggested rules in a future puzzle. :)
So that's what it is! That makes sense, or at least better sense than what I thought it might be.
It's your game, so it's your rules. Maybe if I whine hard enough, I'll get you to divulge other key hints about what I'm looking at., like that threshing combine in E, for instance.
OK, let me start: ;D
A: Volvo P1900 (forerunner for the P1800)
B:
C:
D:
E:
F:
G:
H: Ulf Sensor (swedish sportscar)
I:
J:
K: Kaiser-Darrin
L:
M:
N:
O: Fiat Ritmo/Strada mk.1
P: Chevrolet Nomad
Q:
R: Pontiac Soltice
S:
T: Saab 9X (concept from 2001)
I've added usernames to the community effort, so that anyone who submits official guesses knows who to credit (or blame, in my case :) )
A: Volvo P1900 (forerunner for the P1800) - SeaLion
B:
C:
D:
E:
F:
G: "Chauffeur notification system" from a Rolls Royce Phantom II - Stephen M
H: Ulf Sensor (swedish sportscar) - SeaLion
I:
J:
K: Kaiser-Darrin - SeaLion
L:
M:
N:
O: Fiat Ritmo/Strada mk.1 - SeaLion
P: Chevrolet Nomad - SeaLion
Q:
R: Pontiac Soltice - SeaLion
S:
T: Saab 9X (concept from 2001) - SeaLion
B : Aston Martin Le Mans
Wow! :o
You guys a burning through these more quickly than I thought. Nobody has set a foot wrong yet...
Bravo! ;D
A: Volvo P1900 (forerunner for the P1800) - SeaLion
B: Aston Martin Le Mans - ecurie
C:
D:
E:
F:
G: "Chauffeur notification system" from a Rolls Royce Phantom II - Stephen M
H: Ulf Sensor (swedish sportscar) - SeaLion
I:
J: Cisitalia 202 Gran Sport - SeaLion
K: Kaiser-Darrin - SeaLion
L:
M:
N: Dodge Polara 1961 - SeaLion
O: Fiat Ritmo/Strada mk.1 - SeaLion
P: Chevrolet Nomad - SeaLion
Q:
R: Pontiac Solstice - SeaLion
S:
T: Saab 9X (concept from 2001) - SeaLion
N is incorrect. :scratch:
The bottom left corner of E shows a lot more tubes than I'm accustomed to seeing on an underbody. I don't think it's a birdcage, but I do think there's a clue in there somehow.
Quote from: Stephen M on September 05, 2007, 03:39:53 PM
The bottom left corner of E shows a lot more tubes than I'm accustomed to seeing on an underbody. I don't think it's a birdcage, but I do think there's a clue in there somehow.
The underbody of this car was likely more carefully crafted than that of many of its contemporaries'.
:bump:
rebump
And a one more :bump:
S - Kurtiss 500m
Yep - not a Kurtis.
1961 / 2 Vauxhall Velox PA SX ?
No Vauxhalls...
D is two views of the same object.
Would larger photos help?
S - Triumph TR3-A
(I think it's not but it's too similar!)
Technically, it's a 3B, but I'll accept it. ;)
(http://www.autopuzzles.com/TR%203B.jpg)
:bump:
Erm
The TR2 had no grille, just an opening with the radiator behind
The TR3 had a grille which was the size and shape of the TR2's - approximately square with rounded corners. The grille itself had a more or less square mesh
The TR3A had the 'wide mouth' grille shown in both the above photos.
The "TR3B" didn't officially exist. It was externally identical to the TR3A but had the 2138cc engine of the TR4.
The Confusion comes because when Triumph modified the original TR3 they named the new model TR3A rather than retrospectively naming the original as TR3A and the new one as TR3B, which is what most manufacturers would have done.
Alrighty then...
Can any of our new members ID some of these bits?
Moved
With the advent of another "piece" puzzle, I thought a :bump: may be in order.
Picture "D" is two different views of the same assembly.
A bit of history - and a potential for extra points!
February 6, 1985
On this day, Walter L. Jacobs, founder of the first car rental company, died. Although he was "not exactly" the founder of the Hertz Corporation, Jacobs' car rental business became the Hertz Corporation after it was purchased by John Hertz in 1923. At the age of 22, Jacobs opened a car-rental business with a dozen Model T Fords that he personally repaired and maintained. Within five years, his business generated an annual revenue of around $1 million. After he sold his business to Mr. Hertz, the president of the Yellow Cab and Yellow Truck and Coach Manufacturing Company, Jacobs remained Hertz's top executive. In addition to its innovations within the car rental industry, Hertz also maintains the unusual distinction of having been a subsidiary of both the General Motors Corporation and Ford Motor Company.
In honor of the 24th anniversary of Mr Jacobs' passing, for today only - February 6th - I'm offering 10 additional points to whomever can solve the last remaining bit of this puzzle.
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on August 04, 2007, 07:19:02 AM
...Bits and Pieces...
Here's something a little different. A puzzle with a potential payoff, and a potential risk. These pictures - either heavily cropped shots of the parts you see every day or some of the parts that help them go - range from mundane to exotic automobiles, from a wide chronological range.
Name them all correctly to get 10 points. :)
Name less than all of them correctly, and loose a point from your current points rating for each misidentified picture. :o
A. (http://www.autopuzzles.com/A.jpg) B. (http://www.autopuzzles.com/B.jpg)
C. (http://www.autopuzzles.com/C.jpg) D. (http://www.autopuzzles.com/D.jpg)
E. (http://www.autopuzzles.com/E.jpg) F. (http://www.autopuzzles.com/F.jpg)
G. (http://www.autopuzzles.com/G.jpg) H. (http://www.autopuzzles.com/H.jpg)
I. (http://www.autopuzzles.com/I.jpg) J. (http://www.autopuzzles.com/J.jpg)
K. (http://www.autopuzzles.com/K.jpg) L. (http://www.autopuzzles.com/L.jpg)
M. (http://www.autopuzzles.com/M.jpg) N. (http://www.autopuzzles.com/N.jpg)
O. (http://www.autopuzzles.com/O.jpg) P. (http://www.autopuzzles.com/P.jpg)
Q. (http://www.autopuzzles.com/Q.jpg) R. (http://www.autopuzzles.com/R.jpg)
S. (http://www.autopuzzles.com/S.jpg) T. (http://www.autopuzzles.com/T.jpg)
OK, I going to drop the screwy scoring system, and just award normal points (i.e., no penalty for incorrect answers). Here are the correct ID's so far.
A Volvo P1900 Sport 1956 SeaLion
B 1932 Aston Martin Le Mans ecurie
C Need a clue? :scratch: Ask!
D Need a clue? :scratch: Ask!
E Need a clue? :scratch: Ask!
F Need a clue? :scratch: Ask!
G Rolls Limo Comm Device Stephen M
H ULF Sensor GTR SeaLion
I 1966 Mustang Ray B
J Ferrari 166 Inter Stablimenti Farina Berlinetta Ehhxekt
K Kaiser Darrin 1954 SeaLion
L Need a clue? :scratch: Ask!
M AMC Javelin AMX (1973) Ehhxekt
N Need a clue? :scratch: Ask!
O Fiat Ritmo/Strada SeaLion
P Chevrolet Nomad SeaLion
Q Pontiac Bonneville Special Ray B
R Pontiac Solstice SeaLion
S Triumph TR3 Paul Jaray
T Saab 9X SeaLion
J is been already solved.
Are I-N and Q american?
Quote from: Paul Jaray on March 01, 2009, 03:17:04 PM
J is been already solved.
Are I-N and Q american?
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Though SeaLion declared J solved, he was in fact incorrect.
I, N and Q are indeed American.
I is very simply the first Mustang (1964 1/2-1966).
That's it! I see you were drawn to the car pictured with a girl. ;D
(http://www.autopuzzles.com/1966%20Mustang.jpg)
J – 1949 Ferrari 166 Inter Berlinetta by Stabilimenti Farina
M – 1971-74 AMC Javelin AMX
You're right!
Could B be a steam engine? ::) I really dunno what does one may look like... :P
Nope - a tad more ordinary than that.
Q might be the 1955 Oldsmobile Delta 88 concept car.
Not that car, but not all that far off, either.
Then this is the 1954 Pontiac Bonneville Special
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on March 03, 2009, 04:15:06 PM
Nope - a tad more ordinary than that.
There's a clue in there...
:lurk:
Quote from: The Unkown Auto Puzzler=topic=2425.msg23103#msg23103 date=1201364310
Hey - Otto: Any way we can get a bigger pic of the unsolved pieces?
Yes, I believe I can accommodate that! Stand by...
OK - D is a pair of the same thing. They are carburetors from a car that is well-known by regulars of this site.
The underside of "E" has a bit of a keel to it. Amphicar?
No, E was much better at doing the things cars do. Especially fast ones.
Black holers?
Quote from: Joao Gois on March 03, 2009, 12:12:55 PM
Could B be a steam engine? ::) I really dunno what does one may look like... :P
I meant D, not B. Or a Square-4? ::)
D is part of a conventional, internal combustion engine car. This part was on most every gasoline-engine car until quite recently.
Then it seems like a twin-barrel carburettor... no?
A carb it is!
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on July 10, 2009, 06:49:03 AM
OK - D is a pair of the same thing. They are carburetors from a car that is well-known by regulars of this site.
A black carburetor? What is it made of?
Painted iron, I suspect.
.
This thread is proof positive that there is and always will be an inexhaustible supply of AutoPuzzles.
So D is a carb. Is it particularly noteworthy in terms of being the first with a given technology, or the first from a famous manufacturer? Or should I continue digging through ancient service manuals hoping to get lucky? :)
As an aside, I found a shop willing to identify any carb for $10; but they don't work with pictures, you have to send it to them. Oh well.
Quote from: Stephen M on March 07, 2010, 04:30:57 PM
So D is a carb. Is it particularly noteworthy in terms of being the first with a given technology, or the first from a famous manufacturer? Or should I continue digging through ancient service manuals hoping to get lucky? :)
The latter.
The first Weber carb of note I'm told was a two-barrel sidedraft sold as part of a Fiat hop-up kit in the 20s and 30s. "D" Looks like a two-barrel sidedraft, and possibly of that vintage, so lacking any other earthly insight, that's my guess.
Not a weber, and a bit newer, too.
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on March 11, 2010, 03:48:23 AM
Not a weber, and a bit newer, too.
Fact czech - yep: correct! This immediate prewar device is not a Weber carb.
C? I'm should be eating French fries, not popcorn. :popcorn:
E: Did any Norse explorers make it to Arizona? :scratch:
F: I could write a sonnet, 'bout clasping down this bonnet.
Maybe we could play hangman?
E: Aetek FYK?
I'd post a full picture of E, but am afraid the simultaneous slapping of foreheads across the globe might make for too loud a sound, scaring small children, widows, and cats.
And now, an Ode to D:
To rush to the fore
means going behind
Look for D atop the V
where no water you'll find
Thank you. Thank you very much :bow:
C'mon - I'm practically GIVING you the answers. :o
So D is from a car with an aircooled V-form engine in the rear ??? A Tatra ! Is the carb a Jikov?
Tatra is correct! I have it saved as a Zenith carb, but "carb from a Tatra" is good enough here.
Was the Jikov a copy of Zenith, or no relation between both?
Quote from: Ray B. link=topic=2425.msg123942#msg123942 date=
Was the Jikov a copy of Zenith, or no relation between both?
I don't know.
What the L, I say. One of the oldest, is also one of the more recently deceased.
Won't anyone race to name E and F? Gee...
Is L a 1970 Olds 442 W30 hood?
Quote from: Aaron65 on November 10, 2010, 05:31:53 PM
Is L a 1970 Olds 442 W30 hood?
I have it down as a '72, but that's close enough for me. Did the clue help?
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on August 16, 2007, 06:06:21 AM
N is incorrect. :scratch:
Very close to correct though - right make; wrong car...
(see page one)
N - 1961 Dodge Dart Phoenix?
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on November 11, 2010, 04:43:57 AM
Quote from: Aaron65 on November 10, 2010, 05:31:53 PM
Is L a 1970 Olds 442 W30 hood?
I have it down as a '72, but that's close enough for me. Did the clue help?
I guess I didn't notice the clue...there's only a few cars with hood pins and scoops like that that I could think of--the '68 GT500 and W30s... How about a clue for the "race" cars of E and F?
Start at the beginning - lots of clues to be found...
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on June 24, 2010, 06:18:57 AM
E: Did any Norse explorers make it to Arizona? :scratch:
Is there a race car named Viking? It seems familiar but I can't find anything about it...F couldn't be as easy as a Saab could it???
Quote from: Aaron65 on November 12, 2010, 04:24:31 PMIs there a race car named Viking? It seems familiar but I can't find anything about it...F couldn't be as easy as a Saab could it???
There probably is a race car named Viking somewhere, but not in this puzzle. Keep working that angle and you may just get it....
F is not a Saab
Quote from: Paul Jaray on November 11, 2010, 06:09:23 AM
N - 1961 Dodge Dart Phoenix?
I think this one has to be right...
As this puzzle is over three years old, I've lost some detail on the remaining bits and pieces. To move this one to solved, I'll settle for general answers.
Two of the remaining vehicles are very well-know race cars, and the wheel (for those of you who didn't recognize it as such) is from a well-know but extinct manufacturer from Europe.
I'll get started by guessing the wheel is from a Delage...
Is one of the race cars a Chapparral?
QuoteI'll get started by guessing the wheel is from a Delage...
Yes!
QuoteIs one of the race cars a Chapparral?
Yes, but which pic?
I think E is the Chaparral, but I reserve my right to change it to F if I'm wrong. ;D
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on June 24, 2010, 06:22:57 AM
F: I could write a sonnet, 'bout clasping down this bonnet.
OK, does this mean this car is English or Italian??? aka...Shakesperean or Petrarchan sonnet??? :D
Quote from: Aaron65 on November 24, 2010, 06:31:16 AM
I think E is the Chaparral, but I reserve my right to change it to F if I'm wrong. ;D
Correct!
Quote from: Aaron65 on November 26, 2010, 08:26:09 AM
OK, does this mean this car is English or Italian??? aka...Shakesperean or Petrarchan sonnet??? :D
It meant neither. It is a reference to a holiday song from the first half of the 20th century.
The car does have British lineage.
I'm having a hard time with f...I'm not even sure what part of the car it would be on...it looks too thin to be a spoiler...I'm going to throw a dart and guess Lotus...
Not a spoiler, and not a Lotus.
If you're a fan of auto racing, you've seen this item many, many times.
Is it from an open-wheel, single seater car or a sports racer of some sort?
Yes
Am I on the right track if I say something like a Cooper?
Only remotely
Would it be a car that would have raced at, say, LeMans in the 1960s--aka...a prototype of some sort?
Yes!
OK, so it's a LeMans racer with British lineage from the 1960s...I'll start with the obvious and work my way down, since I still have no idea what the picture represents--how about a Ford GT(40)?
Quote from: Aaron65 on November 28, 2010, 09:10:36 AM
OK, so it's a LeMans racer with British lineage from the 1960s...I'll start with the obvious and work my way down, since I still have no idea what the picture represents--how about a Ford GT(40)?
Yes!
Points awarded as follows:
Aaron65 4
ecurie 1
Ehhxekt 2
guido66 1
Paul Jaray 2
Ray B 2
SeaLion 7
Stephen M 1
Ah, the Gulf GT40...my favorite race car of all time! It should have been obvious!