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Title: KU's Puzzle # 1590 - Kline 6-60 Detachable Coupe Roadster
Post by: Otto Puzzell on March 31, 2010, 05:37:00 AM
(http://www.autopuzzles.com/cr2GupH2.jpg)

Know what it is?

Please, respond below and share your knowledge of what this is, and who built it.
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Title: Re: KU's Puzzle # 1590
Post by: Otto Puzzell on April 07, 2010, 04:03:47 AM
Experts?
Title: Re: KU's Puzzle # 1590
Post by: ftg3plus4 on April 07, 2010, 08:32:35 AM
I could almost swear I've seen this dang thing before, but I'm not positive. American?
Title: Re: KU's Puzzle # 1590
Post by: Otto Puzzell on April 07, 2010, 09:42:51 AM
Yes; from the US.
Title: Re: KU's Puzzle # 1590
Post by: ftg3plus4 on April 07, 2010, 09:48:14 AM
Name in the A-L range?
Title: Re: KU's Puzzle # 1590
Post by: Otto Puzzell on April 07, 2010, 09:50:33 AM
Yes
Title: Re: KU's Puzzle # 1590
Post by: ftg3plus4 on April 07, 2010, 10:01:14 AM
In the G-L part of that range?
Title: Re: KU's Puzzle # 1590
Post by: Otto Puzzell on April 07, 2010, 10:28:56 AM
That's the last guess of this type I'm going to answer.

Yes, it's in that range.

How about some guesses about the car, its features, or the company that built it?
Title: Re: KU's Puzzle # 1590
Post by: ftg3plus4 on April 07, 2010, 10:51:51 AM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on April 07, 2010, 10:28:56 AM
That's the last guess of this type I'm going to answer.
I was wondering when someone would get annoyed by questions like that. OK, I'll back off and let the people with actual car knowledge step in.
Title: Re: KU's Puzzle # 1590
Post by: Ray B. on April 07, 2010, 11:57:08 AM
Quote from: ftg3plus4 on April 07, 2010, 09:48:14 AM
Name in the A-L range?

I'd say that type of questioning should be banned, it's too stupid (sorry to say it, strangest user name, but you're not the only one to use it).
At the same time, too many laws kills the law.

So why don't you guys try to be a little more clever?
Title: Re: KU's Puzzle # 1590
Post by: ftg3plus4 on April 07, 2010, 12:16:22 PM
Quote from: Ray B. on April 07, 2010, 11:57:08 AM
I'd say that type of questioning should be banned

I'm sure there are some puzzlers who are more bothered by it than others. But as long as it's made clear exactly what "type" of questioning is being banned, I won't argue. I'd personally suggest limiting "alphabetic" questions to a minimum range of letters (maybe 7 or so) rather than disallowing them altogether.

As it is, I'll admit I've only managed to solve a few puzzles by such questioning (combined with narrowing down the make's country & timeframe).
Title: Re: KU's Puzzle # 1590
Post by: Ray B. on April 07, 2010, 04:17:08 PM
Strangest user name, if you read me well you can see that I didn't eventually propose to BAN it. I said it was a boring, uninventive and silly way to solve puzzles. I would feel ashamed to use it.
So, limiting it to a 7, 5,12 or 15 letter range doesn't make it less stupid.

So, everyone is free to use it, or to be a truly elegant puzzler and make educated guesses. And the puzzle poster is free to answer the 452 posts it will eventually take to narrow it down to the solution, or, like Otto did, to declare that he has better things to do.
Title: Re: KU's Puzzle # 1590
Post by: ftg3plus4 on April 07, 2010, 08:32:39 PM
Quote from: Ray B. on April 07, 2010, 04:17:08 PMI said it was a boring, uninventive and silly way to solve puzzles. I would feel ashamed to use it.
I can't argue with that. Once in a while it's led to the solution of a puzzle (usually with a pre-war car) that didn't seem to be going anywhere any other way. But as far as convincing me to not to use it anymore... you've said all you need to.
Title: Re: KU's Puzzle # 1590
Post by: Otto Puzzell on April 14, 2010, 05:11:17 AM
OK - Pros?
Title: Re: KU's Puzzle # 1590
Post by: pnegyesi on April 14, 2010, 06:20:00 AM
Herresshoff Model 25?
Title: Re: KU's Puzzle # 1590
Post by: Otto Puzzell on April 14, 2010, 07:19:23 AM
No, not one of those.
Title: Re: KU's Puzzle # 1590
Post by: Otto Puzzell on May 01, 2010, 05:04:18 AM
Perhaps a peek at what's under the bonnet will help?

(http://www.autopuzzles.com/1590%20Engine.jpg)
Title: Re: KU's Puzzle # 1590
Post by: Paul Jaray on May 01, 2010, 06:38:05 PM
I don't think it's an Hupmobile Model 20-F Coupe...it would be too easy.
Is this a Jonz Model C coupe from 1911?
Title: Re: KU's Puzzle # 1590
Post by: Otto Puzzell on May 02, 2010, 05:06:57 AM
Neither one of those.

The Hupmobile is from the right country; and the decade of the second guess is correct.
Title: Re: KU's Puzzle # 1590
Post by: Paul Jaray on May 02, 2010, 05:58:02 AM
Looks lika an Imperial from Jackson, but can't find a coupe in their 1911 line-up...
Title: Re: KU's Puzzle # 1590
Post by: Otto Puzzell on May 02, 2010, 05:58:27 AM
Not one of those. And remember - I said correct decade, not year.
Title: Re: KU's Puzzle # 1590
Post by: Paul Jaray on May 02, 2010, 06:01:55 AM
D'OH!
Lion Huron King Krit Lozier Gaylord Howard
So far so good?
Jackson?
Title: Re: KU's Puzzle # 1590
Post by: Otto Puzzell on May 02, 2010, 06:54:55 AM
Through the process of elimination, I believe you will get there soon.

Another clue - this make's name has only one syllable.
Title: Re: KU's Puzzle # 1590
Post by: DynaMike on May 02, 2010, 06:45:53 PM
Wild (and not educated) guess: Knox ?
Title: Re: KU's Puzzle # 1590
Post by: Otto Puzzell on May 03, 2010, 04:04:26 AM
No Knox here.
Title: Re: KU's Puzzle # 1590
Post by: pnegyesi on May 03, 2010, 05:37:20 AM
There were not too many Six Cylinder cars back then. I was inclined to say Grant from Detroit, but it looked different. So how about Grant Six from Cleveland, Ohio?
Title: Re: KU's Puzzle # 1590
Post by: Otto Puzzell on May 03, 2010, 05:56:17 AM
Not a Grant
Title: Re: KU's Puzzle # 1590
Post by: pnegyesi on May 03, 2010, 06:04:50 AM
Even if I won't find the car, I have to tell you, that I am grateful for this puzzle - during my research I found three small museums in Ohio, which feature locally built cars. They are great additions to my museums' guide
Title: Re: KU's Puzzle # 1590
Post by: pnegyesi on May 03, 2010, 06:08:00 AM
How about a Ghent? It offered a six-cylinder in 1918.
Title: Re: KU's Puzzle # 1590
Post by: Otto Puzzell on May 03, 2010, 06:10:24 AM
Not a Ghent
Title: Re: KU's Puzzle # 1590
Post by: pnegyesi on May 03, 2010, 06:37:09 AM
How about the short-living Light Six from 1914?
Title: Re: KU's Puzzle # 1590
Post by: Otto Puzzell on May 03, 2010, 07:35:04 AM
Not one of those.

Title: Re: KU's Puzzle # 1590
Post by: Paul Jaray on May 04, 2010, 03:36:06 AM
American:                 thousands
From Michigan:       598
In the G-L range:    129
One syllabe:            29 (circa)
Active in the 10s:    15
Six cyl.:                     3 Grant-King-Krit

still working on it...
Krit?
Title: Re: KU's Puzzle # 1590
Post by: Otto Puzzell on May 04, 2010, 05:17:54 AM
Not sure where G-L range came from. I'll call it serendipity

This car is not from Michigan. Only 47 states to go... ;)
Title: Re: KU's Puzzle # 1590
Post by: Paul Jaray on May 04, 2010, 05:23:31 AM
 :o :o
Quote from: ftg3plus4 on April 07, 2010, 10:01:14 AM
In the G-L part of that range?
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on April 07, 2010, 10:28:56 AM
That's the last guess of this type I'm going to answer.
Yes, it's in that range.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on May 01, 2010, 06:38:05 PM
I don't think it's an Hupmobile Model 20-F Coupe...it would be too easy.
Is this a Jonz Model C coupe from 1911?
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on May 02, 2010, 05:06:57 AM
Neither one of those.

The Hupmobile is from the right country; and the decade of the second guess is correct.
Title: Re: KU's Puzzle # 1590
Post by: Paul Jaray on May 04, 2010, 05:24:37 AM
...so it was a generic Country, like USA... :-\
Title: Re: KU's Puzzle # 1590
Post by: Otto Puzzell on May 04, 2010, 05:27:48 AM
I forgot about the G-L guess. Working far to may hours these days.  :P

Yes, the Generic United States of America is the correct nation.   ;)
Title: Re: KU's Puzzle # 1590
Post by: pnegyesi on May 06, 2010, 01:07:28 PM
Was this a prototype or produced in series?
Title: Re: KU's Puzzle # 1590
Post by: Otto Puzzell on May 07, 2010, 04:18:22 AM
It was a series produced automobile, though I expect it was not a big seller. The company folded well before the great depression. After the Great War, there was a recession in the US economy, which hurt pricy brands such as this one. Before they folded, they we producing cars out of assembled components, including engines, purchased elsewhere.

Regarding an answer I gave before, this brand is sometimes referred to by a two-word name. Each word was a single syllable, and started with the same letter. Different references referred to the car by one name, others by two.
Title: Re: KU's Puzzle # 1590
Post by: pnegyesi on May 09, 2010, 03:18:26 AM
Kline Kar fits most of the requirements, though I think Kline got two syllables ...
Title: Re: KU's Puzzle # 1590
Post by: Otto Puzzell on May 09, 2010, 04:44:29 AM
Yes, that's the make. Company sometimes called Kline Car, Sometimes called just Kline. Just like I said in the preceding post.

I'm going to need a bit more detail before this one is deemed 'solved'

Title: Re: KU's Puzzle # 1590
Post by: Otto Puzzell on May 09, 2010, 06:42:57 AM
Done!
Title: Re: KU's Puzzle # 1590
Post by: pnegyesi on May 09, 2010, 07:41:25 AM
I think, this is a Kline Model 6-42 Detachable Coupe, 1915
Title: Re: KU's Puzzle # 1590
Post by: Otto Puzzell on May 09, 2010, 08:54:56 AM
Close - still locked.

Strike that - you're close enough. For putting up with my bumbling of yet another puzzle, the point is your.

This one is a Kline 6-60 Detachable Coupe Roadster
Title: Re: KU's Puzzle # 1590 - Kline 6-60 Detachable Coupe Roadster
Post by: pnegyesi on May 09, 2010, 09:21:30 AM
Thank you