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Title: KU's Puzzle #1620 - The Baldwin Payne Special
Post by: Otto Puzzell on April 30, 2010, 04:38:52 AM
(http://www.autopuzzles.com/3rucRES8.jpg)

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Please, respond below and identify what this is, and who built it.
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Title: Re: KU's Puzzle #1620
Post by: Otto Puzzell on May 06, 2010, 04:47:09 AM
Don't forget me, rookies... 8)
Title: Re: KU's Puzzle #1620
Post by: Otto Puzzell on May 07, 2010, 04:57:58 AM
C'est la vie.

On to the experts...
Title: Re: KU's Puzzle #1620
Post by: metalshapes on May 07, 2010, 12:17:33 PM
The Baldwin Payne Special
Title: Re: KU's Puzzle #1620
Post by: metalshapes on May 07, 2010, 12:21:49 PM
As told by Philip Payne's son...

This car is probably the most memorable "Sports Rod" of the early days of the sports car movement in America, being a typical example of a late 1940s "California Hot Rod", carried a step beyond what the normal hot rodders were doing at the time. Known in the States as an AV8, i.e. an A Type Ford chassis housing a Ford V8 motor.
In 1947, my late father, Philip Payne, drove across the States in a Brook- lands Riley, before working at Roger Barlow's 'International Motors' in Los Angeles. He became interested in the local sports car and hot rod scene and was an early member of the California Sports Car Club, as well as The Glendale Sidewinders (SCTA).
He purchased this Special (91 S 663) in November 1947, from Willis Baldwin of Santa Barbara – the "father" of road racing specials. Baldwin built this, the first of four specials, in 1947, using the frame of a 1932 Ford.
Title: Re: KU's Puzzle #1620
Post by: Otto Puzzell on May 07, 2010, 12:22:02 PM
That's correct, of course.

I'll post a bit more background on this car later
Title: Re: KU's Puzzle #1620 - The Baldwin Payne Special
Post by: Otto Puzzell on May 08, 2010, 05:35:23 AM
Here's what I have: this 1948 (not '47) hot rod/sports car special was constructed by Willis Baldwin for Phil Payne. Based on a '32 Ford chassis, shortened to a 103 inch wheelbase. 268 Mercury flathead with an Isky cam, 9:1 heads from Evans, and a tri-carb setup. The engine sat 15 arrears of stock. Merc clutch, Ford 3-speed and a homemade shift linkage, driving a 3.78:1 rear. Payne took this car back to the UK when he returned to his native land.
Title: Re: KU's Puzzle #1620 - The Baldwin Payne Special
Post by: Carnut on October 29, 2014, 09:20:35 AM
In colour:

Title: Re: KU's Puzzle #1620 - The Baldwin Payne Special
Post by: Otto Puzzell on October 29, 2014, 10:43:00 AM
Nice!