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From Europe?
Not from there.
Pros?
USA?
Yes
East coast?
Yes
New York state?
Yep.
Now, for some guesses about the car. ;)
Coming up, I just wanted to locate it geographically. I have to find the English word for Spitzkühler, probably wedge-shaped radiator. So did it have a wedge-shaped radiator? It was popular in Germany, but not so much in USA
Can this be another Singer? A Singer Six perhaps?
Quote from: pnegyesi on May 24, 2010, 11:53:36 AM
Coming up, I just wanted to locate it geographically. I have to find the English word for Spitzkühler, probably wedge-shaped radiator. So did it have a wedge-shaped radiator? It was popular in Germany, but not so much in USA
Every car I have seen from this brand (and there were not a lot of them) has a similar radiator shell. I don't know if the radiator itself was veed. I have never examined one of these cars other than in pictures and text.
Quote from: pnegyesi on May 24, 2010, 12:53:09 PM
Can this be another Singer? A Singer Six perhaps?
Not a Singer.
So this was one was located in NY state and existed for only a few years. Was it active in the 1910s only?
That's right.
Is there anything which is distinctive about this brand, aside from its radiator? Like its engine or chassis?
Is this an Edwards Knight? (sorry for the two questions, I am off to sleep now and won't see your answer to the other q 'til tomorrow)
Quote from: pnegyesi on May 24, 2010, 02:55:39 PM
Is there anything which is distinctive about this brand, aside from its radiator? Like its engine or chassis?
Cars of this make were quite expensive, and were alleged to have prodigious performance
I found a pic of a 1915 Biddle with a similar grille.
Is it a Biddle?
Is this an FRP by Finley Robertson Porter? It seems to fit all criteria
Quote from: metalshapes on May 24, 2010, 10:19:43 PM
I found a pic of a 1915 Biddle with a similar grille.
Is it a Biddle?
No
And how about my guess, regarding FRP?
Can you give me all of 5 minutes, please?
Yes, it's an FRP, from 1916
F. R. P.
The Finley-Robertson-Porter Co.
Port Jefferson, Long Island NY
1914-1918
In 1910 Finley Robertson Porter designed a powerful T-head engine for Mercer Automobile Co. before forming The Finley-Robertson-Porter Co. of Port Jefferson, Long Island NY. Porter produced an American Automobile called the F. R. P. using the initials in his name. Finley Robertson Porter was Mercer's chief engineer prior to 1914 and was prominent in early automotive history.
Porter designed his F. R. P. automobiles with three different wheelbase sizes. The Series A with a 110 in wheelbase and used on his racing models. Series B cars were 140 inches and Series C cars were 130 inches. Body styles included a Racer, Victoria, Town Car and a 7 passenger touring car.
I apologize for being impatient
No worries - was was rude. It is I who should apologize to you. :-[
Here is a picture of the only FRP that is known to remain intact. It's at the Seal Cove Auto Museum in Maine. This is a 1916 example.
A 1914 F.R.P. Model B Runabout appeared at the 2002 Retromobile in Paris.
Several pictures of the Runabout are available online, with watermarks by Trombinoscar.com.
I have attached an image of the Runabout, from another source.