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Title: OP #1633 - Sadler MK V
Post by: Otto Puzzell on May 11, 2010, 05:06:05 AM
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Please, respond below with what this is, and who built it.
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Title: Re: OP #1633
Post by: StudebakerHawk on May 15, 2010, 11:14:38 AM
Is it just me that thinks it's odd having 6 intakes but 8 exhausts?
Title: Re: OP #1633
Post by: Otto Puzzell on May 15, 2010, 11:59:39 AM
Quote from: StudebakerHawk on May 15, 2010, 11:14:38 AM
Is it just me that thinks it's odd having 6 intakes but 8 exhausts?

No, but you are in the minority
Title: Re: OP #1633
Post by: Otto Puzzell on May 20, 2010, 03:33:39 AM
Experts?
Title: Re: OP #1633
Post by: metalshapes on May 20, 2010, 04:40:01 AM
McKee?
Title: Re: OP #1633
Post by: Otto Puzzell on May 20, 2010, 04:53:09 AM
Not one of those.
Title: Re: OP #1633
Post by: metalshapes on May 21, 2010, 08:49:29 PM
Is it a British Sports Racingcar that was later converted to V8 power?
Title: Re: OP #1633
Post by: Otto Puzzell on May 22, 2010, 03:03:20 AM
No, not a British chassis
Title: Re: OP #1633
Post by: Otto Puzzell on May 28, 2010, 04:32:07 AM
Bumping this one up a day early, for the benefit of the racing fans in the Pro section.
Title: Re: OP #1633
Post by: Allemano on May 28, 2010, 04:37:33 AM
from the USA?
Title: Re: OP #1633
Post by: Otto Puzzell on May 28, 2010, 04:54:21 AM
Yes!
Title: Re: OP #1633
Post by: Allemano on May 28, 2010, 05:07:06 AM
From the 1950s or later?
Title: Re: OP #1633
Post by: Allemano on May 28, 2010, 05:47:56 AM
Any relation to Trevor Harris?

I looks like a Chevy V8 with a pair of triple carburetors
Title: Re: OP #1633
Post by: Otto Puzzell on May 28, 2010, 06:07:50 AM
QuoteAny relation to Trevor Harris?

Not that I am aware of.

QuoteI looks like a Chevy V8 with a pair of triple carburetors

That's a Chevy mill, all right.
Title: Re: OP #1633
Post by: Allemano on May 28, 2010, 06:19:36 AM
Quote from: Allemano on May 28, 2010, 05:07:06 AM
From the 1950s or later?
???
Title: Re: OP #1633
Post by: Otto Puzzell on May 28, 2010, 06:26:11 AM
Yes!  ;D
Title: Re: OP #1633
Post by: Otto Puzzell on May 28, 2010, 06:26:41 AM
Ever-so-slightly after the 1950's
Title: Re: OP #1633
Post by: Allemano on May 28, 2010, 06:31:31 AM
Had it been ever active as a racing car?

Has it something to do with the Lotus 19?
Title: Re: OP #1633
Post by: Otto Puzzell on May 28, 2010, 09:54:11 AM
Quote from: Allemano on May 28, 2010, 06:31:31 AM
Had it been ever active as a racing car?

Has it something to do with the Lotus 19?

Similar suspension design, and general configuration
Title: Re: OP #1633
Post by: Allemano on May 28, 2010, 10:01:00 AM
I think I need to see it dressed.. :sigh:
Title: Re: OP #1633
Post by: Otto Puzzell on May 28, 2010, 10:11:40 AM
But that would be a dead giveaway!  ;D

Maybe I can show a snippet....
Title: Re: OP #1633
Post by: Allemano on May 28, 2010, 10:15:14 AM
would be fine if it's larger than 10 pixel x 10pixel ;D
Title: Re: OP #1633
Post by: Otto Puzzell on May 28, 2010, 10:20:59 AM
see above
Title: Re: OP #1633
Post by: Paul Jaray on May 28, 2010, 12:17:07 PM
Looks like a Maserati...
Title: Re: OP #1633
Post by: Allemano on May 28, 2010, 12:26:41 PM
This one is making me dizzy... I'm pretty sure I've seen it somewhere TODAY, but can't trace it back again!  >:(
Title: Re: OP #1633
Post by: Otto Puzzell on May 28, 2010, 12:48:30 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on May 28, 2010, 12:17:07 PM
Looks like a Maserati...

Race cars of this type and era look a lot alike. This car - not a Maserati - bears a strong resemblance to the Lotus Allemano named previously. In fact, if one were to see them side by side  ;) an untrained eye might think they were the same car, or at least from the same designer's pen. But they are not.
Title: Re: OP #1633
Post by: Otto Puzzell on May 28, 2010, 01:07:36 PM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on May 28, 2010, 04:54:21 AM
Yes!

Damn it! I really need a vacation.

Not from the US - From our neighbor to the North.
Title: Re: OP #1633
Post by: Allemano on May 29, 2010, 04:19:18 AM
A Cooper "Monaco"? (still don't know if it's from Canada, though)
Title: Re: OP #1633
Post by: Otto Puzzell on May 29, 2010, 04:22:29 AM
Not that car.
Title: Re: OP #1633
Post by: Otto Puzzell on May 29, 2010, 05:15:56 AM
The first Cooper Monaco mated to a Chevy engine underwent that transformation in 1964, IIRC, so that's too new.

This was the last racer from this designer's drawing board for a very long time. He went on to engineer very different items.
Title: Re: OP #1633
Post by: Allemano on May 29, 2010, 05:20:26 AM
Do forename and surname of this person start with the same character?
Title: Re: OP #1633
Post by: Otto Puzzell on May 29, 2010, 05:29:04 AM
No sir.
Title: Re: OP #1633
Post by: Allemano on May 29, 2010, 05:48:39 AM
It could be the Sadler MK V..
Title: Re: OP #1633
Post by: Otto Puzzell on May 29, 2010, 06:23:14 AM
It is!

Conceived and built in late 1960, the MK 5 was Bill Sadler's first rear mid-engined racer. Comstock Racing founder Chuck Rathgeb spied the car in Sadler's shop, and commissioned him to build a second example, and put up the money to sponsor both in the 1961 season. Seeing the compromises to his quality of life - his wife had left him during his 8-year building and racing stint, and citing differences with Rathgeb, Sadler closed up shop, and went back to work at Westinghouse as an electrical engineer. Moving to the US, he eared a master's degree in electrical engineering from MIT in 1966. Only many years later did Sadler return to cars, building a Formula V for himself, and participating in the vintage racing community.

Here's a shot of Sadler MkV reproduction (left) with a Lotus 19.

(http://www.autopuzzles.com/sadlerandlotus%20.jpg)
Title: Re: OP #1633
Post by: Otto Puzzell on May 29, 2010, 06:27:06 AM
And a fully finished MK5. The resemblance to the Lotus is even stronger here - they even share a number!

(http://www.autopuzzles.com/SadlerMK5.jpg)
Title: Re: OP #1633 - Sadler MK V
Post by: Allemano on May 29, 2010, 06:56:46 AM
I like how he arranged the exhaust pipes.

The engineers of the Cooper Monaco did it later quite similar:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o102/prjm3/img519.jpg)


I'm always wondering about the two seat configuration since I've never seen those cars co-piloted.
Title: Re: OP #1633 - Sadler MK V
Post by: Otto Puzzell on May 29, 2010, 07:14:42 AM
From the 'great minds think alike' department.
Title: Re: OP #1633 - Sadler MK V
Post by: faksta on May 29, 2010, 08:16:51 AM
Quote from: Allemano on May 29, 2010, 06:56:46 AMI'm always wondering about the two seat configuration since I've never seen those cars co-piloted.

That was done to give girls a ride.
Title: Re: OP #1633 - Sadler MK V
Post by: Allemano on May 29, 2010, 08:22:28 AM
Aaha!  :eyebrow: