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Title: Puzzle #1803 - BMW 303 Sport Rennwagen with Stiller Body
Post by: Otto Puzzell on December 07, 2010, 05:50:24 AM
Please, respond below and identify the car and the coachbuilder.  

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Title: Re: Puzzle #1803
Post by: Otto Puzzell on December 16, 2010, 05:32:22 AM
Experts
Title: Re: Puzzle #1803
Post by: woodinsight on December 18, 2010, 03:04:15 PM
Italian?
Title: Re: Puzzle #1803
Post by: Otto Puzzell on December 19, 2010, 03:51:53 AM
No
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Post by: woodinsight on December 19, 2010, 04:53:56 AM
European?
Title: Re: Puzzle #1803
Post by: Otto Puzzell on December 19, 2010, 05:03:57 AM
Yes
Title: Re: Puzzle #1803
Post by: woodinsight on December 19, 2010, 12:18:47 PM
French?
Title: Re: Puzzle #1803
Post by: Otto Puzzell on December 19, 2010, 12:47:29 PM
French?

no
Title: Re: Puzzle #1803
Post by: Carnut on December 19, 2010, 01:10:03 PM
Those look like Mercedes rear lights to me; so is it German?
Title: Re: Puzzle #1803
Post by: Otto Puzzell on December 20, 2010, 03:14:17 PM
Yes (but not Mercedes)
Title: Re: Puzzle #1803
Post by: D-type on December 20, 2010, 06:46:13 PM
Are the rear lights a later addition?
Title: Re: Puzzle #1803
Post by: Otto Puzzell on December 21, 2010, 04:14:54 AM
Possibly. This car was occasionally modified over the years, but it's basic configuration and look remain intact. 
Title: Re: Puzzle #1803
Post by: Otto Puzzell on December 25, 2010, 04:07:28 AM
Pros?
Title: Re: Puzzle #1803
Post by: woodinsight on December 26, 2010, 05:37:42 AM
Any BMW connection?
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Post by: Otto Puzzell on December 26, 2010, 07:41:12 AM
Indeed!
Title: Re: Puzzle #1803
Post by: Allan L on December 26, 2010, 08:36:02 AM
It appears to be a BMW 303 Sport which would originally date from c1933, but I can't find anything like it in Werner Oswald so it could have been rebodied into this form at more or less any time in the last 77 years - well perhaps not during 1939-45!
Title: Re: Puzzle #1803
Post by: Allemano on December 26, 2010, 09:09:12 AM
BMW 303 Sport Rennwagen (racing car) by Karosserie Stiller.
Title: Re: Puzzle #1803
Post by: Allan L on December 26, 2010, 09:21:43 AM
I see it is for sale! They say 1934, and imply it was bodied like that from the beginning. . . but it's got a 315 motor now.
Title: Re: Puzzle #1803
Post by: Otto Puzzell on December 26, 2010, 09:31:38 AM
BMW 303 Sport Rennwagen (racing car) by Karosserie Stiller.

That's it!

The rolling chassis was sold in 1934 at the BMW dealer Stösser in Munich. Coachbuilder Stiller built the race car body, which in the following years, underwent slight modifications. In the late 1930s, the larger 1.5-liter 6-cylinder from the BMW 315 was installed. As Allan noted, that engine remains in the car, which is for sale.
Title: Re: Puzzle #1803 - BMW 303 Sport Rennwagen with Stiller Body
Post by: Walt on January 06, 2013, 05:27:46 PM
This is my car.  I've had it since 1961.  Let me know if you have any questions. USA 704-201-7854
Walt
Title: Re: Puzzle #1803 - BMW 303 Sport Rennwagen with Stiller Body
Post by: Carnut on January 07, 2013, 07:11:48 AM
This is my car.  I've had it since 1961.  Let me know if you have any questions. USA 704-201-7854
Walt

Great to see its owner here.
You weren't really wanting to sell it were you?!
Title: Re: Puzzle #1803 - BMW 303 Sport Rennwagen with Stiller Body
Post by: Wendax on January 19, 2014, 04:17:03 PM
A photo from the 60s (sorry for the "watermark"):
Title: Re: Puzzle #1803 - BMW 303 Sport Rennwagen with Stiller Body
Post by: Paul Jaray on January 19, 2014, 05:16:12 PM
A photo from the 60s (sorry for the "watermark"):
The car crashed into it... :-\
Title: Re: Puzzle #1803 - BMW 303 Sport Rennwagen with Stiller Body
Post by: Wendax on April 14, 2018, 12:12:40 PM
Meanwhile some more facts have come to light. The car was built in 1934 for race driver Eugen Stösser. It is not a modified 303, but the chassis #46534 was a one-off, the engine was reduced to 1098 cc and placed further back, so that a Zoller supercharger could be placed in front of it (see the first four pictures below). In 1936 it was sold to Stiller, who changed the engine and added cycle wings as well as an aerodynamic front axle cover (see last picture below). Stiller sold the car in the early 1940s. After the war a two-litre engine was fitted, a windscreen and a roadster top added, and the rear was modified featuring 190 SL rear lights. The car has been carefully restored now.