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Title: Solved: 114. of All., Ghia proposal for FSO Warszawa
Post by: Allemano on November 25, 2008, 08:49:36 AM
If you know this car one point will be added to your account.
Sometimes it happens that I'd like to have additional information about the designer, engine or characteristics.
I will let you know on these occasions!
Title: Re: 114. of All.
Post by: ImpishGrin on November 25, 2008, 11:12:57 AM
Ghia's proposition for FSO Warszawa
Title: Re: 114. of All.
Post by: Allemano on November 25, 2008, 11:26:35 AM
Yep!
Title: Re: 114. of All.
Post by: DHoffmann on November 25, 2008, 11:48:13 AM
Quote from: ImpishGrin on November 25, 2008, 11:12:57 AM
Ghia's proposition for FSO Warszawa
Congratulations on reaching Expert status.
Title: Re: Solved: Ghia proposal for FSO Warszawa
Post by: ImpishGrin on November 25, 2008, 12:29:14 PM
Quote from: DHoffmann on November 25, 2008, 11:48:13 AM
Congratulations on reaching Expert status.
Oh, didn't even notice that :D Thanks. Does that mean that I can't answer in the rookie section any more?
Title: Re: Solved: Ghia proposal for FSO Warszawa
Post by: Allemano on November 25, 2008, 12:35:00 PM
indeed... ;)
Title: del78 no. 31
Post by: del78 on July 18, 2010, 06:02:05 PM
what is this for 1 point?
Title: Re: del78 no. 31
Post by: del78 on July 28, 2010, 05:22:03 AM
experts time
Title: Re: del78 no. 31
Post by: barrett on July 28, 2010, 10:02:10 AM
Japanese?
Title: Re: del78 no. 31
Post by: del78 on July 28, 2010, 10:38:42 AM
no
Title: Re: del78 no. 31
Post by: woodinsight on July 29, 2010, 12:55:24 PM
Peugeot 404 proposal?
Title: Re: del78 no. 31
Post by: del78 on July 29, 2010, 01:39:29 PM
no Peugeot
Title: Re: del78 no. 31
Post by: pguillem on July 29, 2010, 02:47:19 PM
BMC proposal ?
Title: Re: del78 no. 31
Post by: del78 on July 30, 2010, 03:57:53 AM
not BMC
Title: Re: del78 no. 31
Post by: DeAutogids on July 30, 2010, 05:47:49 AM
Fiat?
Title: Re: del78 no. 31
Post by: del78 on July 30, 2010, 06:47:23 AM
no
Title: Re: del78 no. 31
Post by: Carnut on July 30, 2010, 07:24:08 AM
Lancia?
Title: Re: del78 no. 31
Post by: del78 on July 30, 2010, 07:43:25 AM
no
Title: Re: del78 no. 31
Post by: barrett on July 30, 2010, 12:34:37 PM
European at all?
Title: Re: del78 no. 31
Post by: D-type on July 30, 2010, 06:00:56 PM
Early Ford Cortina proposal  ???
Title: Re: del78 no. 31
Post by: Allemano on July 30, 2010, 06:37:39 PM
:popcorn:
Title: Re: del78 no. 31
Post by: Otto Puzzell on July 31, 2010, 06:35:26 AM
Gimmee some of that popcorn.

Thanks!  :popcorn:
Title: Re: del78 no. 31
Post by: del78 on August 02, 2010, 02:46:24 AM
european it is
not Ford Cortina proposal
Title: Re: del78 no. 31
Post by: mymokke on August 04, 2010, 12:04:46 AM
Continental Europe ...... Opel maybe?
Title: Re: del78 no. 31
Post by: del78 on August 04, 2010, 02:43:30 AM
yes it is the continental one but not Opel
Title: Re: del78 no. 31
Post by: DeAutogids on August 04, 2010, 06:11:04 AM
German?
Title: Re: del78 no. 31
Post by: mymokke on August 04, 2010, 02:10:48 PM
Taunus - clay mockup?
Title: Re: del78 no. 31
Post by: del78 on August 06, 2010, 03:10:19 AM
not GErman a not a Taunus
Title: Re: del78 no. 31
Post by: barrett on August 06, 2010, 03:15:13 AM
Volvo?
Title: Re: del78 no. 31
Post by: del78 on August 06, 2010, 03:27:40 AM
no
Title: Re: del78 no. 31
Post by: pguillem on August 06, 2010, 11:07:23 AM
BMC ?
Title: Re: del78 no. 31
Post by: barrett on August 06, 2010, 11:34:34 AM
French?
Title: Re: del78 no. 31
Post by: del78 on August 06, 2010, 12:12:14 PM
not French and not BMC
Title: Re: del78 no. 31
Post by: barrett on August 06, 2010, 12:23:47 PM
Italian?
Title: Re: del78 no. 31
Post by: pguillem on August 06, 2010, 12:59:51 PM
SEATish ?
Title: Re: del78 no. 31
Post by: del78 on August 06, 2010, 01:21:31 PM
italian, kind of :)
Title: Re: del78 no. 31
Post by: barrett on August 06, 2010, 01:39:29 PM
Italian styist for a foreign marque?
Title: Re: del78 no. 31
Post by: del78 on August 06, 2010, 02:51:04 PM
exactly :)
Title: Re: del78 no. 31
Post by: Carnut on August 09, 2010, 07:59:10 AM
Ghia-bodied Polish FSO Warszawa prototype from the late 1950's?
Title: Re: del78 no. 31
Post by: del78 on August 09, 2010, 02:16:45 PM
locked for You and well deserved a point
but I need correct year of made
Title: Re: del78 no. 31
Post by: Carnut on August 09, 2010, 02:59:28 PM
Actually I have just found out this puzzle is a repost:

www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=5926.0

But the solution doesn't mention a date!

From what I can glean it seems to date from 1959, although some sites mention 1962...
Believe the 1962 car was actually the new 6-cylinder 210 (also designed by Ghia) so the 1959 date is most probably the correct one.
Title: Re: del78 no. 31
Post by: del78 on August 09, 2010, 03:06:25 PM
i did search for this in solved section but i do not know why it wasn't there
as I know this was Ghia proposal from 1962 both sedan and station wagon for new model range for FSO Warszawa
there was driveable prototypes but due political order those was scrapped, unfortunetly
should I give a point for a repost puzzle?
Title: Re: del78 no. 31
Post by: Allemano on August 09, 2010, 03:28:11 PM
Not a nice feeling to forget ones own puzzles...  :-\
Title: Re: del78 no. 31
Post by: Carnut on August 09, 2010, 03:52:53 PM
Quote from: del78 on August 09, 2010, 03:06:25 PM
i did search for this in solved section but i do not know why it wasn't there
as I know this was Ghia proposal from 1962 both sedan and station wagon for new model range for FSO Warszawa
there was driveable prototypes but due political order those was scrapped, unfortunetly
should I give a point for a repost puzzle?

Actually I think the 1959 date is far more likely.
Ghia would never have come up with such an out-dated proposal as late as 1962, e.g. the suggested fins at the rear; the headlights on top of the front wings.  By 1962 bodywork was much smoother and flatter and the headlights would have been incorporated into the grille as was pretty much the norm already in 1962.  Compare it with other Ghia designs from 1962!

In my defence I didn't know it was a repost until after I had already solved it; it was only whilst looking for the date that I was offered a picture of the car: on AutoPuzzles!
Title: Re: del78 no. 31
Post by: del78 on August 10, 2010, 02:55:54 AM
i checked the year one more time and it was 1959, You are right
then what should I do? is it a point for You?
Title: Re: Solved: 114. of All., Ghia proposal for FSO Warszawa
Post by: Otto Puzzell on August 10, 2010, 04:02:58 AM
Merged
Title: Re: del78 no. 31
Post by: Otto Puzzell on August 10, 2010, 04:06:31 AM
Quote from: Allemano on August 09, 2010, 03:28:11 PM
Not a nice feeling to forget ones own puzzles...  :-\

After almost 3 years and over 7,500 posts, you can't be expected to remember everything - robot or not! ;D
Title: Re: del78 no. 31
Post by: Carnut on August 10, 2010, 04:10:47 AM
Quote from: del78 on August 10, 2010, 02:55:54 AM
i checked the year one more time and it was 1959, You are right
then what should I do? is it a point for You?

Well I believe I earned the point, but then I would say that, wouldn't I?!
Better take advice from one of the moderators.

The 1962 Ghia proposal for a saloon and station wagon was probably the 210 model pictured below, which also never made production...:

Title: Re: del78 no. 31
Post by: Otto Puzzell on August 10, 2010, 04:17:11 AM
Quote from: Carnut on August 10, 2010, 04:10:47 AM
The 1962 Ghia proposal for a saloon and station wagon was probably the 210 model pictured below, which also never made production...:

I can delete that one from the "to be posted" folder.  :D
Title: Re: del78 no. 31
Post by: Carnut on August 10, 2010, 04:28:51 AM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on August 10, 2010, 04:17:11 AM
Quote from: Carnut on August 10, 2010, 04:10:47 AM
The 1962 Ghia proposal for a saloon and station wagon was probably the 210 model pictured below, which also never made production...:

I can delete that one from the "to be posted" folder.  :D

Oops, sorry..!
No good asking you if I deserve a point then...!
Title: Re: Solved: 114. of All., Ghia proposal for FSO Warszawa
Post by: del78 on August 10, 2010, 04:30:19 AM
Warszawa 210 was inhouse design from FSO factory
both running cars (station wagon and sedan) from Ghia was destroyed, it wasn't politically good for that times in Poland
then FSO made a 210 model and luckily it is survived and displayed in one of our Museum in Warsaw
there is a rumour that russian Volga GAZ was a copy of polish Warszawa 210
there was also one more design study for Warszawa:
Title: Re: Solved: 114. of All., Ghia proposal for FSO Warszawa
Post by: Carnut on September 05, 2013, 07:25:14 AM
Some photos of the original Ghia proposal have come to light; apparently previously all pictures were only of the clay model:

Title: Re: Solved: 114. of All., Ghia proposal for FSO Warszawa
Post by: Allemano on September 05, 2013, 11:05:44 AM
Very nice, thank you!
Title: Re: Solved: 114. of All., Ghia proposal for FSO Warszawa
Post by: grobmotorix on September 05, 2013, 04:27:55 PM
 :thumbsup: