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Title: Solved: 368. by Allemano - 1959 Storez Porsche Carrera GT bodied by Zagato
Post by: Allemano on January 15, 2010, 12:15:06 PM
looks familiar?
Title: Re: 368. by Allemano
Post by: Allemano on February 04, 2010, 07:02:48 AM
moved..
Title: Re: 368. by Allemano
Post by: Oswald on February 04, 2010, 08:03:21 AM
Rosier 4CV Barquette?
Title: Re: 368. by Allemano
Post by: Allemano on February 04, 2010, 08:13:23 AM
Not that!
Title: Re: 368. by Allemano
Post by: Joao Gois on February 05, 2010, 08:31:49 AM
Beetle-based?
Title: Re: 368. by Allemano
Post by: Allemano on February 05, 2010, 08:49:24 AM
Not Beetle based
Title: Re: 368. by Allemano
Post by: Joao Gois on February 05, 2010, 10:36:31 AM
Then Porsche-based?
Title: Re: 368. by Allemano
Post by: Allemano on February 06, 2010, 10:28:17 AM
Then Porsche-based?

Indeed!
Title: Re: 368. by Allemano
Post by: Otto Puzzell on February 07, 2010, 06:58:54 AM
Front page featured, and Tweeted, too!

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Title: Re: 368. by Allemano
Post by: Allemano on February 07, 2010, 07:38:57 AM
Thank you!
Title: Re: 368. by Allemano
Post by: Allemano on February 26, 2010, 12:42:51 PM
What about Professionals?
Title: Re: 368. by Allemano
Post by: faksta on February 27, 2010, 07:45:22 AM
Does 'F' on the plate suggest it's French? I'm not good in numberplates...
Title: Re: 368. by Allemano
Post by: guido66 on February 27, 2010, 08:39:46 AM
Even more specific: the 75 means that it was registered in Paris
Title: Re: 368. by Allemano
Post by: Allemano on February 28, 2010, 06:55:38 AM
The owner was French, but the car was bodied somewhere else!
Title: Re: 368. by Allemano
Post by: faksta on February 28, 2010, 10:07:07 AM
Netherlands?
Title: Re: 368. by Allemano
Post by: Allemano on February 28, 2010, 12:24:00 PM
Not from there!
Title: Re: 368. by Allemano
Post by: faksta on February 28, 2010, 12:57:04 PM
Maybe Germany?
Title: Re: 368. by Allemano
Post by: Allemano on March 01, 2010, 02:21:44 AM
The base is German.
Title: Re: 368. by Allemano
Post by: faksta on March 01, 2010, 04:19:15 AM
Ah, well, the car was Porsche based, Joao Gois has already come up with it... I'll stop guessing the country now and will rather try to find the car.
Title: Re: 368. by Allemano
Post by: Allemano on March 01, 2010, 04:31:12 AM
I think it will be quite surprising who did the coachwork for this car. Unfortunately it was very short lived.  :-\

I've searched the internet if there are infos available. Just found the car, but the story I have read went a little different...
Title: Re: 368. by Allemano
Post by: faksta on March 01, 2010, 05:20:45 AM
Is it, by any chance, 356 Zagato which Claude Storez and Robert Buchet raced in 1958 Tour de France? Looks quite similar.
Title: Re: 368. by Allemano
Post by: Allemano on March 01, 2010, 05:29:55 AM
Niceley done Sir! It's indeed the Zagato bodied 356 Storez based on a Carrera GT!

My source reports that this car was ordered by French GT-champion Claude Storez and that it was light-bodied by Zagato. In Stuttgart's Porsche factory the engine was optimized and after that a French mechanic ought to drive the car to Monsieur Storez to Paris. Unfortunately the car crashed near Stuttgart and got totally damaged.
Other sources tell a different story that Storez was killed in that particular car. I really have no idea which story is wrong and which right.
Title: Re: Solved: 368. by Allemano - 1959 Storez Porsche Carrera GT bodied by Zagato
Post by: faksta on March 01, 2010, 05:36:52 AM
There is one source (maybe the same as yours, but at the very bottom) telling that after the traffic accident the car was taken back to Zagato and rebuilt. At least the picture of 1959 Storez accident shows a very similar car.
As for the source, picture is taken form a big French forum... Was signed to be from Jacques Mertens' collection.
Title: Re: Solved: 368. by Allemano - 1959 Storez Porsche Carrera GT bodied by Zagato
Post by: Allemano on March 01, 2010, 06:24:49 AM
Quote from a well known source:

"(...)  the car was badly damaged by Michael Maniani, a cousin of Storez. Maniani took delivery of the car in Stuttgart and only made it 10 KM's out of town. The damaged car was taken to Zagato and rebuilt in time for the Tour de France were Storez raced it with race number 139. Later that year he was killed driving the Zagato at Rheims. The car was destroyed."
Title: Re: Solved: 368. by Allemano - 1959 Storez Porsche Carrera GT bodied by Zagato
Post by: Oswald on March 01, 2010, 10:36:32 AM
Now that's a surprise!
I happen to know that Zagato is building a 'Sanction 2'-version (they wouldn't call it a replica!) of this car right now.
Title: Re: Solved: 368. by Allemano - 1959 Storez Porsche Carrera GT bodied by Zagato
Post by: faksta on March 01, 2010, 10:48:10 AM
Really? Would it be a copy or rather a car inspired by the original?
Title: Re: Solved: 368. by Allemano - 1959 Storez Porsche Carrera GT bodied by Zagato
Post by: Oswald on March 01, 2010, 11:40:58 AM
An exact copy of the car on these pics.
So far, they only showed some renderings, but it can't take too long now before it's finished.
Title: Re: Solved: 368. by Allemano - 1959 Storez Porsche Carrera GT bodied by Zagato
Post by: faksta on March 01, 2010, 11:53:35 AM
These are definitely good news! Maybe a 2010 Mille Miglia will see the finished car?
Title: Re: Solved: 368. by Allemano - 1959 Storez Porsche Carrera GT bodied by Zagato
Post by: Oswald on March 01, 2010, 12:48:33 PM
That'd be nice!
Title: Re: Solved: 368. by Allemano - 1959 Storez Porsche Carrera GT bodied by Zagato
Post by: 75america on March 01, 2010, 02:39:42 PM
The rendering:

Has anybody more pictures of the original car?
Title: Re: Solved: 368. by Allemano - 1959 Storez Porsche Carrera GT bodied by Zagato
Post by: Allemano on March 01, 2010, 02:50:19 PM
That's the only ones I have:
Title: Re: Solved: 368. by Allemano - 1959 Storez Porsche Carrera GT bodied by Zagato
Post by: Oswald on March 01, 2010, 03:58:46 PM
Great stuff.
Where from?
Title: Re: Solved: 368. by Allemano - 1959 Storez Porsche Carrera GT bodied by Zagato
Post by: Allemano on March 01, 2010, 04:13:20 PM
From a brand-related book which was mentioned on Autopuzzles.com before...
Title: Re: Solved: 368. by Allemano - 1959 Storez Porsche Carrera GT bodied by Zagato
Post by: faksta on March 01, 2010, 04:43:52 PM
This car is beautiful. Looks like it was the design which Porsche applied to RS later, at least from the front.
Title: Solved - NEH 1623: Zagato Porsche 1500Z Spyder - 1953 (1956?)
Post by: Carnut on February 28, 2012, 07:14:38 AM
What's this, who built it, for whom and when?

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Title: Re: NEH 1623
Post by: Carnut on March 06, 2012, 04:31:41 AM
Experts?
Title: Re: NEH 1623
Post by: thewarlord on March 06, 2012, 08:39:01 AM
1957's Porsche 356 barchetta Zagato, a car which is by now being recreated at Zagato.
Title: Re: NEH 1623
Post by: Carnut on March 06, 2012, 02:38:17 PM
1957's Porsche 356 barchetta Zagato, a car which is by now being recreated at Zagato.

Close, but it's earlier than 1957 and it has a name.
Locked for you to come up with it.
Title: Re: NEH 1623
Post by: thewarlord on March 07, 2012, 02:45:15 AM
Possibly 1500Z, from 1953??

I wrote 1957 before because Zagato's book shows that figure.
Title: Re: NEH 1623
Post by: Carnut on March 07, 2012, 05:25:49 AM
It's what I had it as and what I was looking for, but I guess the Zagato book is more likely to be correct (although not necessarily so - I find plenty of errors in books!)

I also saw it quoted as 1956 on another website!

Here's a front view:

Title: Re: NEH 1623
Post by: Otto Puzzell on March 07, 2012, 05:37:21 AM
Possibly 1500Z, from 1953??

I wrote 1957 before because Zagato's book shows that figure.

You didn't have to flip him the bird, did you? :D
Title: Re: Solved - NEH 1623: Zagato Porsche 1500Z Spyder - 1953 (1956?)
Post by: SACO on March 07, 2012, 07:45:30 AM
The end of the car ?
Rallye des routes du Nord 1959 N°11  Claude Storez :
Title: Re: Solved - NEH 1623: Zagato Porsche 1500Z Spyder - 1953 (1956?)
Post by: Siata1 on March 07, 2012, 07:55:41 AM
The car was built on a Porsche 356 A Carrera GT. After final adjustments at the Porsche works, the mechanic of Claude Storez crashed the car a few kilometres away from Stuttgart.
Title: Re: Solved - NEH 1623: Zagato Porsche 1500Z Spyder - 1953 (1956?)
Post by: Carnut on March 07, 2012, 08:10:46 AM
The end of the car ?
Rallye des routes du Nord 1959 N°11  Claude Storez :

Yes, I meant to mention that the car was specially built for French raciang drive Claude Storez.
The first car built was crashed by a Zagato employee before it was delivered and they had to build another to replace it.
Sadly the crash you depict killed Storez.
Title: Re: Solved - NEH 1623: Zagato Porsche 1500Z Spyder - 1953 (1956?)
Post by: faksta on March 07, 2012, 03:04:06 PM
To make it whole :)

http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=10763.0 (http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=10763.0)
Title: Re: Solved - NEH 1623: Zagato Porsche 1500Z Spyder - 1953 (1956?)
Post by: Carnut on March 07, 2012, 06:27:22 PM
To make it whole :)

http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=10763.0 (http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=10763.0)

Well fancy that..

Looks like I need to merge it?
Title: Re: Solved: 368. by Allemano - 1959 Storez Porsche Carrera GT bodied by Zagato
Post by: Allemano on March 08, 2012, 02:29:10 AM
Looks like I need to merge it?
Done!
Title: Re: Solved: 368. by Allemano - 1959 Storez Porsche Carrera GT bodied by Zagato
Post by: Wendax on January 22, 2017, 02:53:04 AM
The official recreation: