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Title: Solved - als_026 - Formula 850
Post by: als15 on December 19, 2009, 08:25:19 AM
Twelve different Formula 850, made by twelve different firms, hence twelve points for you.
Hard to identify? No: everything is in a book about the 850 derivatives... but, uh, it'hasn't been published yet...  ;D

So, hurry up because when the book will be on sale, I'll close the puzzle anyway.
Title: Re: als_026 - Formula 850
Post by: als15 on December 21, 2009, 06:29:28 PM
No matters for Rookies...  ;D
So, up to Experts!
Title: Re: als_026 - Formula 850
Post by: pnegyesi on December 21, 2009, 11:34:48 PM
No2: Dagrada
No6: DeSanctis?
No11: Tagliani?
Title: Re: als_026 - Formula 850
Post by: als15 on December 22, 2009, 06:45:51 AM
No2: Dagrada
No6: DeSanctis?
:thumbsup:

No11: Tagliani?
:thumbsdown:
Title: Re: als_026 - Formula 850
Post by: pnegyesi on December 22, 2009, 06:51:24 AM
Do we have a Tagliani in this puzzle?

And can No11 then be a Fagioli?
Title: Re: als_026 - Formula 850
Post by: als15 on December 22, 2009, 06:54:09 AM
No, we don't have a Tagliani here.
We do have a Fagioli, but it isn't #11.
Title: Re: als_026 - Formula 850
Post by: pnegyesi on December 22, 2009, 07:05:44 AM
Maybe is it No1?
Title: Re: als_026 - Formula 850
Post by: als15 on December 22, 2009, 07:11:56 AM
Maybe is it No1?
:applause:
Title: Re: als_026 - Formula 850
Post by: 75america on January 02, 2010, 12:10:05 PM
N°10: Olga
Title: Re: als_026 - Formula 850
Post by: als15 on January 02, 2010, 05:21:30 PM
N°10: Olga
Yes, it is!
Title: Re: als_026 - Formula 850
Post by: als15 on January 02, 2010, 05:23:56 PM
#01 - Fagioli - pnegyesi
#02
- Dagrada - pnegyesi
#03
#04
#05
#06
- De Sanctis - pnegyesi
#07
#08
#09
#10
- Ol-Ga - 75america
#11
#12
Title: Re: als_026 - Formula 850
Post by: als15 on January 02, 2010, 05:24:31 PM
And now it's time for Professionals too...  ;D
Title: Re: als_026 - Formula 850
Post by: faksta on January 06, 2010, 03:14:25 PM
#11 is a Tecno
Title: Re: als_026 - Formula 850
Post by: als15 on January 06, 2010, 03:37:01 PM
#11 is a Tecno
:thumbsup:
Title: Re: als_026 - Formula 850
Post by: als15 on January 06, 2010, 03:38:17 PM
#01 - Fagioli - pnegyesi
#02
- Dagrada - pnegyesi
#03
#04
#05
#06
- De Sanctis - pnegyesi
#07
#08
#09
#10
- Ol-Ga - 75america
#11
- Tecno - faksta
#12
Title: Re: als_026 - Formula 850
Post by: pino on January 20, 2010, 07:58:24 AM
#3 biraghi
Title: Re: als_026 - Formula 850
Post by: als15 on January 20, 2010, 08:24:48 AM
Correct!

Another one is gone...
Title: Re: als_026 - Formula 850
Post by: als15 on January 20, 2010, 08:26:30 AM
#01 - Fagioli - pnegyesi
#02
- Dagrada - pnegyesi
#03
- Biraghi - pino
#04
#05
#06
- De Sanctis - pnegyesi
#07
#08
#09
#10
- Ol-Ga - 75america
#11
- Tecno - faksta
#12
Title: Re: als_026 - Formula 850
Post by: pnegyesi on January 20, 2010, 08:45:11 AM
No4: Bellasi?
No5: Zambarbieri?
No12: CRM?
Title: Re: als_026 - Formula 850
Post by: als15 on January 20, 2010, 01:33:39 PM
Sorry: none of them is correct.

We don't have here neither a Bellasi nor a CRM.

We do have a car made by Zambarbieri (it isn't #5) but this is the name of the "chairman", not actually the brand.
Title: Re: als_026 - Formula 850
Post by: pino on January 22, 2010, 02:57:01 PM
#9 lucky ??
Title: Re: als_026 - Formula 850
Post by: als15 on January 22, 2010, 03:05:14 PM
 :nod: Second correct answer for you!
Title: Re: als_026 - Formula 850
Post by: als15 on January 22, 2010, 03:06:34 PM
#01 - Fagioli - pnegyesi
#02
- Dagrada - pnegyesi
#03
- Biraghi - pino
#04
#05
#06
- De Sanctis - pnegyesi
#07
#08
#09
- Lucky - pino
#10
- Ol-Ga - 75america
#11
- Tecno - faksta
#12
Title: Re: als_026 - Formula 850
Post by: faksta on January 23, 2010, 04:17:01 PM
#4 has a very familiar badge, but I can't remember where could I see it.
Title: Re: als_026 - Formula 850
Post by: faksta on January 23, 2010, 04:23:40 PM
#7 is BWA, isn't it?
Title: Re: als_026 - Formula 850
Post by: faksta on January 23, 2010, 04:24:56 PM
We don't have here neither a Bellasi nor a CRM.

Isn't that CRM in the background on picture #8?  :D

Also, could #5 be Ciceri?
Title: Re: als_026 - Formula 850
Post by: als15 on January 24, 2010, 05:09:18 AM
#7 is BWA, isn't it?

Yes, it is!  :thumbsup:


Also, could #5 be Ciceri?

Yes, this is actually the first F.850 made by Ciceri brothers, but I need the name of thier brand. Locked for you until next reply.
Title: Re: als_026 - Formula 850
Post by: als15 on January 24, 2010, 05:10:44 AM
#01 - Fagioli - pnegyesi
#02
- Dagrada - pnegyesi
#03
- Biraghi - pino
#04
#05
#06
- De Sanctis - pnegyesi
#07
- BWA - faksta
#08
#09
- Lucky - pino
#10
- Ol-Ga - 75america
#11
- Tecno - faksta
#12
Title: Re: als_026 - Formula 850
Post by: pnegyesi on January 24, 2010, 05:37:32 AM
No12: Nigiopa?
Title: Re: als_026 - Formula 850
Post by: als15 on January 24, 2010, 05:49:00 AM
No, sorry. More famous...

CRM - Bellasi - Nigiopa - Tagliani
Title: Re: als_026 - Formula 850
Post by: faksta on January 24, 2010, 06:04:58 AM
Yes, this is actually the first F.850 made by Ciceri brothers, but I need the name of thier brand. Locked for you until next reply.

Was it called GMS then?
Title: Re: als_026 - Formula 850
Post by: als15 on January 24, 2010, 06:08:13 AM
Yes: GMS, which are the first letters of their names: Gianni, Mario and Sergio Ciceri.


Title: Re: als_026 - Formula 850
Post by: als15 on January 24, 2010, 06:09:19 AM
#01 - Fagioli - pnegyesi
#02
- Dagrada - pnegyesi
#03
- Biraghi - pino
#04
#05
- GMS - faksta
#06
- De Sanctis - pnegyesi
#07
- BWA - faksta
#08
#09
- Lucky - pino
#10
- Ol-Ga - 75america
#11
- Tecno - faksta
#12
Title: Re: als_026 - Formula 850
Post by: faksta on January 24, 2010, 06:17:56 AM
Following your reply about Zambarbieri's car, is his formula (MZ?) pictured as #12?
Title: Re: als_026 - Formula 850
Post by: als15 on January 24, 2010, 06:21:40 AM
No, not #12.
But MZ is actually the brand name of Mario Zambarbieri's cars.
Title: Re: als_026 - Formula 850
Post by: pnegyesi on January 24, 2010, 06:29:22 AM
Maybe No8 is the MZ
Title: Re: als_026 - Formula 850
Post by: als15 on January 24, 2010, 06:40:37 AM
Yes, it is!

Only two still to name!
Title: Re: als_026 - Formula 850
Post by: als15 on January 24, 2010, 06:42:05 AM
#01 - Fagioli - pnegyesi
#02
- Dagrada - pnegyesi
#03
- Biraghi - pino
#04
#05
- GMS - faksta
#06
- De Sanctis - pnegyesi
#07
- BWA - faksta
#08
- MZ - pnegyesi
#09
- Lucky - pino
#10
- Ol-Ga - 75america
#11
- Tecno - faksta
#12
Title: Re: als_026 - Formula 850
Post by: pnegyesi on January 24, 2010, 07:02:15 AM
No12: Bonetti?
No4: Selene?
Title: Re: als_026 - Formula 850
Post by: als15 on January 24, 2010, 07:11:44 AM
No, but something in your guess is somehow correct.
Consider that, even if the period magazines made a lot of confusion about that, Selene is actually the name of a model, not a brand. And we here have one...

Bellasi - Bonetti - CRM - Nigiopa - Tagliani
Title: Re: als_026 - Formula 850
Post by: pnegyesi on January 24, 2010, 07:47:27 AM
So then, is No12 a Tanesini?
Title: Re: als_026 - Formula 850
Post by: als15 on January 24, 2010, 07:52:44 AM
Yes! Indeed a Tanesini Selene.

So, let's find the last one!!!
Title: Re: als_026 - Formula 850
Post by: als15 on January 24, 2010, 07:53:53 AM
#01 - Fagioli - pnegyesi
#02
- Dagrada - pnegyesi
#03
- Biraghi - pino
#04
#05
- GMS - faksta
#06
- De Sanctis - pnegyesi
#07
- BWA - faksta
#08
- MZ - pnegyesi
#09
- Lucky - pino
#1
0 - Ol-Ga - 75america
#11
- Tecno - faksta
#12
- Tanesini - pnegyesi
Title: Re: als_026 - Formula 850
Post by: faksta on January 24, 2010, 10:55:23 AM
I doubt it, to be honest, but could #4 be a Renzini?
Title: Re: als_026 - Formula 850
Post by: als15 on January 24, 2010, 11:31:45 AM
 :shakehead:

Bellasi - Bonetti - CRM - Nigiopa - Renzini - Tagliani
Title: Re: als_026 - Formula 850
Post by: pino on January 24, 2010, 01:38:27 PM
#4 spi-car ????
Title: Re: als_026 - Formula 850
Post by: als15 on January 24, 2010, 03:10:45 PM
 :shakehead:

Bellasi - Bonetti - CRM - Nigiopa - Renzini - Spi-Car - Tagliani

At this point, even two guesses per reply are allowed...
Title: Re: als_026 - Formula 850
Post by: pino on January 24, 2010, 03:34:07 PM
tony kart ??
repetto??
Title: Re: als_026 - Formula 850
Post by: als15 on January 24, 2010, 03:55:11 PM
 :shakehead:

Bellasi - Bonetti - CRM - Nigiopa - Renzini - Repetto - Spi-Car - Tagliani - Toni Kart
Title: Re: als_026 - Formula 850
Post by: faksta on January 24, 2010, 03:59:35 PM
Autotecnica?
Lavazza?

It becomes a pure guessing now... Can't find any pictures of the cars of most of the companies behind F850, even of any other categories.
Title: Re: als_026 - Formula 850
Post by: als15 on January 24, 2010, 04:13:03 PM
 :shakehead:

Autotecnica - Bellasi - Bonetti - CRM - Lavazza - Nigiopa - Renzini - Repetto - Spi-Car - Tagliani - Toni Kart

I know it's hard.. so a little clue. The brand is just the surname of the guy that built the car. It narrows the possibilities...
Title: Re: als_026 - Formula 850
Post by: faksta on January 24, 2010, 05:09:09 PM
Then my next two guesses will be Giuliani and Paparusso.
Title: Re: als_026 - Formula 850
Post by: als15 on January 25, 2010, 02:32:13 AM
And Giuliani is the correct name!

 :applause: :applause: :applause:
Title: Re: als_026 - Formula 850
Post by: als15 on January 25, 2010, 02:34:33 AM
#01 - Fagioli - pnegyesi
#02
- Dagrada - pnegyesi
#03
- Biraghi - pino
#04
- Giuliani - faksta
#05
- GMS - faksta
#06
- De Sanctis - pnegyesi
#07
- BWA - faksta
#08
- MZ - pnegyesi
#09
- Lucky - pino
#10
- Ol-Ga - 75america
#11
- Tecno - faksta
#12
- Tanesini - pnegyesi

Final result:
pnegyesi - 5 points
faksta - 4 points
pino - 2 points
75america - 1 point
Title: Re: Solved - als_026 - Formula 850
Post by: faksta on January 25, 2010, 05:47:07 AM
A very enjoyable quizz it was  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Solved - als_026 - Formula 850
Post by: als15 on January 25, 2010, 07:24:04 AM
And the same was for me when starting to compile the Formula 850 manufacturers list for my book: a new world all to be discovered...
Title: Re: Solved - als_026 - Formula 850
Post by: pino on January 25, 2010, 07:46:03 AM
Quiz really cute! A question, but in Italy this book will be 'sold?
I'm Italian and if anything I interese the publisher, the author and the official title.
Title: Re: Solved - als_026 - Formula 850
Post by: pino on January 25, 2010, 07:47:05 AM
Quiz really cute! A question, but in Italy this book will be 'sold?
I'm Italian and if anything I interese the publisher, the author and the official title.
Title: Re: Solved - als_026 - Formula 850
Post by: als15 on January 25, 2010, 08:00:46 AM
Of course. And I'm Italian too and hence the book will be in Italian language.
I'm going to give the files to the printer just in the next few days, so I think it will be available about in mid February.
Full references are:

Fiat 850 fuoriserie
written by Alessandro Sannia
published by the Società Editrice Il Cammello
Title: Re: Solved - als_026 - Formula 850
Post by: pino on January 25, 2010, 02:08:19 PM
grazie mille nn vedo l'ora di comprarlo ciao
Title: Re: Solved - als_026 - Formula 850
Post by: PCR on August 30, 2013, 10:03:45 PM
I recently stumbled upon als15's  list of Formula 850 manufacturers.  My interest in them is a bit self serving.  I have an old Italian formula car and do not know what it is.  For awhile it appeared to me that it was that old failed Abarth SE-08 F-3 car, but unfortunately it is not.  My best guess is that I have an early DeSanctis Formula 850, meaning about 196.  They made them until 1968.  I really want to find out what I have before I decide the best way to rebuild it.  The car is in pieces, some of which I am still collecting.  I have a bunch of pictures of the engine, trans, and body.  I will gladly share them with anyone, just get me an email address.  The engine seems to be a stock FIAT 850, which is driving a FIAT 500 transmission.  The starter location seems very modified as it now sits on top of the bell housing.  I live in New Jersey in the USA, and we do not see many little Italian formula cars here and I would like to converse with anyone that has an interest or can help me.   Thanks,  Paul
Title: Re: Solved - als_026 - Formula 850
Post by: als15 on September 02, 2013, 02:58:29 AM
Hello PCR, and welcome on Autopuzzles!

If you are interested in my book, you can buy it here: http://www.ilcammello.it/Libri/fuoriserie/FS12/fs12_e.htm (http://www.ilcammello.it/Libri/fuoriserie/FS12/fs12_e.htm)

If you need help in identifying your car, you can either send me the pictures by e-mail or post them here, where a lot of enthusiasts will try to help you.

Title: Re: Solved - als_026 - Formula 850
Post by: PCR on September 04, 2013, 12:00:23 AM
Hi, this is PCR and I am interested in your book, mostly for what it has on Formula 850, so I will visit the link you offered.  I have a bunch of pictures of the engine, transmission, and chasis, that I am happy to share, but I need an email address to forward them to.  I am sure there is a way to do this directly to autopuzzles as well, but I do not know how to do this yet.  Please direct me.  Thanks  Paul

Title: Re: Solved - als_026 - Formula 850
Post by: als15 on September 07, 2013, 05:53:48 AM
You can add them as attachment at your reply message here on Autopuzzle (just use the section + Attachments and other options) below the text box when you reply.
Or you can send to my personal e-mail address, that you already have, or to the publisher one info@ilcammello.it, that's me again.