What is this for a point please?
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Italian?
No!
Formula Junior ?
Unless she is a reeeeeally tiny woman, it looks too big to be a FJr. It also looks like it was built out of a junkyard of production parts.
Yes, it is a Formula Junior, so she must be very small!
...can't be just a kid?
Early Pygmee ?
No, not a Pygmee.
Pros?
Renault engine? Was it used in 1966?
Oops..didn't notice it is an FJ car. So, 1963?
It is an FJ, and you are very close on the year, but I am not 100% certain about it using a Renault engine, although this is a strong possibility.
So this is a 1962 French formula junior car? Were any other cars made by this builder?
Yes, it's a French FJ from 1962, and yes, other cars were made by this builder.
Probably an HB-Renault by Jacques and Guy Hampe? I have never seen a photo of it, so worth a try :)
I almost wish it was an HB-Renault because I've never seen a photo of this car either, but sadly it's not. :(
Molteni?
No, not that.
Rispal?
No.
I have quite a few French Formula Juniors on my database.
Without wishing to go through them all one by one (I don't have images for them all), I'll try to narrow it down to the ones that I have seen.
Perhaps this is a S.I.R.M.A.C.
No, not that one.
I have seen a plenty of French FJ cars, but none of them come from 1962 - this is what I'm stuck with here :)
The only 1962 French FJ I know of is the Collucci built by Vincent Collucci.
It had a Fiat engine.
Perhaps this is it?
No, not that.
Serval?
No.
SGN?
Sorry, not that one either!
Okay - this is my final guess until I do some more research - BSP?
Enjoy your research, as it's not a BSP. Sorry!
Could it be an FB? I have a number o FJ cars I know absolutely nothing about...
I don't know the FB myself, but I do know that this is not one of those!
Were the other cars of this manufacturer also formulae?
No, to my knowledge this the first and only one.
Sportscars (I mean competition ones)?
I would say sporting cars that were used for both the road and competition.
Simca-Gordini?
Would Rene Bonnet be too simple (and they've also had different formula cars - at least one F3 model)?
No, neither of the above :-\
Marcadier ?
No.
By "Sporting cars", do you mean off-road vehicles ?
No, not off-roaders, but sporting in the way that , for example, a Morgan could be called 'sporting' in that it could be a road car or a track car. I hope this helps.
Nothing that I could suppose matches the criteria, but let's try SERA maybe, even though I couldn't find a single mentioning of any single seaters by them.
No, not SERA.
Mismaque?
No.
I can't believe this one is still around!
I have a database of over 350 different Formula Junior makes from all countries and I can't imagine what the answer can be......... (watching future guesses with interest!)
Yes, the first anniversary of this puzzle is now only a few days away! I must confess that I did not know of this car's existance until I stiumpled across this photo somewhere in deepest France late last year, and I not been able to find out much more information about it since either! Hopefully the correct answer is not too far away now.
Looks like I don't have this name in my DB as well judging by all the hints...
Was this make well known? Although I have tried all the possible names that could fit in my opinion...
Jidé ?
Not Jide, but the marque is reasonably known.
CG? They've started to build complete cars later, but were active before as well.
No, not CG.
Autobleu?
Or, less possibly, Ferry?
OK, let's solve this.
You wrote that this car is from 62, and the same maker made also road cars and was quite known.
Were these other cars also from 62, like Arista?
Did the manufacturer have any connection with Jacques Durand ? (the Jacques Durand from Jidé ? )
No connection with Jacques Durand, and the other cars made by this company were pre-1962.
So, none of the above?
Germain Lambert ?
Et voila! Tres bien Yves. At last, we have a winner, as this is the one and only FJ built by Lambert, better known for his immediate pre-and post-war sports/racing cars. The car was built in 1962 using many Renault Dauphine parts but wasn't used extensively in competition. Well done ;D.
Oh, finally! Any certain information?
Sadly not much more to add I'm afraid.
I discoved this car/photo at a classic car show in France last year. The French Lambert club had some images of various Lambert vehicles on a wall, including this one. I spoke to a Club member about the car, but he couldn't add much more information. He believed the car no longer existed, but its racing appearances were very limited in the early to mid-1960s. It was Germain Lambert's last vehicle project.
Very interesting, I had no idea there were any Lambert cars built this late. Great to see this one solved finally!
Agreed.
I now have 352 different Formula Junior makes on my database.
Wonder if there are any more out there.
Now about Djetset #182...................I can't wait to see that one solved also.
Quote from: woodinsight on October 22, 2010, 12:37:34 PM
Now about Djetset #182...................I can't wait to see that one solved also.
I'm disappointed you have sorted that one out already woodinsight!
It's cost me many a late night already but have given up now!