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Title: Solved - MJW #150 - Variations on an Underlying Theme - Peugeot 203 specials
Post by: woodinsight on December 08, 2010, 01:14:19 PM
I thought I'd try a small group puzzle until my Sports Racing Part 1 is completed.
"Variations on an Underlying Theme" links these eight cars.

Question one - what is the common factor linking the cars?
Easy, I think, and a point is on offer for the correct answer.

Question two - who was responsible for these modified cars?
All I'm asking for is a name and a point will be awarded for each correct answer.

I haven't disguised any registration numbers, competition numbers/plaques or altered the photos in any way.

I know this small group puzzle will appeal more to those with knowledge of cars of a Gallic nature but I'm certain it will be of interest to others.

Once the link (question one) is established I'll place it in the Experts section for further guesses.

So be quick Rookies this is a chance to score an initial point before it moves on......
Title: Re: MJW #150 - Variations on an Underlying Theme
Post by: Paul Jaray on December 08, 2010, 04:01:44 PM
 :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

Nice puzzle!
Title: Re: MJW #150 - Variations on an Underlying Theme
Post by: barrett on December 08, 2010, 08:20:03 PM
Very cool, would you believe I was thinking about putting together something exactly like this myself!
hurry up rookies!
Title: Re: MJW #150 - Variations on an Underlying Theme
Post by: woodinsight on December 09, 2010, 12:32:55 PM
Over 50 views and no response from the Rookies regarding what links these cars together.
Time to move up to the next level as I think this puzzle will take some time to solve.
Title: Re: MJW #150 - Variations on an Underlying Theme
Post by: barrett on December 09, 2010, 12:43:45 PM
Okay - the underlying theme - they are all based on the Peugeot 203
the cars are by:
1 - Paul Guiraud, from a rebuilt Barbier 203
2 -  Darl'mat

4 - Thomas
5 - Dubrieul
6 - Barbier
7- Constantin
8 - Dubois
Title: Re: MJW #150 - Variations on an Underlying Theme
Post by: woodinsight on December 09, 2010, 12:53:03 PM
Well, well, well - I didn't know you were a Peugeot 203 expert barrett!

Congratulations  :applause:

Okay, you already have eight points in one fell swoop!
By the way #5 is Dubreuil (a small typo)

#3 - is still awaiting a solution

I'll post a list of answers and then award you the points (Christmas has come early!)
Title: Re: MJW #150 - Variations on an Underlying Theme
Post by: woodinsight on December 09, 2010, 01:00:24 PM
Answers:

The underlying theme was that all these cars are based on the Peugeot 203 (solved by barrett)

#1 - Guiraud (solved by barrett)
#2 - Darl'Mat (solved by barrett)
#3 - Martin (solved by Allemano)
#4 - Thomas (solved by barrett)
#5 - Dubreuil (solved by barrett)
#6 - Barbier (solved by barrett)
#7 - Constantin (solved by barrett)
#8 - Dubois (solved by barrett)
Title: Re: MJW #150 - Variations on an Underlying Theme
Post by: barrett on December 09, 2010, 02:15:05 PM
Thank you  ;D

I'm no expert, I just happened to have collected most of these cars as I found them interesting, but hadn't used any in a puzzle yet.
Other than the Darl'Mat, Barbier and Constantin cars I don't really know much more than the names and in some case the years of the others
Title: Re: MJW #150 - Variations on an Underlying Theme
Post by: woodinsight on December 09, 2010, 02:42:51 PM
I'm sure you can carry on and guess the missing No.3 - the product of a well-known racing driver (pictured) of the era.
Title: Re: MJW #150 - Variations on an Underlying Theme
Post by: faksta on December 09, 2010, 02:47:06 PM
And I was hoping to take part in it also  :P
Well done, barrett!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MJW #150 - Variations on an Underlying Theme
Post by: Paul Jaray on December 09, 2010, 02:47:57 PM
 :'( :'( :popcorn: :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: MJW #150 - Variations on an Underlying Theme
Post by: Allemano on December 09, 2010, 02:50:50 PM
I knew I wouldn't get any chance...
(Un)fortunately you can find them almost all at one place...
Title: Re: MJW #150 - Variations on an Underlying Theme
Post by: woodinsight on December 09, 2010, 03:00:45 PM
Don't despair guys - I'll work on a few more small group puzzles like this that will be more difficult to solve (I hope).
Anyway well done barrett and I now just have to find a theme where the solution will be more obscure.

Don't forget No.3 though - this puzzle won't be put to rest until this one is solved
Title: Re: MJW #150 - Variations on an Underlying Theme
Post by: woodinsight on December 10, 2010, 03:05:53 AM
I'm putting this one up to Pro level now even though only one is left to solve
Title: Re: MJW #150 - Variations on an Underlying Theme
Post by: Allemano on December 10, 2010, 03:58:20 AM
Okay thanks! The missing #3 is a Peugeot 203 conversion by Eugène Martin from 1952.
Title: Re: MJW #150 - Variations on an Underlying Theme
Post by: woodinsight on December 10, 2010, 04:12:58 AM
That's it Allemano, well done - at least you salvaged the last point.
Title: Re: Solved - MJW #150 - Variations on an Underlying Theme - Peugeot 203 specials
Post by: fnqvmuch on December 10, 2010, 10:57:33 AM
i don't have the french to contradict anyone on this but would love to query the origins of M. Guiraud's 140 BT 30 - a favourite of mine - as it having been a Barbier is news to me.
i can happily pm a few other photos showing some other angles and incarnations to those inclined to discuss and give the benefit of their knowledge ...
steven
Title: Re: Solved - MJW #150 - Variations on an Underlying Theme - Peugeot 203 specials
Post by: woodinsight on December 11, 2010, 11:01:34 PM
I have no information on the car being based on a Barbier Peugeot 203.
The car was built by Paul Guiraud at Ales in 1955.
I'll conduct a search for further information and post any findings here - the same goes for the other cars