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Title: Solved - NTM #19 "Art and Cars": Peter Arno & the Albatross
Post by: ftg3plus4 on May 30, 2009, 09:45:04 AM
One artist, and one car...

Tell me who the artist is and what car he's associated with for a point!
Title: Re: NTM #19: An "Art and Cars" puzzle
Post by: ftg3plus4 on June 04, 2009, 08:36:22 AM
OK, no activity on this one... time to move to Experts.
Title: Re: NTM #19: An "Art and Cars" puzzle
Post by: ftg3plus4 on June 14, 2009, 05:33:28 PM
Pros?
Title: Re: NTM #19: An "Art and Cars" puzzle
Post by: hugo90 on June 15, 2009, 01:09:53 PM
Is that Dana Andrews?

The movie I most remember of his was "Hot Rods to Hell" in which he drove a '61 Plymouth Belvedere four door while being harassed by degenerate hot rodders!  Is that the car?
Title: Re: NTM #19: An "Art and Cars" puzzle
Post by: ftg3plus4 on June 15, 2009, 01:14:19 PM
Glad to see some activity on this, but... nope.

A couple of hints:

(1) The nature of his art is such that you wouldn't know his face from it.
(2) The association between artist & car is very close -- you wouldn't associate another man with the car, or another car with the man.
Title: Re: NTM #19: An "Art and Cars" puzzle
Post by: Ray B. on June 15, 2009, 03:04:09 PM
A writer?
Title: Re: NTM #19: An "Art and Cars" puzzle
Post by: ftg3plus4 on June 15, 2009, 03:44:12 PM
Nope.
Title: Re: NTM #19: An "Art and Cars" puzzle
Post by: Ray B. on June 15, 2009, 04:20:11 PM
Musician?
Title: Re: NTM #19: An "Art and Cars" puzzle
Post by: ftg3plus4 on June 15, 2009, 08:15:35 PM
Also nope.
Title: Re: NTM #19: An "Art and Cars" puzzle
Post by: Ray B. on June 25, 2009, 05:50:23 AM
In the movies, somewhere behind the camera?
Title: Re: NTM #19: An "Art and Cars" puzzle
Post by: ftg3plus4 on June 25, 2009, 08:07:52 AM
Nope. Think closer to the more specific sense of "artist."
Title: Re: NTM #19: An "Art and Cars" puzzle
Post by: Ray B. on June 25, 2009, 08:17:47 AM
I don't think there is a specific sense in the meaning it would define a specialty. In my country, at least, the most commonly (and wrongly) understanding is "pop singer". Nevertheless, I think that you may mean "painter".
So, if a painter, let's start "around the world in 80 days": British?
Title: Re: NTM #19: An "Art and Cars" puzzle
Post by: ftg3plus4 on June 25, 2009, 08:19:26 AM
Yes, you're right about the direction I was trying to go in with that. It's not "painter" but that's closer than anything else guessed so far. And not British.
Title: Re: NTM #19: An "Art and Cars" puzzle
Post by: Ray B. on June 25, 2009, 08:23:07 AM
Sculptor?
Title: Re: NTM #19: An "Art and Cars" puzzle
Post by: DynaMike on June 25, 2009, 08:29:47 AM
Or car designer  ;) ?
Title: Re: NTM #19: An "Art and Cars" puzzle
Post by: ftg3plus4 on June 25, 2009, 08:34:35 AM
Not sculptor.

Not known as a car designer (except in the case of the one car that this puzzle is concerned with).
Title: Re: NTM #19: An "Art and Cars" puzzle
Post by: Ray B. on June 25, 2009, 03:46:38 PM
Architect?
Title: Re: NTM #19: An "Art and Cars" puzzle
Post by: ftg3plus4 on June 25, 2009, 03:54:12 PM
Nope. Think a little less "seriously."
Title: Re: NTM #19: An "Art and Cars" puzzle
Post by: Otto Puzzell on June 25, 2009, 05:16:27 PM
Alexander Calder?
Title: Re: NTM #19: An "Art and Cars" puzzle
Post by: Ray B. on June 25, 2009, 05:37:44 PM
Quote from: ftg3plus4 on June 25, 2009, 03:54:12 PM
Nope. Think a little less "seriously."
I hope you don't mean something like magician or illusionist. That would be a little far fetched.
Title: Re: NTM #19: An "Art and Cars" puzzle
Post by: ftg3plus4 on June 25, 2009, 06:22:26 PM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on June 25, 2009, 05:16:27 PM
Alexander Calder?
Nope.

Quote from: Ray B. on June 25, 2009, 05:37:44 PM
I hope you don't mean something like magician or illusionist. That would be a little far fetched.
No, I don't. I'm sticking with basic, 2-D visual art.
Title: Re: NTM #19: An "Art and Cars" puzzle
Post by: Ray B. on June 25, 2009, 06:23:48 PM
Thanks. I'll keep looking.
Title: Re: NTM #19: An "Art and Cars" puzzle
Post by: Ray B. on June 26, 2009, 03:38:39 AM
He might look like a young Theodor Seuss Geisel, Dr. Seuss, without a beard. In which case the car would be this fire truck.
Title: Re: NTM #19: An "Art and Cars" puzzle
Post by: ftg3plus4 on June 26, 2009, 07:41:38 AM
Very interesting guess, but not correct.

Another hint: In the spirit of most of my "Name That Make" puzzles, this involves a somewhat-obscure make of car, rather than, say, a weird custom one-off or a specimen of some well-known brand (i.e., this isn't "so-and-so and his customized psychedelic 1964 Austin Mini").
Title: Re: NTM #19: An "Art and Cars" puzzle
Post by: streamliner on June 26, 2009, 08:44:33 AM
Is it either Ed or Jim Gaylord?
Title: Re: NTM #19: An "Art and Cars" puzzle
Post by: ftg3plus4 on June 26, 2009, 08:52:22 AM
Nope.

He's much more well-known for his art than the car (which I'm assuming is not the case with the Gaylords).
Title: Re: NTM #19: An "Art and Cars" puzzle
Post by: Ray B. on June 26, 2009, 08:59:02 AM
So: an illustrator?
Title: Re: NTM #19: An "Art and Cars" puzzle
Post by: Ray B. on June 26, 2009, 08:59:25 AM
Or a comic strip artist?
Title: Re: NTM #19: An "Art and Cars" puzzle
Post by: ftg3plus4 on June 26, 2009, 09:25:08 AM
Quote from: Ray B. on June 26, 2009, 08:59:25 AM
Or a comic strip artist?
Not quite, but that's the closest anyone has gotten so far.
Title: Re: NTM #19: An "Art and Cars" puzzle
Post by: Ray B. on June 26, 2009, 09:50:25 AM
All right, allow me to sum up your answers:
2-D visual artist, not a painter, the closest being comic strip (or comic book, meant I) artist, and, not an illustrator.

What's left? A cartoonist, like Chas Addams of my own A&C#19?
I am in that line of work myself and and can't figure what else.

EDIT: Don't bother replying. I found him. I just need to find the car now.
Title: Re: NTM #19: An "Art and Cars" puzzle
Post by: ftg3plus4 on June 26, 2009, 09:59:08 AM
Quote from: Ray B. on June 26, 2009, 09:50:25 AM
All right, allow me to sum up your answers:
2-D visual artist, not a painter, the closest being comic strip (or comic book, meant I) artist, and, not an illustrator.

What's left? A cartoonist, like Chas Addams of my own A&C#19?
I am in that line of work myself and and can't figure what else.
Yes, a cartoonist like Mr. Addams. In fact, if I'd known that's who the subject of your A&C was, I might have waited longer before posting this puzzle!

EDIT: Too late, I already replied!
Title: Re: NTM #19: An "Art and Cars" puzzle
Post by: Ray B. on June 26, 2009, 10:12:03 AM
It's the New Yorker cartoonist, Peter Arno, and the car is the Albatross, a car he designed and had built.  It was last seen parked at a gas station in Chicago in the mid-1980s.
From another source: The Albatross was an American sports car venture that was planned in 1939, but that never got off the ground. The plan had been to market an ultra-streamlined four-seat tourer body, built on a standard Mercury chassis, based on a European custom-made car owned by cartoonist Peter Arno. The proposed car was advertised in at least one periodical, but it is doubtful whether or not any cars were actually produced.
I still have to find a picture if possible.

Don't worry about any connection with the Addams puzzle, there is none. I only recognized Arno today on a web page I've just discovered.
Title: Re: NTM #19: An "Art and Cars" puzzle
Post by: ftg3plus4 on June 26, 2009, 10:19:03 AM
That's it! Well done!

BTW, if anyone can provide a picture of the Albatross, I'd really like to see it.
Title: Re: Solved - NTM #19 "Art and Cars": Peter Arno & the Albatross
Post by: Ray B. on June 26, 2009, 10:24:59 AM
I only could find that he had it built by J.S. Inskip (of Brewster & Co) and that it looked a bit like the 540K Mercedes by Erdmann and Rossi.
Title: Re: Solved - NTM #19 "Art and Cars": Peter Arno & the Albatross
Post by: tokiookie on June 21, 2010, 12:08:09 AM
See the top left of page 23 of "The Standard Catalog of American Cars, 1805-1942" for a picture of the Albatross - the only one it seems. The chassis is a streached 1939 Mercury.
Title: Re: Solved - NTM #19 "Art and Cars": Peter Arno & the Albatross
Post by: Ray B. on June 21, 2010, 03:26:16 AM
Please, show us!
Title: Re: Solved - NTM #19 "Art and Cars": Peter Arno & the Albatross
Post by: Ray B. on July 19, 2010, 05:26:38 AM
Bingo!
It just popped up as a SIA flashback in the Hemmings blog.

<<< Link Removed >>>

That would make it suitable for the 'Rare Car of The Week'
Hail SIA!
Title: Re: Solved - NTM #19 "Art and Cars": Peter Arno & the Albatross
Post by: Allemano on July 19, 2010, 09:51:38 AM
have I missed something or do we link from now on? :scratch:
Title: Re: Solved - NTM #19 "Art and Cars": Peter Arno & the Albatross
Post by: Ray B. on July 19, 2010, 10:53:01 AM
What you missed I don't know.
But what I missed is this: who takes the decision t move topics to 'Rare car of the week', when, and who does it.

When I know I can add the files of the SIA article.
Title: Re: Solved - NTM #19 "Art and Cars": Peter Arno & the Albatross
Post by: ftg3plus4 on July 20, 2010, 02:04:47 PM
Putting the picture right here, although the article at the link shows other angles as well.

Is it just me, or does this look a lot more like a recent, vaguely '30s-inspired car than one actually made in the '30s?