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Title: Solved -PJ294- Colby Model 30 'Red Devil' 1911
Post by: Paul Jaray on January 31, 2010, 12:55:59 PM
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Title: Re: PJ - 294
Post by: Paul Jaray on January 31, 2010, 12:58:54 PM
It's not a 3-wheeler.
Title: Re: PJ - 294
Post by: faksta on January 31, 2010, 01:28:10 PM
That was kind of obvious  ;D
Title: Re: PJ - 294
Post by: Paul Jaray on January 31, 2010, 01:37:43 PM
I know, but I was trying to anticipate Mr Funny Guy's next reply!  ;D
Title: Re: PJ - 294
Post by: Otto Puzzell on February 01, 2010, 04:27:36 AM
3 3/4 wheeler, perhaps, but that's no 4-wheeler. 
Title: Re: PJ - 294
Post by: Paul Jaray on February 01, 2010, 06:32:54 AM
Do you prefer this?
Title: Re: PJ - 294
Post by: Otto Puzzell on February 01, 2010, 07:24:30 AM
I was just kiddin' :)
Title: Re: PJ - 294
Post by: Paul Jaray on February 01, 2010, 07:25:38 AM
I forgot the smile... ;)
Title: Re: PJ - 294
Post by: Paul Jaray on February 09, 2010, 05:04:42 PM
This is not that hard and it is just what it seems....
Title: Re: PJ - 294
Post by: neilshouse on February 12, 2010, 02:47:37 AM
Isotta Fraschini?
Title: Re: PJ - 294
Post by: Paul Jaray on February 12, 2010, 02:34:45 PM
Not Isotta Fraschini...
Title: Re: PJ - 294
Post by: Paul Jaray on February 17, 2010, 05:51:41 AM
Looking at the pic, one should be able to identify the nationality of the car (very easy), then...
Title: Re: PJ - 294
Post by: pnegyesi on February 17, 2010, 06:08:47 AM
Looks like American to me, maybe one from the Vanderbilt Cup races
Title: Re: PJ - 294
Post by: Paul Jaray on February 17, 2010, 02:45:04 PM
It is american.
Not a Vanderbilt Cup racing car...
Title: Re: PJ - 294
Post by: Paul Jaray on February 19, 2010, 11:40:46 AM
this car is connected with another , VERY famous race, even if it never raced it....
Title: Re: PJ - 294
Post by: pnegyesi on February 19, 2010, 03:11:07 PM
Was it built in Indianapolis?
Title: Re: PJ - 294
Post by: Paul Jaray on February 19, 2010, 03:29:00 PM
Not for indianapolis but its driver was a well known indy-driver.
Title: Re: PJ - 294
Post by: Otto Puzzell on February 19, 2010, 03:40:01 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 19, 2010, 11:40:46 AM
this car is connected with another , VERY famous race, even if it never raced it....

Gordon Bennett Cup?
Title: Re: PJ - 294
Post by: Paul Jaray on February 19, 2010, 03:50:27 PM
The race I was referring to was Indianapolis, but this race is connected to this car via a pilot, well known in the Indy scene.
Title: Re: PJ - 294
Post by: Paul Jaray on March 02, 2010, 06:52:29 PM
This car nevere raced Indy.
A famous indy-pilot raced this car...till...
Title: Re: PJ - 294
Post by: João on March 05, 2010, 02:26:34 PM
It´s a 1911 E-M-F 30 stock-chassis roadster built to compete in the Tiedman Cup race held in November, 1911 in Savannah, Ga., as a preliminary event for the Vanderbilt Cup competition? Jack Tower drove it to a third-place finish that day...
Title: Re: PJ - 294
Post by: Paul Jaray on March 06, 2010, 02:59:26 AM
with such a guess it's a pity I can't tell you are right...
This car is from 1911, but not a EMF and not for the Tiedman Cup.
Amazingly this car was raced by a famous pilot who drove it to a third-place in a competition, but it was not Jack Tower.
Probably the pilot may lead you to the solution...
Title: Re: PJ - 294
Post by: João on March 06, 2010, 06:31:58 PM
 :D No problem!

"Amazingly this car was raced by a famous pilot who drove it to a third-place in a competition, but it was not Jack Tower."

That´s great!!
Title: Re: PJ - 294
Post by: Paul Jaray on March 30, 2010, 08:17:43 AM
American car, famous pilot raced his very last race in it,  from 1911...is it that hard?
Title: Re: PJ - 294
Post by: Allemano on March 30, 2010, 08:47:33 AM
Ray Harroun at Fort Wayne?
Title: Re: PJ - 294
Post by: Paul Jaray on March 30, 2010, 11:20:23 AM
Not him, not that...
Title: Re: PJ - 294
Post by: Allemano on March 30, 2010, 11:49:00 AM
Fast Eddie? ;)

Lee Oldfield in a Knox Racer?
Title: Re: PJ - 294
Post by: Paul Jaray on March 30, 2010, 12:25:13 PM
Not him and not a Knox...
Title: Re: PJ - 294
Post by: Tackitt on March 30, 2010, 01:15:55 PM
Looks a lot like the Louis Chevrolet-designed "Marquette" Buick.
Title: Re: PJ - 294
Post by: Paul Jaray on March 30, 2010, 01:18:12 PM
Not that...
Title: Re: PJ - 294
Post by: faksta on March 31, 2010, 03:38:27 PM
Jack Fleming, Pope-Hartford?
Panama-Pacific Road Race at Portola circuit - February 22, 1911?
Title: Re: PJ - 294
Post by: Paul Jaray on March 31, 2010, 03:50:25 PM
All these indy pilots died in 1911 on a racing car?
Not him, not that...
Title: Re: PJ - 294
Post by: Tackitt on March 31, 2010, 07:38:02 PM
I didn't say that Chevrolet was the driver. He had major imput anyway in the construction of the Model 10 "Marquette" Buick.
It was Lewis Strang who started on the pole of the first Indy 500 in a Case automobile. He was killed on July 20, 1911 testing the Buick in Blue River, Wisconsin.
Hence my deduction which, apparently was wrong.
Title: Re: PJ - 294
Post by: Paul Jaray on March 31, 2010, 07:48:53 PM
Got it, but my reply was after faksta's one...
This brand is not very known and lasted few years with few models.
There is a website dedicated to these cars.
It's not an impossible one.  ;)
Title: Re: PJ - 294
Post by: pnegyesi on April 01, 2010, 01:16:06 AM
Colby Red Devil, cca 1913

Caption says:
Man at wheel of the Colby Motor Company 1912 model "Red Devil" racer. Location unknown (Colby Motor Co. based in Mason City, Iowa). ca. 1913

Mason City entrepreneur, William Colby, founded the Colby Motor Company in 1910. The first Colby, a five-passenger touring car, took to Mason City's streets on November 12, 1910. It performed to all expectations and was fast enough to earn a speeding ticket for its test driver.
Colby equipped his cars with premium materials and an engine designed to withstand Iowa's winters. Colby automobiles were put through endurance tests over the state's rutted, muddy dirt roads. The cars passed the tests with flying colors, including a 658-mile run from Minneapolis, Minnesota, to Helena, Montana.
Colby also participated in the newly developing dirt-track car races being held throughout the Midwest. Billy Pearce, a Colby driver on the racing circuit, broke many track records and won trophies for the company. He died in 1911 while racing the Colby Red Devil in Sioux City. The car was repaired but never raced again.
Title: Re: PJ - 294
Post by: faksta on April 01, 2010, 03:06:52 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on March 31, 2010, 03:50:25 PM
All these indy pilots died in 1911 on a racing car?
Not him, not that...

I got it that the driver did not necessarily die, but just spent his last race in 1911. :doh:
Title: Re: PJ - 294
Post by: Allemano on April 01, 2010, 03:57:18 AM
Never would have found it!  :o
Title: Re: PJ - 294
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 01, 2010, 06:51:05 AM
You found it, and you can read yourself, that source reports a data 1913, then another 1912 and another, 1911.
The correct one is, according to another book, 1911, since the Red Devil was developed on a Model 30, and, of course because Billy Pearce died in the Kane County Cup in 1911.
Well done!
Title: Re: Solved -PJ294- Colby Model 30 'Red Devil' 1911
Post by: Tackitt on April 01, 2010, 07:31:19 AM
Good job indeed. I would have never found that one.