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Title: Solved -PJ308- Studebaker Six, a custom from Belgium, 1962
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 01, 2010, 11:01:12 AM
Do you know this car?
One point for correct identification.
(I have few details about but I suspect it won't be that hard)
Title: Re: PJ - 308
Post by: guido66 on April 01, 2010, 04:51:40 PM
French?
Title: Re: PJ - 308
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 01, 2010, 04:54:15 PM
I have the donor car for this and it is not french.
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Post by: DeAutogids.nl on April 01, 2010, 04:55:03 PM
That rear looks a bit Daimler-like,so my question is it British?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on April 01, 2010, 04:56:13 PM
The donor car is not british...
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Post by: guido66 on April 01, 2010, 04:59:59 PM
But the conversion / coachbuilding was done in the UK?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on April 01, 2010, 05:11:11 PM
I don't know.
It was for sale, soon after it was built in an european country, that is not French or British, but I can't tell if the builder was from there or just the owner.
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Post by: DeAutogids.nl on April 01, 2010, 05:16:06 PM
The front has a bit of Volvo, so my question is: Sweden?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on April 01, 2010, 05:17:52 PM
The donor was not Swedish...
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Post by: guido66 on April 01, 2010, 05:18:51 PM
Italian donor?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on April 01, 2010, 05:21:57 PM
Not Italian...
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Post by: Paul Jaray on April 01, 2010, 05:37:37 PM
Not German...
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Post by: DeAutogids.nl on April 01, 2010, 05:42:51 PM
Difficult to say if it is not of one of these countries, so I am going to say Spanish.
Title: Re: PJ - 308
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 01, 2010, 06:17:50 PM
You are leaving out a big portion of the globe, but no, not Spanish...
Title: Re: PJ - 308
Post by: DeAutogids.nl on April 02, 2010, 03:46:27 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on April 01, 2010, 06:17:50 PM
You are leaving out a big portion of the globe, but no, not Spanish...
You said yourself it was a European country (05:11:11).

Switzerland?
Title: Re: PJ - 308
Post by: Allemano on April 02, 2010, 04:47:26 AM
The roof line looks a little like PF's design for the Lancia Flaminia. Is there any connection?
Title: Re: PJ - 308
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 02, 2010, 07:26:08 AM
Quote from: DeAutogids.nl on April 02, 2010, 03:46:27 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on April 01, 2010, 06:17:50 PM
You are leaving out a big portion of the globe, but no, not Spanish...
You said yourself it was a European country (05:11:11).
Switzerland?
My replies #2-4-8-10 were: donor car is not ....
My reply #6 was: It was for sale, soon after it was built in an european country, that is not French or British, but I can't tell if the builder was from there or just the owner   
In my reply #6 I was referring to the conversion\coachbuilder: the donor car is another matter (and not European) and quite known.

Not Lancia...
Title: Re: PJ - 308
Post by: Allemano on April 02, 2010, 07:29:34 AM
USA for the based car?
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Post by: DeAutogids.nl on April 02, 2010, 07:34:38 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on April 02, 2010, 07:26:08 AM
Quote from: DeAutogids.nl on April 02, 2010, 03:46:27 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on April 01, 2010, 06:17:50 PM
You are leaving out a big portion of the globe, but no, not Spanish...
You said yourself it was a European country (05:11:11).
Switzerland?
My replies #2-4-8-10 were: donor car is not ....
My reply #6 was: It was for sale, soon after it was built in an european country, that is not French or British, but I can't tell if the builder was from there or just the owner   
In my reply #6 I was referring to the conversion\coachbuilder: the donor car is another matter (and not European) and quite known.

Not Lancia...
Then I misunderstood. Sorry about that
Title: Re: PJ - 308
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 02, 2010, 07:57:17 AM
Nothing to be sorry about, sometimes I know I'm a bit cryptic...
This car was built around another car, the donor car, that was built not in Europe and comes from a well known brand.
The body was done later by someone I do not know: I only know that it was for sale in a country in Europe, none of the mentioned, but it doesn't necessarly mean that the coachbuilder was from there.
Title: Re: PJ - 308
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 02, 2010, 07:59:05 AM
Quote from: Allemano on April 02, 2010, 07:29:34 AM
USA for the based car?
Yes, the donor car was from USA.
Title: Re: PJ - 308
Post by: Allemano on April 02, 2010, 08:11:41 AM
reminds me a bit of the "Bill Frick" Cadillac conversions..
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Post by: Paul Jaray on April 02, 2010, 08:20:14 AM
Not a Cadillac, but I thought of him too...
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Post by: Allemano on April 02, 2010, 08:21:59 AM
Chrysler?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on April 02, 2010, 08:28:57 AM
Not Chrysler...
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Post by: Allemano on April 02, 2010, 08:30:40 AM
Ford?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on April 02, 2010, 08:35:30 AM
Not Ford...
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Post by: Allemano on April 02, 2010, 08:40:00 AM
Packard?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on April 02, 2010, 08:43:24 AM
Not Packard....
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Post by: Allemano on April 02, 2010, 08:47:36 AM
Big Three at all?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on April 02, 2010, 08:48:09 AM
Not from one of them....
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Post by: Allemano on April 02, 2010, 08:50:26 AM
Studebaker?
Title: Re: PJ - 308
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 02, 2010, 08:56:03 AM
Right!
This car started life as a Studebaker Six-cylinder in 1962.
I have no further details, except that it was for sale in 1968 in Belgium.

Is there anyone who recognize the builder?
The way the rear pillar joins the side of the car is quite particular...

I'll award you a point now and keep it here for a while.
Title: Re: PJ - 308
Post by: DeAutogids.nl on April 02, 2010, 08:58:46 AM
Vandenplas?
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Post by: Allemano on April 02, 2010, 09:01:09 AM
The body looks like taylored in Italy, but it could be made in a cleverly copied "Italian" style as well..
Bumper and wheels seems to be not the original ones.
Title: Re: PJ - 308
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 02, 2010, 09:01:43 AM
Now it gets harder.
I do not have the answer, so your guesses have to come with a valid proof...
I'm not saying the coachbuilder is from Belgium: the car was there for sale, so it is a possibility, but not a fact.
If someone recognize this Studebaker Special, he will come with a motivated answer and will get the point.
Title: Re: PJ - 308
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 02, 2010, 09:14:24 AM
Now I'm speculating, but Pininfarina adopted that treatment of the rear pillar on the side of the car with the belt line making a curve just like this car since 1955, with a Ferrari 345 America, then in 1956 with a Jaguar MK VII etc but after the Flaminia Florida of 1957, these features are combined with small rear fins, like in the Flaminia Coupe of 1958 and laters models, but I can't find all these elements in the same car at the same time.
In addition to that, I'm sure if someone has got a Pininifarina car to sell in an Italian magazine, the name of the coachbuilder will be mentioned and underlined.
Title: Re: PJ - 308
Post by: Paul Jaray on July 22, 2010, 04:44:40 PM
OK, nothing new...we can move it to the solved section.
Title: Re: PJ - 308
Post by: 75america on July 22, 2010, 04:58:24 PM
@ PJ: Can you change the subject title?
Title: Re: Solved -PJ308- Studebaker Six, a custom from Belgium, 1962
Post by: Paul Jaray on July 22, 2010, 05:06:51 PM
Fixed!