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Title: Solved: PN #100 -- Anna (Nusi) Somogyi and her cars, Alfa Romeo, Citroen and Rover
Post by: pnegyesi on July 05, 2010, 11:33:50 PM
For my 100th puzzle I chose something rather difficult. This one belongs to the Art&Cars series and is exceptional in many ways.

There are a lot of points offered (four to be precise):
- one if you can identify  this lady correctly
- one each for the cars she was associated with (I know three brands)

First you have to identify the lady and then you can make guesses on the cars she was associated with.

Let's see whether the cream of the crop can handle it!
Title: Re: PN #100
Post by: grobmotorix on July 07, 2010, 02:28:02 PM
Is she Norah, Lady Docker?

Then the connection would be Daimler, BSA and Hooper (if you´d accdept that as an own marque), but I´ve got to check the picture now...
Title: Re: PN #100
Post by: pnegyesi on July 07, 2010, 02:34:14 PM
No, not her, not even remotely connected
Title: Re: PN #100
Post by: grobmotorix on July 07, 2010, 03:33:27 PM
And it would have been way too easy for your 100th puzzle, of course... ;)
Title: Re: PN #100
Post by: ImpishGrin on July 14, 2010, 04:58:28 AM
Was the lady an actress?
Title: Re: PN #100
Post by: pnegyesi on July 14, 2010, 05:24:23 AM
Yes, she was an actress
Title: Re: PN #100
Post by: guido66 on July 14, 2010, 02:28:52 PM
Silent Movies or Talkies?
Title: Re: PN #100
Post by: pnegyesi on July 14, 2010, 02:59:38 PM
mostly in theaters and in talking movies
Title: Re: PN #100
Post by: Ray B. on July 15, 2010, 11:45:22 AM
Quote from: pnegyesi on July 14, 2010, 02:59:38 PM
mostly in theaters and in talking movies

Strangely, her costume (and the photo ) seem to come from the silent era...
Let's narrow it down: Hollywood?
Title: Re: PN #100
Post by: pnegyesi on July 15, 2010, 12:50:34 PM
No, far, far away from Hollywood
Title: Re: PN #100
Post by: guido66 on July 15, 2010, 03:31:12 PM
From the UK?
Title: Re: PN #100
Post by: pnegyesi on July 15, 2010, 10:53:11 PM
You have to go more eastwards in Continental Europe
Title: Re: PN #100
Post by: Ray B. on July 16, 2010, 03:00:52 AM
From your own country?
Title: Re: PN #100
Post by: pnegyesi on July 16, 2010, 05:29:10 AM
Yes, I made an exception to my own rules. She was a Hungarian actress who was quite famous here in the 1920s and 1930s and who was able to continue acting after the 2nd World War and appeared in many movies up until her death.
Title: Re: PN #100
Post by: Ray B. on July 16, 2010, 06:38:17 AM
I have several candidates. Let's start with Tolnay Klari (although I don't suppose she began to act in the 1920's).
Title: Re: PN #100
Post by: pnegyesi on July 16, 2010, 08:05:58 AM
Not her, this lady who's the subject of our puzzle was born almost 30 years earlier (big clue methinks)
Title: Re: PN #100
Post by: Otto Puzzell on July 16, 2010, 08:57:12 AM
SÁRI PETRÁSS?
Title: Re: PN #100
Post by: pnegyesi on July 16, 2010, 09:17:37 AM
Sári Petráss was also a driver and a contemporary of the puzzle actress, but she died in a car accident in the 1930s. So it's not her.
Title: Re: PN #100
Post by: Ray B. on July 16, 2010, 09:19:00 AM
Lilly Berky (or Berky Lilly, or Lili Berki...)
Title: Re: PN #100
Post by: pnegyesi on July 16, 2010, 09:21:57 AM
Not her
Title: Re: PN #100
Post by: Ray B. on July 16, 2010, 09:31:21 AM
Man, I'm discovering a whole new world...
Title: Re: PN #100
Post by: pnegyesi on July 16, 2010, 09:58:02 AM
well, this puzzle will tell you a few things about Hungarian motoring in the 1920s
Title: Re: PN #100
Post by: guido66 on July 20, 2010, 05:54:08 PM
Lóth Ila?
Title: Re: PN #100
Post by: pnegyesi on July 21, 2010, 12:24:52 AM
No, not her
Title: Re: PN #100
Post by: guido66 on July 21, 2010, 03:05:26 PM
Bayor Gizi?
Title: Re: PN #100
Post by: pnegyesi on July 21, 2010, 03:09:27 PM
No, though Gizi Bajor was a legend, she was never reknown for her driving skills
Title: Re: PN #100
Post by: pnegyesi on July 25, 2010, 12:08:49 AM
try to think of a Hungarian county....
Title: Re: PN #100
Post by: guido66 on July 25, 2010, 03:28:45 AM
Still part of present day Hungary?
Title: Re: PN #100
Post by: pnegyesi on July 25, 2010, 03:32:48 AM
Yes, very much so
Title: Re: PN #100
Post by: pnegyesi on August 05, 2010, 01:19:50 AM
Should this be opened to the wider public?
Title: Re: PN #100
Post by: ImpishGrin on August 05, 2010, 05:27:50 AM
Maria Simonyi maybe?
Title: Re: PN #100
Post by: pnegyesi on August 05, 2010, 08:35:09 AM
Do you know a Hungarian county, named Simony or Simonyi :)? No, it's not her
Title: Re: PN #100
Post by: ImpishGrin on August 05, 2010, 08:48:26 AM
No, but I also don't know any Hungarian actress named liked one of the counties :P
Title: Re: PN #100
Post by: guido66 on August 05, 2010, 03:24:46 PM
Let's start with the one most difficult to search for: Pest?
Title: Re: PN #100
Post by: pnegyesi on August 06, 2010, 12:54:11 AM
No, to the south-west
Title: Re: PN #100
Post by: ImpishGrin on August 06, 2010, 04:02:22 AM
After further research I've found quite a few hungarioan actresses that share their name with a county, but unfortunately none of them was born in the XIX century :(
Title: Re: PN #100
Post by: guido66 on August 07, 2010, 06:08:05 AM
Somogy?
Title: Re: PN #100
Post by: pnegyesi on August 07, 2010, 06:28:18 AM
Now, we're getting somewhere :) This is almost her last name
Title: Re: PN #100
Post by: guido66 on August 07, 2010, 06:49:20 AM
Somogyi Nusi, Anna  ;) Now for the car...
Title: Re: PN #100
Post by: guido66 on August 07, 2010, 06:55:18 AM
She raced a Alfa Romeo at Svábhegy/Schwabenberg in 1924
Title: Re: PN #100
Post by: pnegyesi on August 07, 2010, 07:59:01 AM
Yes, that's her! So far two points for you and you also got a lock on this for 24 hours to find two other brands.

Anna (nicknamed Nusi) Somogyi was quite a daredevil driver as you can see on this picture at the 1924 Schwabenberg race. Her car did not have a proper body, but she managed to score a class victory...
Title: Re: PN #100
Post by: guido66 on August 07, 2010, 09:09:54 AM
In 1925 she drove a Citroën and in 1927 a Rover
Title: Re: PN #100
Post by: Ray B. on August 07, 2010, 10:58:36 AM
It seems that Guido left the rest of us no chance.
But I found a nice picture of the lady with a funny hat.
Title: Re: PN #100
Post by: pnegyesi on August 07, 2010, 11:32:52 AM
Unfortunately the winner takes it all :)

Anna (Nusi) Somogyi (1884-1963) was one of the few Hungarian actresses who had a succesful career before and after the 2nd World War. She played in operettas and in many movies. She had a versatile talent. And she was a keen motoring driver. When Ernő Steinitz obtained the rights to distribute Alfa Romeo in Hungary, she became a brand ambassador in 1924. Later she did the same for Citroen.
But she also drove Rover and other cars as well.

Guido66 - you just earned yourself four points!
Title: Re: Solved: PN #100 -- Anna (Nusi) Somogyi and her cars, Alfa Romeo, Citroen and Rover
Post by: Ray B. on August 07, 2010, 11:38:46 AM
Thanks for taking us out of Hollywood for once, pnegyesi.

My search was quit complicated by the fact (which I discovered) then in Hungarian it seems to be like in Japanese: you never know what comes first, name or surname!
Title: Re: Solved: PN #100 -- Anna (Nusi) Somogyi and her cars, Alfa Romeo, Citroen and Rover
Post by: pnegyesi on August 07, 2010, 12:19:50 PM
Yes, that's true. Both Hungarian and Japanese names are in reverse order, compared to British naming standards.
Négyesi Pál - that is how my name is written in Hungarian. Pal Negyesi is the form I use in non-Hungarian environment.

Glad you liked this puzzle.
Title: Re: Solved: PN #100 -- Anna (Nusi) Somogyi and her cars, Alfa Romeo, Citroen and Rover
Post by: guido66 on August 07, 2010, 01:39:01 PM
 ;D I found a really informative site on pre WW2 Hungarian racing  ;)

Belgian people also tend to place the surname before the first name.
Title: Re: Solved: PN #100 -- Anna (Nusi) Somogyi and her cars, Alfa Romeo, Citroen and Rover
Post by: ImpishGrin on August 08, 2010, 03:11:42 PM
How come she doesn't have an article in the Hungarian wikipedia??
Title: Re: Solved: PN #100 -- Anna (Nusi) Somogyi and her cars, Alfa Romeo, Citroen and Rover
Post by: pnegyesi on August 08, 2010, 03:50:40 PM
I don't know actually