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Puzzles, Games and Name That Car => Solved AutoPuzzles => 2010 => Topic started by: pnegyesi on July 25, 2010, 05:29:08 AM
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What's this? Who built it? When? What was its donor? A point is on offer for a complete answer.
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Experts?
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Looks like a Veritas, but probably isn't?
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It is not a Veritas
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Made in Western Europe?
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just so slightly towards Central Europe
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Interesting. Slightly central Europa would make me thing The GDR
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it was made in a German-speaking country...
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Austria ?
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Yes
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Holbein?
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Nope
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Austro-Tatra?
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Nope
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Professionals?
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AFM?
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Nope, AFM wasn't Austrian
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Those look like Fiat 500 wheels so perhaps it was based on that.
Although Steyr had a Fiat licence post-war, I doubt they had one before as their 50 was in the same part of the market, so I can't say who might have made this.
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Yes, the donor was a pre-war Fiat Topolino
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Aargh!!
I think I know the source (I've finally purchased this little brochure), but I don't have it here with me :-\
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You don't know the source :) The picture is not from that brochure, but it is featured in that brochure...
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It is featured there as Pracak-Suller Topolino Rennwagen, but it is clearly a nominal name, as with many old racing cars.
Allan has already said it is based on a Topolino. Built by J.Pracak in 1949, body by Oskar Suller.
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Correct. My photo is from Austro-Motor. Based on a Topolino "Testadoro" 570 cc. 400 kg.
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I think it was 570cc, not 5700 ;)
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Who knows this car?
1 point for the right basis car (easy) and the correct name I want to hear (not so easy)...
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Up one step!
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No ideas?
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German ? Vw Based ? Helmut Hauber ?
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No, no and no... :'(
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German ? Vw Based ? Helmut Hauber ?
Don't forget - only one question allowed at a time...
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Well, It´s been three different topics, so I think the questions were O.K.
If he´d asked for instance:
"Salmson, Pipe or Lambert?" I wouldn´t have accepted it.
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Well, It´s been three different topics, so I think the questions were O.K.
If he´d asked for instance:
"Salmson, Pipe or Lambert?" I wouldn´t have accepted it.
It's your puzzle!
One answer should lead to another question though..
e.g. "German?" "Yes" "VW then?" etc.
Or "German?" "No" "French then?" etc.
Though I do appreciate that on this occasion the fact the car is not German negated the other two questions anyway..
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To be honest, I´m a bit impatient and always want my puzzles to be solved, really. ;)
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Fiat 'Topolino' based Siata
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The basis car was a Fiat!
I do not know if it was Topolino, but I´m sure it did not use the engine of a Topolino.
And it is not a Siata.
This was not enough correct information to lock it for you, sorry.
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To make it easier, I´ll show you a full front view:
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Too hard for the experts...
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From one of the 'known' etceterini marques?
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The driver/constructor and the racing equipe are not italian.
I think the body isn´t from Italy, too.
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Same question I asked a coupla minutes ago: another Austrian one-off special?
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Yes, but I think, only the chassis is italian, the body has been built in Austria.
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Prasak-Muller Topolino Spezial :P
I thought we've had it already before, but search shows nothing...
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Must be a fantastic book where all these cars can be found.
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It is not bad indeed, but it is not complete :)
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Yes, it´s the 550ccm Prazak-Topolino race car!
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So, Prazak indeed. The book listed it as Prasak, but starting lists also say Prazak.
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I couldn't find a date for this car...matter of face, I couldn't find anything at all about it. Do you have an approximate date of manufacture or racing?
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I´ve found photo references from 1950-1954.
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There was a newspaper note in a book I have said to be dated October 1949, so I think it could have been first raced in 1950.
Also, my bad, previously I've known it as Pracak-Suller, not Prasak-Mueller :P
And here it is, I knew I've seen it here before: http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=13294.0 (http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=13294.0)
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This is the 550ccm PRAZAK-Fiat-Topolino.
I did not find it, because of the different name, of course.
So I´ve made it new puzzle recently:
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=20791
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My thanks to both of you for the date info.
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I have modified the header so now we can merge the two puzzles
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Merged. But was is the definite name?
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I don´t know if it ever had a name, but a very fine book calls it the "Prazak Fiat Topolino Special".
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OK.
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And it´s not mentioning the "Müller" name.