(http://autopuzzles.com/RayB.stuff/wdyci400.jpg)
A kind of bigfoot streamliner for my number 400.
Do you know what its is? Please respond below and let us know the make and model of the car posted here.
I only have a name and some details about it, but little certainty. So this is a 2 points puzzle.
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Experts?
I found a few late 1930 home-built "teardrop" specials, built in the USA. Is this one of them?
You tell me (read my post more carefully)
Pros?
Is it a McQuay Norris?
I'm going with the 1932 Hill Arrow Plane...
Don't you think it would have been easy to google both those names and check that it's neither of those?
Those wheels, tires, its size suggest this: "Hill Auto Body went on to build the Arrow Plane – inspired McQuay Norris streamliners, the Grove Laboratory land yacht and, in 1936, a gigantic streamliner for Bromo Seltzer on a bus chassis. "
Does anyone got a photo on the "gigantic streamliner"?
I don't. This is to small to be the "gigantic streamliner" but there is a tire company involved (its name appears on the photo, but I masked it).
What about putting this one to be nursed in the Pros secret garden?
Can it be the Bremac from Sidney, Ohio, 1932?
Hard to tell from such a drawing. It's not the name i have (but my source gives no details at all).
The closest car I could come up with was the 1934 McQuay-Norris streamliner, which although similar, is not identical:
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It''s not the McQuay Norris.
Is there a Hoppe or a Streut mentioned related to this car?
Not as I know.
But there is a "Riley" (not the british make).
Samuel Eliot built a serie of 3 rear-engined sedans, called Crickets....#3 of 1937 is quite known, could it be one of the other two? They were made in Boston and Holliston, Massachusetts during the 30s.
I honestly don't know. Except that it's not the name I have. As this seems rather hard, I am posting the untouched picture of the car.
Thank you.
Isn't that sign saying: "General Streamline Jumbo"?
I'm looking into the Standard Catalog.
Nothing unger: Major - General - Jumbo - Riley.
I'll look for Baltimora based companies, but it will take some time.
none of the 26 makers from Baltimora can be responsable for this...
none of the 11 makers from Akron Ohio, where the General Tire & Rubber Co was based, either
I've found this picture elsewhere, tagged as the Libby Body Riley Head car
A Bingo for Otto!
Libby is also the name I have, but nothing else. Yet I have it from the files of a very well-known specialist so I accept it. As for "Riley Head" a quick check showed me that they appear to be some improved cylinder heads (like Ardun) used with Ford flatheads.
Now, in our endless quest for those 1930's streamliners, if anyone can bring some more and important information about this one, there might be another point to take.
Tear Drop car, built by Libby Body Works of Kansas City, Missouri. The Ford Model A engine was in the rear and had Riley two-port head.
Built for the Young Advertising Co. All aluminum body. Model A Ford steering, axles. Designed by "Miehl".
There are Pierce Arrow headlights on the fenders that turned with the wheels,
Wow! That car was an almost complete mystery, in in a few hours we have a galore of details. I may have been a little too generous, but I have to give you a point each or eat my hat.
But it's over now.
The car and its whole story just made it to the Hemmings blog.
With the same picture as the unretouched one I've posted, but with much better quality.
Do I need to add the link?
They have a search engine as well, so, I think you needn't
Not a mention to AP..but this article show up after Ray posted it...just coincidence?
I've posted a comment giving the link to Autopuzzles, but it's not been validated yet.
I think that I had found the picture in a website probably related to Geoff Hacker (if not managed by himself). We've featured in Autopuzzles many cars or streamliners that he found, sometimes bought and restored. We may have done it did at times before him, but most of the time he came first.
So it's time that we pay our respects to the man. More on him on the Hemmings blog.
My curiosity was genuine...some time AP is mentioned so there is no doubt that they will do if it was the case. I found it strange that it happened just few days later.
I like that site too and G. Hacker is a goldmine of info. ;)
Ray, Paul, and Gang...
Thanks for the kind words and common interest in these unusual cars. I've loved teardrop cars since I was growing up in the 1960's. My parents were going to school at SIU in Southern Illinois, and were students of Bucky Fuller - who told me as a kid about his Dymaxion. Talk about being schooled by the right person! But I was only 6 so it doesn't count.
Since I'm new to this group, I'm not sure if I violate the rules but here's a link to another streamliner I recently found:
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Hope you enjoy....
Geoff Hacker
Tampa, Floriida
Geoff, the only rule that you broke is the "links forbidden rule ". Like the journalists somehow, the members are required not to reveal their sources. How could they keep finding good puzzles if everyone could find where. Let them find these by themselves if they can.
But we knew your story with this one too: http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=7767.0 and are proud to count you as an Autopuzzler.
Hi Geoff!
welcome aboard!
We love streamliners too: http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=7705.0 ;)
The Riley 2-port head was an aftermarket conversion to an F-head setup for Ford Model A and B 4-banger motors. They had 2 overhead intake valves and 1 exhaust valve (in the block) per cylinder. They were arguably the most cost-effective head conversions for Model As. Others made more power, but the Riley was very reliable and less costly than its competitors such as HAL and Frontenac. Riley also produced a 4-port head, but it wasn't as common as the 2-port.
Quote from: RayTheRat on November 10, 2012, 04:04:09 PM
The Riley 2-port head was an aftermarket conversion to an F-head setup for Ford Model A and B 4-banger motors. They had 2 overhead intake valves and 1 exhaust valve (in the block) per cylinder. They were arguably the most cost-effective head conversions for Model As. Others made more power, but the Riley was very reliable and less costly than its competitors such as HAL and Frontenac. Riley also produced a 4-port head, but it wasn't as common as the 2-port.
The Riley 2-Port was one of our very first puzzles :)
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=300.0
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on November 11, 2012, 03:35:16 AM
Quote from: RayTheRat on November 10, 2012, 04:04:09 PM
The Riley 2-port head was an aftermarket conversion to an F-head setup for Ford Model A and B 4-banger motors. They had 2 overhead intake valves and 1 exhaust valve (in the block) per cylinder. They were arguably the most cost-effective head conversions for Model As. Others made more power, but the Riley was very reliable and less costly than its competitors such as HAL and Frontenac. Riley also produced a 4-port head, but it wasn't as common as the 2-port.
The Riley 2-Port was one of our very first puzzles :)
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=300.0
Yep. That's a 2-port. For reference, it's most likely in a 30-31 Model A, going by the grill shell.
RtR