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barrett's #147 - Solved - MAP diesel at Montlhéry, 1949
« on: March 07, 2011, 04:18:49 PM »
These chaps all look happy. But do you know why? And can you name the gentleman in the car, and the car he's driving? All that information will be rewarded with a point
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Re: barrett's #147
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2011, 12:57:26 PM »
Pros? Experts? Rookies? Anyone?
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Re: barrett's #147
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2011, 01:38:55 PM »
Picture taken in Brooklands, although the sun shines?  :D
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Re: barrett's #147
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2011, 01:40:24 PM »
Looks more like Monza to me!
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Re: barrett's #147
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2011, 01:44:04 PM »
Neither Monza nor Brooklands
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Re: barrett's #147
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2011, 01:50:33 PM »
Avus?
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Re: barrett's #147
« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2011, 01:51:48 PM »
Montlhéry?
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Re: barrett's #147
« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2011, 01:53:14 PM »
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Re: barrett's #147
« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2011, 01:56:56 PM »
MAP Diesel. 1949.
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Re: barrett's #147
« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2011, 02:01:12 PM »
Think the guy is Fernand Lacour
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Re: barrett's #147
« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2011, 02:11:21 PM »
He broke several Diesel speed records on February 5th 1949 over 50km, 50miles, 100km, 100miles and 200km
At the 31st May 1949 he broke the records over long distances (200miles, 500km, 500miles, 1000km,1000miles and 2000km) and over time limits of 3 hours 6 hours and 12 hours with an average speed of 175,539km/h, respectively 180,851km/h.
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Re: barrett's #147
« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2011, 02:23:53 PM »
Very well done!
It is indeed the MAP diesel after a record breaking run at Montlhéry. The engine was a 4-cylinder, 5-litre two-stroke diesel producing 120bhp. I believe the chassis started life as the 1937 V-12 Delage!
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Re: barrett's #147
« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2011, 02:25:41 PM »
Wendax assisted..
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Re: barrett's #147
« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2011, 02:42:04 PM »
Quote from: Allemano on March 18, 2011, 02:25:41 PM
Wendax assisted..

It was an honour for me  ;)
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Re: barrett's #147
« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2019, 12:56:39 PM »
Quote from: barrett on March 18, 2011, 02:23:53 PM
Very well done!
It is indeed the MAP diesel after a record breaking run at Montlhéry. The engine was a 4-cylinder, 5-litre two-stroke diesel producing 120bhp. I believe the chassis started life as the 1937 V-12 Delage!

According to a website I just found, it was a Delahaye. Not that it matters much!
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I must be right - that's what it says on Wikipedia

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Re: barrett's #147 - Solved - MAP diesel at Montlhéry, 1949
« Reply #15 on: June 14, 2019, 02:52:56 PM »
According to René Bellu's Toutes les voitures francaises 1950 it was "construite sur un ancien chassis fabriqué chez Delahaye", while in his Toutes les voitures francaises 1949 he says "La carrosserie légère s'appuie sur le châssis d'une ancienne Delage-Delahaye". And in his book Les voitures francaises des années 50 he tells us "Le châssis de la M.A.P. provenait d'une Delahaye 4,5 l de course."
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Re: barrett's #147 - Solved - MAP diesel at Montlhéry, 1949
« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2021, 11:20:19 AM »
It seems this record car had the bigger 4-cylinder 2-stroke M.A.P. opposed piston Diesel engine as on the photo below.
And the side view of this fascinating record car clearly shows its Delahaye race car chassis:
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