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Barrett's #182 - Solved - Delahaye 135M by Hebmüller
« on: July 16, 2011, 08:08:36 AM »
What is this car, who built the bodywork and when?

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Re: Barrett's #182 - Solved - Delahaye 135M by Hebmüller
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2011, 08:34:40 AM »
 :o
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Re: Barrett's #182 - Solved - Delahaye 135M by Hebmüller
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2011, 07:37:32 AM »
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Re: Barrett's #182 - Solved - Delahaye 135M by Hebmüller
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2011, 03:32:03 PM »
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Re: Barrett's #182 - Solved - Delahaye 135M by Hebmüller
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2011, 03:46:09 PM »
Delahaye 135 M 1935, body by Karosserie Hebmüller, 1952.

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Re: Barrett's #182 - Solved - Delahaye 135M by Hebmüller
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2011, 03:53:49 PM »
Too many puzzlers from Germany on board. No chance to get the (relatively) easy ones! ;D

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Re: Barrett's #182 - Solved - Delahaye 135M by Hebmüller
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2011, 04:00:24 PM »
Well done Siata1, that's correct

bad luck Allemano!

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Re: Barrett's #182 - Solved - Delahaye 135M by Hebmüller
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2011, 04:00:36 PM »
It is nowadays a long way to the Professional status, you need to pick any chance.

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Re: Barrett's #182 - Solved - Delahaye 135M by Hebmüller
« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2011, 04:04:29 PM »
According to my source it is a Delahaye 135 MS. It was originally built (chassis number 46810) as a „Spécial de Course“ racecar for Lucy and Laury Schell who started at Le Mans in 1936. The Hebmüller body was built in 1952 for a Monsieur Grivilet.

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Re: Barrett's #182 - Solved - Delahaye 135M by Hebmüller
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2011, 04:18:58 PM »
The Hebmüller book says it's apparently a 135 M, but they're not absolutely sure about it. I'll add a back view and interior shots + specifications soon.


bad luck Allemano!
No problem barrett, I got used to it.  ;)

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Re: Barrett's #182 - Solved - Delahaye 135M by Hebmüller
« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2011, 04:27:10 PM »
I know the Hebmüller book.  ;)
The French Club Delahaye has collected a few pictures that show the car in several stages of its life, the last ones showing the car when it was for sale in 2008:

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Re: Barrett's #182 - Solved - Delahaye 135M by Hebmüller
« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2011, 04:33:31 PM »
I know the Hebmüller book.  ;)
Maybe you do, but probably not all of our gentle members and visitors. ;)

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Re: Barrett's #182 - Solved - Delahaye 135M by Hebmüller
« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2011, 04:36:48 PM »
Sorry, what I meant was that I know that it is called a 135M in the Hebmüller book, but I tend to trust the Club Delahaye a little bit more in this particular matter.

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Re: Barrett's #182 - Solved - Delahaye 135M by Hebmüller
« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2011, 04:41:24 PM »
but I tend to trust the Club Delahaye a little bit more in this particular matter.
I agree on that.

I think it wasn't the best idea to change the color of the car to pale grey. The rather strange proportions of that vehicle appear now even more unbalanced.

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Re: Barrett's #182 - Solved - Delahaye 135M by Hebmüller
« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2011, 07:38:14 PM »
Thanks for posting the extra info and pictures gents!

I agree that is doesn't look so good in the pale colour but it was never much of a looker anyway... I'm happy that it still survives in this configuration though (or did, a lot can happen in 3 years)

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Solved: gte4289_73 -- 1936 Delahaye 135 M rebodied by Hebmüller circa 1951-53
« Reply #15 on: December 11, 2018, 01:32:10 PM »
Identify this car and coachbuilder for a point:
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Re: gte4289_73
« Reply #16 on: December 11, 2018, 01:35:38 PM »
Adjusted the lighting a bit to make it easier to see:

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Re: gte4289_73
« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2018, 12:32:59 PM »
Veritas Nürburgring Coupe

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Re: gte4289_73
« Reply #18 on: December 18, 2018, 05:17:51 PM »
Veritas Nürburgring Coupe
I can see the resemblance, but that's not it.

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Re: gte4289_73
« Reply #19 on: December 21, 2018, 10:14:14 AM »
Davis?

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Re: gte4289_73
« Reply #20 on: December 21, 2018, 10:32:45 AM »

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Re: gte4289_73
« Reply #21 on: December 21, 2018, 11:53:26 AM »
Is there a reason why front cannot be seen

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Re: gte4289_73
« Reply #22 on: December 21, 2018, 12:38:46 PM »
Is there a reason why front cannot be seen
Just the way the image was cropped. Here's the missing front corner:

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Re: gte4289_73
« Reply #23 on: December 22, 2018, 10:46:06 AM »
So nothing serious happend- looks like one of the more restraint attempts from Mister Espenlaub

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Re: gte4289_73
« Reply #24 on: December 22, 2018, 01:55:51 PM »
So nothing serious happend- looks like one of the more restraint attempts from Mister Espenlaub
No connection to Espenlaub